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hi guys
in line with mazattelli and kennas..... yep hope Lloyd plays on (would be a crime for him to hang up the boots) aka Hirdy (oh where are you Jimmy sob sob we miss you sob sob .....oh sorry back on track) and take on the father figure role at the club also a pay cut so we can afford an A lister . So we have Hille or Watson as captain or the man who i think gets overlooked a bit Andrew Welsh ( he would be a great leader at our club on and off the field). Ryder rotating in the ruck then he could pretty much play around the ground in any position (maybe footballs first allrounder). Hurley and Neagle need to be given time to develop as our gun forwards after Lloyd/Lucas era. Now dont crucify me but would be willing to let Mcveigh go for a decent pick(but no idea what his contracts like) just feel he lacks the discipline going forward.

We are still developing and feel we have a couple of years yet before we should expect too much. The upside if we dont do so well over the next few years.....the coach cops the blame,gets sacked (dont get me wrong got respect for Knighta) and we bring in the prodigal son Mr. James Hird himself!!!!
 
nomore4s said:
Bellchambers might not be the best ruckman going around atm but at least he would have created more of a contest at the stoppages.
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Arrived back. Picked up the coverage on Friday night, just after Crows took the lead with 2 mins to go in the first quarter!! (As luck would have it).

Bombers had no hope - Watson double teamed and we played no ruckman. One was brilliant tactics by Crows the other was brilliantly stupid by Essendon.

I just could not believe it - no ruckman. The selection committee got everything they deserved. Pity it wasn't 100 points for good measure. I am absolutely gobsmacked and disgusted.

Sure, with the Crows playing in the form they are showing, the result was never really in doubt, but to go into a final without a ruckman was absolutely mental. It smacked of optimism at best and arrogance at worst. Even if they went into the game with a "Plan B" it might have been OK. But the game plan seemed to be just - "let Hooker contest".

Just as I've been saying, Hooker is developing into a player that Mark Bolton, Peter Cransberg and Kepler Bradley would be proud of.

I know that injury and suspension didn't help our season, but I agree with Nomores and Prospector - what would have been the harm in playing Bellchambers. Typical of the decisions the selection committee have been making all year! Kennas - where are the "bad reports" about Bellchambers? Are you talking bad stats or bad press. And what do you mean by "destroyed" Kennas? Since when has the logic been - We are weak in the ruck.....hey I've got an idea...let's not play one!!!! If you want bad stats - read Friday nights game.

No joking - Essendon would have been better not contesting and just giving away a free kick at every centre bounce - at least that would have allowed us time to man up, and flood back into their forward line!! Granted Bellchambers got smashed against Sandilands in his first game back in 10 weeks, but what a week to bring him back in!! Against the reigning All- Australian ruckman!!

While we are at it, I'll refer to my post a few months ago and say that McVeigh could be traded for the right price (wouldn't take much), along with Welsh. And I'll go as far as saying get rid of Bellchambers as well, if he is THAT BAD, that when Hille, Laycock and Ryder are unavailable going into an elimination final, the selection committee prefers to go in the ruck with a utility player and no backup - he must be completely %^$%ing hopeless and not worth a spot on the list.

Lovatt-Murray wins the gong for the most clangers in a match where it took quite a few to win the award.

For all the poor performances by Essendon - well done Crows. By far the better team and looking in great form. Good luck Crows supporters, I will be a temporary South Australian next weekend when I hope you knock out the Pies.

Duckman
 
Excuse me I'm a Queenslander.

Where is Essendon?

I know its somewhere between Tullamarine Airport and Moonee Ponds.

But being between those two is no reason to have a religion going.

gg
 
Ah but you don't understand that Esssendon, Strathmore, Ascot Vale and Moonee Ponds have the equivalent of God's own walking the earth.

Bit like some sections of Cairns
 
Duckman#72 said:
Granted Bellchambers got smashed against Sandilands in his first game back in 10 weeks, but what a week to bring him back in!! Against the reigning All- Australian ruckman!!
Duckman
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I really wonder if you do actually watch games.

One post you call for Bellchambers to come back in when he is suspended and injured and now you say he made his comeback for the first time in 10 weeks against Freo, where as he actually played the week before that against StKilda.

It's always a good idea if you are going to criticise, to at least have your facts right but of course this thread is full of uninformed opinions, so i will leave you guys to it as i would hate to let the truth get in the way of a good story.
 
Hi duckman

Agreed on the Mcveigh call as posted earlier (glad im not the only bombers fan with that feeling). But have to disagree with Welsh, his discipline and hardwork ethic goes mostly unnoticed (lucky to be playing this season after breaking his leg pre-season,sheer hardwork and determination has allowed him to get back even if not at 100% yet - now theres a message to send to the young guns!!) IMO he has leadership potential - infact i believe Sheeds was talking about his potential in this department when he first came to the club. Now LAYCOCK, oh please how many last chances do we give him. Would be happy to trade him for a bag of half time oranges
 
sorry forgot to add to the Welsh debate.... remember round 13??? 2nd game back he absolutely creamed Judd - he deserves alot more credit than he gets.

anyway heres to next year
 
Real1ty said:
One post you call for Bellchambers to come back in when he is suspended and injured and now you say he made his comeback for the first time in 10 weeks against Freo, where as he actually played the week before that against StKilda.
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Right back at you Real1ty. When did I ever suggest that Bellchambers should be playing when he was suspended. I did say that I was disappointed that they didn't play him when they had the chance during the season. Exactly the same as this weekend!!! You misinterpreted me a month or two ago and you've done it again today. I didn't say specific games, I was referring to in general when they had the chance to select him.

Sorry I was so surprised that they picked him for the St Kilda match that it slipped my mind. My point was that they obviously dropped him after the Freo preformance. Didn't they Real1ty?? Since I don't watch the matches, I've got no idea. Maybe Nomores might have a better idea?

Tell me Real1ty - are you one of the brilliant minds that thinks that going into a final without a ruckman (and please don't tell me that Hooker is a ruckman of any future potential)is better than going into a final with one.

I don't wish to fight with anyone on this thread and everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion but am I really out of line with my criticism of the team selection. Real1ty - as Hookers father, I think you and I are bound to cross paths.

Every business needs a performance review and Essendon are no exception. I love the Bombers and will always do so - but as a whole hearted supporter and country member that spends most weekends (not) watching their games, I am entitled to a "buy-in" on their performance. If the criticism offends you and your son, then I'm sorry but ......so be it.
Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
Lovatt-Murray wins the gong for the most clangers in a match where it took quite a few to win the award.

Duckman
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From bombers post match....
"O’Donnell said he was encouraged by the performance of Nathan Lovett-Murray throughout tonight’s match and was pleased with his ability to stay competitive even when the game was well beyond doubt.



“Nathan Lovett-Murray tried hard all day. He was in there running hard at all times and was trying to get it going our way. He should be really proud of his last month of football because he has done really well,” he said."

 

I didn't say he didn't try. I said he had the most clangers! In some ways I agree with O'Donnell - he was very trying. To be fair to Nathan, he had a go and at least he was "in the play". Unfortunately, he had one of those nights where things didn't go his way.

There was one 5 minute period in the third quarter when I thought he was directly responsible for 3 straight Adelaide goals (2 free kicks against and a turnover).

He certainly wasn't a passenger - but who played better, the guy who only touched it 10 times at 80% efficiency, or the player who knocked up getting it, with 30 touches at 50% efficiency. I will also admit that the reason I probably ended up picking on him was the fact he was one of the players trying hard to play under the team rules and ended up "forcing it" a couple of times too many.

Duckman
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Excuse me I'm a Queenslander.

Where is Essendon?

I know its somewhere between Tullamarine Airport and Moonee Ponds.

But being between those two is no reason to have a religion going.

gg
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I spent 3 years praying there from 1986-88. This is one of those threads that if you don't believe, you just have to comprehend that others do.
 
kennas said:
I spent 3 years praying there from 1986-88. This is one of those threads that if you don't believe, you just have to comprehend that others do.
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Ya should have prayed on Friday night Kennas, they needed every bit of extra help they could get. (where is the rofl icon when you need it)
 
From Patrick Smith today in The Australian.....

" Another whose future at Essendon must be clouded is Tom Bellchambers. Knights and his team selection panel opted to leave out the young ruckman Bellchambers on Friday night, and thus Adelaide's Ivan Maric and James Sellar met no opposition at stoppages. If Bellchambers could not make that Essendon side - Cale Hooker and Nathan Lovett-Murray were dragooned into the ruck and floundered - then there can be no scenario when he ever would. It was a selection mistake, as was plonking Irish recruit Michael Quinn into a final at the madhouse that is AAMI stadium.

These were two poor selection decisions and while they hardly impacted on the result.....it was an indication that, strategically, Essendon needs to be more sophisticated."

Patrick Smith must not watch the Essendon games either.

Duckman
 
Well done to Matthew LLoyd - a champion of the club right to the end.

I wish him well for retirement.

One way or another, 2010 will be an interesting year.

Hopefully Gumbleton, Hurley, Pears, Ryder and Neagle can continue to grow and develop as key players. With Lucas and Lloyd gone there is no safety net anymore.

Duckman
 
Oh no!!
I only caught wind of the news today.

Farewell Matty LLoyd, what a champion:bowdown:
Feels like losing Hird all over again
 
JOBE WATSON CAPTAIN!!! ANDREW WELSH VICE CAPTAIN!!!

Fantastic choices i believe. Was always for Welshy to be promoted. Even when some were saying to get rid of him. Watch him fully fit and in this role, maybe a few eating their words Got some good prospects in the draft and also cut loose some less committed players. 2010 looking exciting although still think we have 2-3 years before we will hit our straps. GL all!!!
 
Well all i can say is aren't we glad Lovett went to the Saints. Effectively we got Williams for nothing and Saints may have given away an early draft pick for nothing Thought it funny they picked him up in the first place given his lack of discipline. Well done to Knighta and co for sticking to their guns and only backing players that want to be part of the club and give 100%. Couldnt have happened to a nicer team
 
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