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Scalpme

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let me rephrase the thread question since my previous post was deleted.
why do some high ranking members on this forum continually look down on others? New traders are optimistic about trading, but the drama that comes with posting leaves users disgusted.

any thoughts on having humility when answering posts? especially from those members with high rankings. This should be a place used to learn, instead the egos come alive.
 
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Scalpme said:
any thoughts on having humility when answering posts?
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No.

The owner of the site has a sideline gig as a trading psychologist. Having a constant flow of shattered traders crying about how they get treated on internet forums is good for business.

He also runs a bottle shop and prescribes shots of vodka to help new traders calm down after they have been bashed by both the market and the internet bullies.
 
Scalpme said:
let me rephrase the thread question since my previous post was deleted.
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It was removed because it was a posted solely as an attack on a particular ASF member and I'm not prepared to allow such threads.

The topic itself can be open for discussion but as soon as it devolves into personal attacks it will be closed or deleted.
 
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Welcome to ASF Scalpme. The guy you are referring to is as good as he says he is ... period. Yes there is an "elder statesman" status in here and probably rightly so. There tends to be a lot of bum sniffers who come in here and reckon they can eat razorblades and excrete cucumbers within their first few posts. OR they just are looking for a fast buck and want everything given to them on a platter. There is a search function on here and my advice is to use it as much as possible. It is the nature of the beast around here, apply Darwins theory to everything you read, "survival of the fittest" is general rule of thumb. Oh yeah .... and a big pinch of salt as well as great big hairy clanking balls.

Once again Scalpme .... welcome aboard. It is what it is.
 
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Crack me up Professor

Scalpme its simply a test of your psychology remember its just writing on a screen nothing more..............
 
Hi Scalpme,

I don't agree with you there about new traders getting attacked by "high ranking members", the only time i've seen such occurrences is when new posters come along trying to flog some dodgy trading system, in any case if you can't handle a little criticism how are you going to handle a beating by the market.?
 
Its all water off a ducks back. I have rolled along in considerable ignorance and have been chopped off at the sox many times and it has been good for me. I am aware that many top dogs PM each other and refer to me as explode. When I was at school I was called banana and teased all the way, character building.

Love it all, hang in there and you will learn a great deal. And my Father's great one was, "the only way is the hard way" which means, work work work.

Try to keep your trading/investing approach safe and simple. (easier said than done I know) My way is fundamentals first and then technical to know when to buy, how to hold it together and above all when to get out.

And the great one, "when in doubt, stay away or get out"
 

I must admit , i have never seen this type of action by high ranking members on this site, i have seen members bring people into line over posts that have left a lot to be desired.
I have seen members point out obvious flaws in posts that may have been handled beter , but at the end of the day this is a Stock Forum not the "fluffy bunny warm and fuzzy feel good forum" if you have concerns about the way your posts are adressed maybe this isn't the site for you.

And as a sidenote, Professor Frink cracks me up !!!
 
yes i agree with the OP . i too have been picked on , abused , name called and altogether had my posts trashed

this has led me to become an alcoholic and a substance abuser

i am currently undergoing counselling from being picked on via the internet

in the future i endeavour to become a great poster also, and strive to gain the respect of a bunch of anomonous internet posters..........

i thank them all
 
And clearly all that traumatic abuse drove you to seek refuge in the nunnery, Nun. Hope one day your shattered self may recover.

I agree with Darkside that maybe some responses wouldn't qualify for a place in the diplomatic service, but at the same time, some of the new enquiries are breathtaking in their expectation of "give me that foolproof method for millions in one easy lesson".

Guess it usually goes both ways. Most sensible, polite questions receive a reasonable response as far as I can tell.
 
If you aren't resilient enough to over come some insignificant anonymous posters on the internet, you have NO chance making consistent money in the markets.


Here, have some cement
 
Can't say I have ever seen anything that sounds like this, not that didn't deserve it anyway, like not using the search function to find something that has 454827923 threads already.

The people I have had stuff to do with on here have been super helpful, wouldn't be where I am today if I hadn't talked to them.
 

lol, you're right Scalpme, maybe experienced traders on this site should just sit back and let the newbies get ripped off by 2-bit conmen selling cr@p trading systems?

If new traders can't handle being told the realities of trading, how are they going to cope when they actually have to deal with those problems?

I also think that most newbies to this site would say they have found alot of good info and helpful advice from the more experienced posters. I know I got plenty of help when I was finding my way in the world of trading and in fact I still learn plenty from the info posted here.
 

- very funny nun

Cheers
 
Trading is a zero sums game, it is as some of the users have posted a 'survival of the fittest game', toughen up mate. A classic example of the way the industry is can be found in James Kramer's book (confessions of a street addict). It is a dog eat dog's world, either learn to deal with it or get out while you are still reasonably intact. All the best.
 
I agree with the original post. Sooooooooooo many posts could be delivered in a more supportive way than what a lot are.
 
Yeah, I've seen it happen in a fair few posts where long time members (>500 posts) have just been arrogant, dismissive and altogether unhelpful, more invested (ha) in making a zany one liner explaining that the newbie should leave rather than giving the requested advice. Why bother to post if you're not going to help?

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Thought I'd just add though, that for the last month I haven't seen any of the described which I'd have to attribute to out lovely moderator staff as it seemed a bit rampant previously.
 
Ardyne said:
I agree with the original post. Sooooooooooo many posts could be delivered in a more supportive way than what a lot are.
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They probably could - but you can understand how some lose patience. So many dishonest people and companies looking to take advantage of newbies. So, honesty, however blunt, is a refreshing change.

The fact is, there are NO shortcuts - better to learn that lesson from someone here than after being down $10,000 to the likes of Win Traders, or Daytrade International selling you a short cut that only makes one person rich...
 

I have seen some pretty naieve, and occasionally even downright dumb first posts here which have been responded to quite dismissively.

Who cares you might ask, it's dog eat dog out there.

Well, the owners of the site for one. Driving away new members would seem to go against their interests.

If you are short on patience and feel the need to be blunt then perhaps it's best to say nothing and get on with your trading.

What lessons are learned when a new member posts once, never to be seen again?

Civility is not a sign of weakness.
 
stop sniffeling i say ...............

ask an honest question here , you get an honest answer.....may be straight to the point or viewed as arrgogent or of no actual trading value whatsoever BUT you are getting help from people that are not here to harm your trading .........

there are some VERY knowledgeable and experienced traders here and they donate there thoughtsfor NOTHING, ZIPPO,NADA......think of them how you wish.

grab a cup of harden the pluck up and enjoy any free goldmines that given you sooner or later here

or ya could go to hoc topper and other stock forums/chats and go buy something someone wants to sell you

love youse all


p.s no offense intended of course
 
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