European Elections and Politics in General

[noirua]

European elections: Dutch exit polls show progressive alliance just ahead of far right

Left and Green parties say nationalists can be beaten as Netherlands is first to vote in four-day election

www.theguardian.com

Dutch voters were the first to be called to the polls in the four-day democratic exercise where citizens in 27 EU member states are electing 720 representatives to the world’s only directly elected transnational parliament.

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What are the EU elections and why do they matter?

Some believe little will change even with a far-right surge, but others say ballot could be defining moment for bloc

www.theguardian.com

 

[investor13]

the so-called far tight leaders are just basically leaders that dont want to along with the global agenda of this clown world that is unfolding, basically have the opinion that men cant have babies.

in France, the Netherlands and Germany the farmers have been protesting for years due to the government trying to close them down and seize land and bankrupt them, since 2016 there has been almost an open border policy to central Europe of millions of African and middle eastern refugees, mostly, military-aged men that have formed ghettos and harass locals, knife, physical and sexual assaults are at record hight and the left wing governments dont care, best thing all countries could do is leave the EU


The incident initially took place in August 2021, when weeks before the country’s federal and state elections, Rotenburg AfD leader Marie-Therese Kaiser used government statistics to explain that Afghan immigrants have been disproportionately liable for committing sexual violence against women and young girls. Kaiser posted these statistics after it was revealed that Afghan migrant workers would be relocated to Hamburg.

German politician convicted for ‘inciting hatred’ after posting government statistics of sexual assault by Afghan migrants

“Simply naming numbers, dates and facts is to be declared a criminal offense, just because the establishment does not want to face reality.”

humanevents.com

 

[noirua]

Far Right ever closer to ruling France:

French far right obliterates Macron’s party in EU election

Macron dissolved France’s parliament following a crushing EU election defeat and called fresh legislative elections June 30.

www.politico.eu

“I am proud of what have we achieved, but I don’t feel like celebrating,” Glucksmann said in response to the early results. “Everywhere in Europe, we are witnessing a wave that is shaking our democracy.”

France: Le Pen's far-right party makes historic gains in EU elections

The National Rally party gained 31.5% of support in France according to exit polls on Sunday, becoming the first French party to receive more than 30% of votes in European elections since 1984. #EuropeNews

www.euronews.com

 

[wayneL]

Far Right ever closer to ruling France:

French far right obliterates Macron’s party in EU election

Macron dissolved France’s parliament following a crushing EU election defeat and called fresh legislative elections June 30.

www.politico.eu

“I am proud of what have we achieved, but I don’t feel like celebrating,” Glucksmann said in response to the early results. “Everywhere in Europe, we are witnessing a wave that is shaking our democracy.”

France: Le Pen's far-right party makes historic gains in EU elections

The National Rally party gained 31.5% of support in France according to exit polls on Sunday, becoming the first French party to receive more than 30% of votes in European elections since 1984. #EuropeNews

www.euronews.com

I don't really follow French politics and have no idea where Le Pen *actually sits on the political compass, but what makes Le Pen far right.

It this actually true, or is it because the left don't like her?

@qldfrog ?

 

[qldfrog]

I don't really follow French politics and have no idea where Le Pen *actually sits on the political compass, but what makes Le Pen far right.

It this actually true, or is it because the left don't like her?

@qldfrog ?

Ohh just that they have been fighting to stop migration and restore law and justice.
When Zelenski wants to push a million of people speaking the same language and same religion/culture out of his country, he is a hero;
When any European politician dare to ask the same with the millions of Muslim invaders, they are far right or nazi, it is well known.
Basically a french Melosi
BTW Italy not doing badly since she took power even against orchestrated EU pushes

 

[investor13]

I don't really follow French politics and have no idea where Le Pen *actually sits on the political compass, but what makes Le Pen far right.

It this actually true, or is it because the left don't like her?

@qldfrog ?

She is actually like a Pauline Hanson

 

[wayneL]

She is actually like a Pauline Hanson

Oh that's another one that gets branded as far right, but isn't actually.

 

[investor13]

Oh that's another one that gets branded as far right, but isn't actually.

if you state a man can't have a baby your far right now days

 

[wayneL]

if you state a man can have a baby your far right now days

 

[IFocus]

She is actually like a Pauline Hanson

Her father was even more out there but Marine has soften her position across the board as the world moved on and political reality kicked in similar to what's happening with Melosi.

Hanson is a total grifter but I wouldn't call Le Pen that however going by her polling plenty of Le Pen's views still remain on the fringes of French society.

 

[wayneL]

Her father was even more out there but Marine has soften her position across the board as the world moved on and political reality kicked in similar to what's happening with Melosi.

Hanson is a total grifter but I wouldn't call Le Pen that however going by her polling plenty of Le Pen's views still remain on the fringes of French society.

What policies would you consider fringe?

 

[wayneL]

Hanson is a total grifter

I know we're getting a little bit off topic here but I would say this:

I do not know PH personally nor am I a member of One Nation (I am a member of the Libertarian Party). But I am:
Friends with Malcolm Roberts and his family, via his daughter having been a client of mine when I was in Queensland.

Friends with the former WA state director and candidate for the legislative council in the upcoming Western Australian election.

Over the years we have also had Liberal Party family friends in both the state and Federal parliaments.

I can state categorically from my contact with these people that the One Nation people are far more genuine in their goodwill towards this country.

One may disagree or agree with their policy positions, but they are certainly not grifters in any sense of the word.

They are generally right of centre most certainly, but in no sense far right. In fact many of their policies are left of centre.

Just sick of idiots labeling everybody far right who aren't of the socialist/communist left.

 

[investor13]

Her father was even more out there but Marine has soften her position across the board as the world moved on and political reality kicked in similar to what's happening with Melosi.

Hanson is a total grifter but I wouldn't call Le Pen that however going by her polling plenty of Le Pen's views still remain on the fringes of French society.

time will tell how she leads France, i havent got my hopes up but after all the hype, evil then fizzel giorgia Meloni has become in Italy

 

[wayneL]

time will tell how she leads France, i havent got my hopes up but after all the hype, evil then fizzel giorgia Meloni has become in Italy

Maloni has certainly been subdued by... Well the political process is certainly one of both deals and blackmail.

Some here may recall that during my time in the UK I was a member of a political think tank. From there I was able to see the inner workings of politics... It is BS on so many different levels, especially on how power is attained and maintained.

It led me to be extremely disillusioned and cynical.

 

[sptrawler]

Oh dear, the strong swing right continues, hand wringing all around.

Far-right parties rattle traditional EU powers as humiliated Macron calls snap French election

Far-right parties have dealt stunning defeats to two of the bloc’s most important leaders: French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

www.theage.com.au

Brussels: Far-right parties rattled the traditional powers in the European Union and made major gains in parliamentary elections, dealing an especially humiliating defeat to French President Emmanuel Macron.
On a night where the 27-member bloc palpably shifted to the right, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni more than doubled her seats in the EU parliament. And even if the Alternative for Germany extreme right party was hounded by scandal involving candidates, it still rallied enough seats to sweep past the slumping Social Democrats of Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

 

[wayneL]

Oh dear, the strong swing right continues, hand wringing all around.

Far-right parties rattle traditional EU powers as humiliated Macron calls snap French election

Far-right parties have dealt stunning defeats to two of the bloc’s most important leaders: French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

www.theage.com.au

Brussels: Far-right parties rattled the traditional powers in the European Union and made major gains in parliamentary elections, dealing an especially humiliating defeat to French President Emmanuel Macron.
On a night where the 27-member bloc palpably shifted to the right, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni more than doubled her seats in the EU parliament. And even if the Alternative for Germany extreme right party was hounded by scandal involving candidates, it still rallied enough seats to sweep past the slumping Social Democrats of Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

And there is that far right label again... LMAO.

The danger is that it is being rendered meaningless by overuse and could actually provide cover for the true far right to emerge at some stage. And I see that as a distinct possibility has Europeans see their culture being utterly destroyed by rampant immigration

 

[investor13]

I know we're getting a little bit off topic here but I would say this:

I do not know PH personally nor am I a member of One Nation (I am a member of the Libertarian Party). But I am:
Friends with Malcolm Roberts and his family, via his daughter having been a client of mine when I was in Queensland.

Friends with the former WA state director and candidate for the legislative council in the upcoming Western Australian election.

Over the years we have also had Liberal Party family friends in both the state and Federal parliaments.

I can state categorically from my contact with these people that the One Nation people are far more genuine in their goodwill towards this country.

One may disagree or agree with their policy positions, but they are certainly not grifters in any sense of the word.

They are generally right of centre most certainly, but in no sense far right. In fact many of their policies are left of centre.

Just sick of idiots labeling everybody far right who aren't of the socialist/communist left.

ive got a lot of time for Roberts, as he is always respectful, well researched and greatful for the position.

 

[qldfrog]

She is actually like a Pauline Hanson

hum some similarities but not exactly the same level of education/world knowledge, she would not be out of place as PM or president..after the policies some might strongly oppose but she has some serious brain.
It seems that you can only be a redneck nazi to oppose millions of muslims soldiers sorry young males landing on your shores yearly...

 

[wayneL]

hum some similarities but not exactly the same level of education/world knowledge, she would not be out of place as PM or president..after the policies some might strongly oppose but she has some serious brain.
It seems that you can only be a redneck nazi to oppose millions of muslims soldiers sorry young males landing on your shores yearly...

A little off topic froggy.... I was listening to a speech of hers earlier and her language sounded just a little different to what I am used to hearing. Has she got some sort of regional accent?

Not that it matters, just curious.

 

[qldfrog]

A little off topic froggy.... I was listening to a speech of hers earlier and her language sounded just a little different to what I am used to hearing. Has she got some sort of regional accent?

Not that it matters, just curious.

I will have to relisten her, maybe just not parisian