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No offence taken nun, but no one is questioning the value of the information that can be found here.

Some of the rabble :p: has spoken and for the most part the old guard response has been predictably defensive and has missed the point.

What the hell, I'm only here for the free beer anyway.
 
There's no reason to be overly rude of course, nor personally abuse people when trying to make a point. Joe has worked hard to develop a ASF community of friendly likeminded people to share their thoughts and develop stock trading and investing skills and knowledge. I know I'd be a lot poorer for not having ASF. What I don't like about stock market forums, and something that occasionally happens here, is when shonky 2 bit snake oil salesman get annoyed when their product or service is justifiably hung out in the wind for crucifixion. If you're selling ****, then take it.
 
bowman said:
Can I be in the club now? :)
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thats the bit i dont get ..............


im in no ones club here in fact i doubt i,d be welcome in too many here :D

i dont think anyones in anyones club if there is a club at all .....

but hey happy to start one and we can go on picnics and stuff
 
nunthewiser said:
thats the bit i dont get ..............


im in no ones club here in fact i doubt i,d be welcome in too many here :D

i dont think anyones in anyones club if there is a club at all .....

but hey happy to start one and we can go on picnics and stuff
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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
Groucho Marx
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Agree mate

gg
 

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Joe Blow said:
It was removed because it was a posted solely as an attack on a particular ASF member and I'm not prepared to allow such threads.

The topic itself can be open for discussion but as soon as it devolves into personal attacks it will be closed or deleted.
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I understand and agree, and would like to bring the issue to the forefront.
 
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trainspotter said:
Welcome to ASF Scalpme. The guy you are referring to is as good as he says he is ... period. Yes there is an "elder statesman" status in here and probably rightly so. There tends to be a lot of bum sniffers who come in here and reckon they can eat razorblades and excrete cucumbers within their first few posts. OR they just are looking for a fast buck and want everything given to them on a platter. There is a search function on here and my advice is to use it as much as possible. It is the nature of the beast around here, apply Darwins theory to everything you read, "survival of the fittest" is general rule of thumb. Oh yeah .... and a big pinch of salt as well as great big hairy clanking balls.

Once again Scalpme .... welcome aboard. It is what it is. ;)
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Of course, when the shoe fits it should be worn, but if you notice how some members often act or react really does no justice especially if the intent is to learn, not demoralize. I do agree with you.
 
nunthewiser said:
yes i agree with the OP . i too have been picked on , abused , name called and altogether had my posts trashed

this has led me to become an alcoholic and a substance abuser

i am currently undergoing counselling from being picked on via the internet :rolleyes:

in the future i endeavour to become a great poster also, and strive to gain the respect of a bunch of anomonous internet posters..........

i thank them all :D
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alcoholic = sniffs aftershave;
substance abuser = spreads peanut butter too thickly on his toast; and
undergoing counselling via the internet = watches reruns of "Dr Phil".


If this forum is a club does that mean we get drinks at club prices? If so i'm in.
 
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trainspotter said:
Welcome to ASF Scalpme. The guy you are referring to is as good as he says he is ... period. Yes there is an "elder statesman" status in here and probably rightly so. There tends to be a lot of bum sniffers who come in here and reckon they can eat razorblades and excrete cucumbers within their first few posts. OR they just are looking for a fast buck and want everything given to them on a platter. There is a search function on here and my advice is to use it as much as possible. It is the nature of the beast around here, apply Darwins theory to everything you read, "survival of the fittest" is general rule of thumb. Oh yeah .... and a big pinch of salt as well as great big hairy clanking balls.

Once again Scalpme .... welcome aboard. It is what it is. ;)
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This is a good post. Experience comes from learning from your mistakes, watching, listening and learning. Not from popping up with fancy unproven theories.
 
darkside said:
I must admit , i have never seen this type of action by high ranking members on this site, i have seen members bring people into line over posts that have left a lot to be desired.
I have seen members point out obvious flaws in posts that may have been handled beter , but at the end of the day this is a Stock Forum not the "fluffy bunny warm and fuzzy feel good forum" if you have concerns about the way your posts are adressed maybe this isn't the site for you.

And as a sidenote, Professor Frink cracks me up !!!
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Its not the way my posts have been addressed, this issue is why do some members behave in such a manner? Big boys we all are, but a Little humility goes a long way. Trading is tough business, yes, but often more than not by the 2nd, or 3rd post its automatically taken to the next level. And I it doesn't only occur here. it occurs throughout the internet world. And its just getting worse.
 
Scalpme said:
And its just getting worse.
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The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
And the price of politeness.
And the price of a spam-free forum.
And the price of freedom from dodgy trading 'education'/'software'/'live rooms'/'once-in-a-lifetime investment opportunities'.
 
nomore4s said:
lol, you're right Scalpme, maybe experienced traders on this site should just sit back and let the newbies get ripped off by 2-bit conmen selling cr@p trading systems?;)

If new traders can't handle being told the realities of trading, how are they going to cope when they actually have to deal with those problems?

I also think that most newbies to this site would say they have found alot of good info and helpful advice from the more experienced posters. I know I got plenty of help when I was finding my way in the world of trading and in fact I still learn plenty from the info posted here.
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The case for helping the newbies not get ripped off is a good thing. Without a doubt someone asks for an opinion, and one is given.

But

So many times when a newbie post a decent question or a common question what often occurs is a direct Slam to his question or his integrity. then all the brothers chime in like a fraternity group. egging each other on to top the next. I don't' make it up, its real. and instead of the high ranking members taking the issue seriously, they seem to love the drama.
 
Scalpme said:
So many times when a newbie post a decent question or a common question what often occurs is a direct Slam to his question or his integrity. then all the brothers chime in like a fraternity group. egging each other on to top the next. I don't' make it up, its real. and instead of the high ranking members taking the issue seriously, they seem to love the drama.
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Example?
 
wtang89 said:
Trading is a zero sums game, it is as some of the users have posted a 'survival of the fittest game', toughen up mate. A classic example of the way the industry is can be found in James Kramer's book (confessions of a street addict). It is a dog eat dog's world, either learn to deal with it or get out while you are still reasonably intact. All the best.
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It is a dog eat dog world, that I agree.
But because it is, it doesn't make it right,
 
Timmy said:
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
And the price of politeness.
And the price of a spam-free forum.
And the price of freedom from dodgy trading 'education'/'software'/'live rooms'/'once-in-a-lifetime investment opportunities'.
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:):)

FWIW, I think this forum has the least incidence of what OP is complaining of.

Those that cop a spray, generally deserve it.
 
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