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I don't think I am being unfair to Whyte at all.

My gripe with him is the fact that he knew that Tucker and Kennedy had a beneficial interest in the EPF yet dolled out legal work to Tucker to act for the EIF. Tucker was also an investor in the funds. The conflict of interest was clear as day.

How on earth could Tucker be a solicitor for Whyte and then throw on another hat and be a beneficial owner of the EPF and negotiate priority deeds with Whyte.

As a former lawyer for the company as well as a director he should not have been used by Whyte under "any" circumstances.

I still note how quiet he is on this issue. He can make a statement on the Equititrust website on the updates page and say that he didn't give legal work to Tucker and Tucker and Cowan who are now embroiled in massive litigation regarding a breach of fiduciary duties...

Whyte can also emphatically deny he knew Tucker and Kennedy had a beneficial interest in the EPF and that he was dealing with them directly in regard to priorities...

Doubt that will ever happen... Fees to Whyte and BDO need to be challenged and not paid until there is an investigation into the relationship between Whyte and Tucker / Kennedy...






Nothingtoadd said:
I think you need to remember that David Whyte was receiver of the Income fund only, and there was a separate receiver appointed by BOSI over the Premium fund only. Hall Chadwick are the only ones appointed over "everything" ie Equititrust Ltd. Whyte may have known that Tucker & Kennedy were involved in the entity that bought the debts but he would not have been involved in negotiating the sale, and would not have known the price.

I think you are unfair to him if you place him in the same bucket as Pleash, Tucker, Kennedy or McIvor
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Done With That said:
Frankly I don’t care if you are Mark McIvor, No Trust or if Spatial G is Mark McIvor. I detest Mark McIvor because he lost my money and I’m sick of being broke because of him.

What I do like is that you are both very skilled at unearthing documents and research that shows us former investors how skulduggery works in big business and some of the tactics that lost my money. My hope as I read this forum is that prosecutors read your posts and take action.

No Trust I’ve read every post you’ve made and applaud your tenacity. My father was a police investigator and Spatial G’s writing style and the way he lays things out looks exactly like Federal Police training to me. So I suspect he is one of the police officers who saw what was going on when they raided McIvor’s office and took a mass of documents.

As I said, I don’t care who either of you is. I do care that I’m living on the smell of an oily rag because some bastard thought he needed my money more than me.

Please don’t either of you stop digging. Go get ‘em fellas!! (I assume you are both men).
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Done With That said:
I’m sure they do No Trust. But that shouldn’t affect finding the truth.

I remember that when I first posted here, you called me Marky Boy. I was taken aback but understood you’ve taken probably greater losses from the collapse of Equititrust than I have and your hatred makes you a bit paranoid.

Personally I’m through with hatred. It made me sick. It blinds us and we don’t see clearly. I’ve been there and it’s not a good place to be. I now live by the words of Francis of Assisi “Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love.”

Now I just want truth and justice to come from this. I want facts so lawyers or investigators (whoever is reading your posts) can get to the bottom of how and why McIvor, Tucker, Kennedy and all did what they did and get some money back for me. That’s why I applaud the research and digging that you and Spatial G have done. What he’s posted shows he’s a clever investigator. I’m happy to have both No Trust and Spatial G fighting for my rights.

Anyway, enough of my old lady ramblings. I’m not your mother. I don’t live on the Gold Coast any more but if I did I’d love sit across the table and work together to get justice for you and me and comeuppance for these miscreants. Keep up the good work.
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Good evening "Done with that" and "No Trust." Your'e right.....your'e not our mother, but you make some damn fine points. Well I've just got back from a trip up north over the weekend. Achieved a lot really; one wedding, one funeral and visited my Mum who is resident in a local nursing home and spent some valuable time with Dad. I love the tropical lifestyle, but after a lifetime up north, I'm glad I've made the break and settled a new lifestyle on the Coast.

My heart goes out to you "Done with that" and particularly the way you describe a meagre existence arising from the collapse of EquitiTrust. Whether one could afford to lose money or not resulting from investment in EquitiTrust, has no bearing on the fact that many people lost their life savings and couldn't even procure a sympathetic determination from Centrelink based on technicalities of "Capital return" versus "Dividends/distributions." Pathetic really from an Australian Government Agency.

Nonetheless, the battle must go on and as we have seen from "No Trust's" reliable posts, the stage is set for an almighty fall. From my perspective I just want the truth to come out, and I will continue to agitate where I can with the information I have and the research I do.

I note with interest the perceived silence of the receiver of the EIF and BDO. This is not missed by most observors of this post, but strangely seems to have been missed in the last report to investors by Hall Chadwick. At the same time the silence of the regulator is also worthy of note. I'm still intrigued "No Trust" with why the regulator conducted the raid days after meeting with Tucker and then witnessing his dismissal as a Director. I would love to know who Tucker spoke with from the regulator and what evidence was used to obtain the warrant necessitating involvement of AFP.

From what I understand and have researched, McIvor was not restrained in any way, nor interviewed at the time of the raid, nor arrested following discovery of so-called damning evidence sufficient to have him banned for life from financial services. Now, if he is guilty, he deserves more than a lifetime ban for his behaviour given the testimony of people like "Done with that." But, I can't help but think that McIvor's penalty was nothing more than a slap on the wrist if in fact the allegations against him that warranted bringing in armed federal police were actually true.

This is where it gets interesting for me because prima facie evidence is required to be submitted to obtain approval for a warrant. Somewhere along the lines the regulator has had to provide evidence that will stack up under legal scrutiny in order to engage AFP and obtain approval for the warrant to raid McIvor's family home and the office on Chevron Island.

I've got to tell you "No Trust" that if I had federal police raid my family home and office and the best they could do "having not arrested me," were to cover their tracks by attacking my reputation claiming me as an unfit person to hold an AFSL, they would definately have more than this post on Aussie Stock Forums to deal with.......

Notwithstanding any of the above, I wish for the truth in this matter to reveal the motives and actions associated with the perpetrator's of this unnecessary destruction of retiree's investments and nest eggs. I would also love to see restorative justice occur, but I don't give too much thought to what is an appropriate penalty for those wilfully involved in this debacle.

I will continue to research from available material as I have time.
 
Nothingtoadd said:
or, (c) all of the above?
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"Nothingtoadd" - perhaps he lived under the addage that "He who owns the gold rules," not realising that it attracted those with meglomaniac tendencies........He obviously didn't see the ambush headed his way......
 
No Trust said:
I don't think I am being unfair to Whyte at all.

My gripe with him is the fact that he knew that Tucker and Kennedy had a beneficial interest in the EPF yet dolled out legal work to Tucker to act for the EIF. Tucker was also an investor in the funds. The conflict of interest was clear as day.

How on earth could Tucker be a solicitor for Whyte and then throw on another hat and be a beneficial owner of the EPF and negotiate priority deeds with Whyte.

As a former lawyer for the company as well as a director he should not have been used by Whyte under "any" circumstances.

I still note how quiet he is on this issue. He can make a statement on the Equititrust website on the updates page and say that he didn't give legal work to Tucker and Tucker and Cowan who are now embroiled in massive litigation regarding a breach of fiduciary duties...

Whyte can also emphatically deny he knew Tucker and Kennedy had a beneficial interest in the EPF and that he was dealing with them directly in regard to priorities...

Doubt that will ever happen... Fees to Whyte and BDO need to be challenged and not paid until there is an investigation into the relationship between Whyte and Tucker / Kennedy...
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I'm with you on this one "No Trust" - Too many intermingled meetings and contractual obligations between (Whyte, BDO and staff) and (Tucker & Cowen and staff) to warrant dismissal without further investigation.
 
Look SpatialG that's a nice back story about being up north etc. But you said you would provide sworn evidence that you were not McIvor... You promised this not me... Where is it ?

As far as I'm concerned you are McIvor.

Prove me wrong and I will give you my unreserved apology for even inferring you were the aforesaid miscreant.


You know what we all think of you, that's no secret. This thread is free and open to everyone. Contribute anything you want.

But you promised to prove that you are in fact not the one and only "Marky Boy"



http://www.smh.com.au/business/names-mcivor-hes-not-happy-20120711-21wci.html


SpatialG said:
Good evening "Done with that" and "No Trust." Your'e right.....your'e not our mother, but you make some damn fine points. Well I've just got back from a trip up north over the weekend. Achieved a lot really; one wedding, one funeral and visited my Mum who is resident in a local nursing home and spent some valuable time with Dad. I love the tropical lifestyle, but after a lifetime up north, I'm glad I've made the break and settled a new lifestyle on the Coast.

My heart goes out to you "Done with that" and particularly the way you describe a meagre existence arising from the collapse of EquitiTrust. Whether one could afford to lose money or not resulting from investment in EquitiTrust, has no bearing on the fact that many people lost their life savings and couldn't even procure a sympathetic determination from Centrelink based on technicalities of "Capital return" versus "Dividends/distributions." Pathetic really from an Australian Government Agency.

Nonetheless, the battle must go on and as we have seen from "No Trust's" reliable posts, the stage is set for an almighty fall. From my perspective I just want the truth to come out, and I will continue to agitate where I can with the information I have and the research I do.

I note with interest the perceived silence of the receiver of the EIF and BDO. This is not missed by most observors of this post, but strangely seems to have been missed in the last report to investors by Hall Chadwick. At the same time the silence of the regulator is also worthy of note. I'm still intrigued "No Trust" with why the regulator conducted the raid days after meeting with Tucker and then witnessing his dismissal as a Director. I would love to know who Tucker spoke with from the regulator and what evidence was used to obtain the warrant necessitating involvement of AFP.

From what I understand and have researched, McIvor was not restrained in any way, nor interviewed at the time of the raid, nor arrested following discovery of so-called damning evidence sufficient to have him banned for life from financial services. Now, if he is guilty, he deserves more than a lifetime ban for his behaviour given the testimony of people like "Done with that." But, I can't help but think that McIvor's penalty was nothing more than a slap on the wrist if in fact the allegations against him that warranted bringing in armed federal police were actually true.

This is where it gets interesting for me because prima facie evidence is required to be submitted to obtain approval for a warrant. Somewhere along the lines the regulator has had to provide evidence that will stack up under legal scrutiny in order to engage AFP and obtain approval for the warrant to raid McIvor's family home and the office on Chevron Island.

I've got to tell you "No Trust" that if I had federal police raid my family home and office and the best they could do "having not arrested me," were to cover their tracks by attacking my reputation claiming me as an unfit person to hold an AFSL, they would definately have more than this post on Aussie Stock Forums to deal with.......

Notwithstanding any of the above, I wish for the truth in this matter to reveal the motives and actions associated with the perpetrator's of this unnecessary destruction of retiree's investments and nest eggs. I would also love to see restorative justice occur, but I don't give too much thought to what is an appropriate penalty for those wilfully involved in this debacle.

I will continue to research from available material as I have time.
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A bigger bomb is about to drop that hasn't been investigated yet involving both McIvor and Tucker.

Let's say the timing needed to be just right...

I've alluded to this before, but given the deception perpetuated by both Tucker and McIvor as to their integrity, no one in their right mind would have believed what the dynamic duo did.... Up until now.........

All the evidence is there and it will hit like a proverbial baseball bat to the head...

It's taken some time but it's like tenderising meat, the timing had to be right before it was thrown on the fire.

Looking back 7 or so years who would have thought that McIvor would have become a convicted criminal bankrupt ???

Also a failure at marriage too...

Who would have thought that Tucker would be openly declaring the prospect of personal bankruptcy in an open Federal Court hearing ?

Well the facade of integrity has well and truly been removed and look at the filth of character and moral depravity on display for the world to see.

These two miscreants had a history of trying to do people over.

That will now come to the fore in the National Media Spotlight just at the right time...

Further if McIvor is innocent as you allege why did he give up on his appeal regarding his life ban ???

McIvor was a document fiddler going back many years and he was finally caught.

There is more to come as there is no statute of limitations on criminal offences...
 
No Trust you've got to stop this paranoia that anyone who comes on the forum and gives an opinion different to yours, especially about the miscreant that caused this debacle, is Marky Boy.

Here's a thought ... meet and have coffee, exchange notes, sniff each other's butts. Exchange emails but get over it. What I want here is research and truth. I already have opinions about certain people who engaged in the loss of my money. Now I want to see how widespread the net went. How many pockets were lined.

My father used to say "follow the money" ... who gained, how and why.

If this is how their industry works, how many retirees have been creamed by these types of businesses? We work all our lives, scrape and save for our retirement and some mongrel who's already rich takes our lives away in one fell swoop.

It has to stop. I thought we were living in a country that prided itself on the fair go principle. Doesn't seem like anyone is really looking after people like me apart from you guys here doing your reveal of documents and frankly good investigation.

Where's the media and ASIC in all this?

No Trust said:
Look SpatialG that's a nice back story about being up north etc. But you said you would provide sworn evidence that you were not McIvor... You promised this not me... Where is it ?

As far as I'm concerned you are McIvor.

Prove me wrong and I will give you my unreserved apology for even inferring you were the aforesaid miscreant.


You know what we all think of you, that's no secret. This thread is free and open to everyone. Contribute anything you want.

But you promised to prove that you are in fact not the one and only "Marky Boy"



http://www.smh.com.au/business/names-mcivor-hes-not-happy-20120711-21wci.html
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SpatialG has made an offer to prove he's not, lets see it...

Been though the saga of false accounts... Happy to meet, anytime... :)

Done With That said:
No Trust you've got to stop this paranoia that anyone who comes on the forum and gives an opinion different to yours, especially about the miscreant that caused this debacle, is Marky Boy.

Here's a thought ... meet and have coffee, exchange notes, sniff each other's butts. Exchange emails but get over it. What I want here is research and truth. I already have opinions about certain people who engaged in the loss of my money. Now I want to see how widespread the net went. How many pockets were lined.

My father used to say "follow the money" ... who gained, how and why.

If this is how their industry works, how many retirees have been creamed by these types of businesses? We work all our lives, scrape and save for our retirement and some mongrel who's already rich takes our lives away in one fell swoop.

It has to stop. I thought we were living in a country that prided itself on the fair go principle. Doesn't seem like anyone is really looking after people like me apart from you guys here doing your reveal of documents and frankly good investigation.

Where's the media and ASIC in all this?
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Oh, oh the parallel's... :)

http://ampitup.info/?p=27

A raid of 28 ASIC officers, including armed Federal Police, of prominent Gold Coast fund manager Equititrust Ltd in 2011, has emerged as a machiavellian misuse of Federal Government force for fraudulent profit making. Brisbane based lawyer and insolvency specialist, David Tucker, facilitated the raid in a titanic struggle to overwhelm the owner of the mortgage fund and largest investor, Mark McIvor. New information emerging from Federal Court hearings by the company liquidator are set to lift the lid on ASIC misfeasance and profound fiduciary fraud. The raid, also executed on McIvor’s home, propelled the destruction of $300 million of valuable property assets by a suite of insolvency practitioners. Equititrust’s ex-CEO, David Kennedy, a lawyer and insolvency practitioner, has also been implicated in the scam.

Mr Tucker, the son of the ex-President of the Qld Liberal Party, Robert Tucker, obviously wields substantial political and legal influence. Only a short twelve months prior to the raid, he’d joined the board of Equititrust Ltd,


SpatialG said:
Good evening "Done with that" and "No Trust." Your'e right.....your'e not our mother, but you make some damn fine points. Well I've just got back from a trip up north over the weekend. Achieved a lot really; one wedding, one funeral and visited my Mum who is resident in a local nursing home and spent some valuable time with Dad. I love the tropical lifestyle, but after a lifetime up north, I'm glad I've made the break and settled a new lifestyle on the Coast.

My heart goes out to you "Done with that" and particularly the way you describe a meagre existence arising from the collapse of EquitiTrust. Whether one could afford to lose money or not resulting from investment in EquitiTrust, has no bearing on the fact that many people lost their life savings and couldn't even procure a sympathetic determination from Centrelink based on technicalities of "Capital return" versus "Dividends/distributions." Pathetic really from an Australian Government Agency.

Nonetheless, the battle must go on and as we have seen from "No Trust's" reliable posts, the stage is set for an almighty fall. From my perspective I just want the truth to come out, and I will continue to agitate where I can with the information I have and the research I do.

I note with interest the perceived silence of the receiver of the EIF and BDO. This is not missed by most observors of this post, but strangely seems to have been missed in the last report to investors by Hall Chadwick. At the same time the silence of the regulator is also worthy of note. I'm still intrigued "No Trust" with why the regulator conducted the raid days after meeting with Tucker and then witnessing his dismissal as a Director. I would love to know who Tucker spoke with from the regulator and what evidence was used to obtain the warrant necessitating involvement of AFP.

From what I understand and have researched, McIvor was not restrained in any way, nor interviewed at the time of the raid, nor arrested following discovery of so-called damning evidence sufficient to have him banned for life from financial services. Now, if he is guilty, he deserves more than a lifetime ban for his behaviour given the testimony of people like "Done with that." But, I can't help but think that McIvor's penalty was nothing more than a slap on the wrist if in fact the allegations against him that warranted bringing in armed federal police were actually true.

This is where it gets interesting for me because prima facie evidence is required to be submitted to obtain approval for a warrant. Somewhere along the lines the regulator has had to provide evidence that will stack up under legal scrutiny in order to engage AFP and obtain approval for the warrant to raid McIvor's family home and the office on Chevron Island.

I've got to tell you "No Trust" that if I had federal police raid my family home and office and the best they could do "having not arrested me," were to cover their tracks by attacking my reputation claiming me as an unfit person to hold an AFSL, they would definately have more than this post on Aussie Stock Forums to deal with.......

Notwithstanding any of the above, I wish for the truth in this matter to reveal the motives and actions associated with the perpetrator's of this unnecessary destruction of retiree's investments and nest eggs. I would also love to see restorative justice occur, but I don't give too much thought to what is an appropriate penalty for those wilfully involved in this debacle.

I will continue to research from available material as I have time.
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Yes, it looks like that article was written by McIvor. But I don't see that implicates Spatial G as Marky Boy. Just because he alluded to the same events?

You're starting to worry me No Trust. Seems like you're on a witch hunt for McIvor. In some ways I don't blame you. But what I want is the truth to come out. Who did what, when and how did they gain. I don't think any of us know the truth yet. All we know is our bank accounts are empty and someonelse's is full.

I'm looking forward to the next drop of evidence that you mentioned that implicates McIvor and Tucker. Let's get to the bottom of this in a reasoned way.

No Trust said:
Oh, oh the parallel's... :)

http://ampitup.info/?p=27

A raid of 28 ASIC officers, including armed Federal Police, of prominent Gold Coast fund manager Equititrust Ltd in 2011, has emerged as a machiavellian misuse of Federal Government force for fraudulent profit making. Brisbane based lawyer and insolvency specialist, David Tucker, facilitated the raid in a titanic struggle to overwhelm the owner of the mortgage fund and largest investor, Mark McIvor. New information emerging from Federal Court hearings by the company liquidator are set to lift the lid on ASIC misfeasance and profound fiduciary fraud. The raid, also executed on McIvor’s home, propelled the destruction of $300 million of valuable property assets by a suite of insolvency practitioners. Equititrust’s ex-CEO, David Kennedy, a lawyer and insolvency practitioner, has also been implicated in the scam.

Mr Tucker, the son of the ex-President of the Qld Liberal Party, Robert Tucker, obviously wields substantial political and legal influence. Only a short twelve months prior to the raid, he’d joined the board of Equititrust Ltd,
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Hi "Marky Boy"...

The mouse has a tail...


What is the connection between Medcraft, Westpac criminality and ASIC’s relentless attack on Equititrust Ltd which destroyed the life savings of 1400 investors? Mr Medcraft’s work colleague at Soc Gen for 10 years, Mr David Hickie, was a highly experienced financier and ex-fund manager of the year. Over his career he became known as a ‘White Knight’, assisting beleaguered investors and standing up for the downtrodden in the financial services industry. Post his departure from Soc Gen, he chose to render assistance to the 30 elderly citizens criminally defrauded by Westpac. Hickie exhorted the assistance of his prior work colleague, Mr Medcraft, the new Chairman of ASIC at that time. Via five emails, sent during 2011, Hickie endeavoured to gain Medcraft’s attention, without success. Ironically, he subsequently attracted ASIC’s attention for significant other reasons.

In 2012, Hickie accepted an appointment on the Board of beleaguered fund manager, Equititrust Ltd. The purpose of his appointment was two fold;

  1. To assist Equititrust to restructure, post the illegal ASIC raid of October 2011. McIvor, Equititrust’s major investor and capital provider, had sought to introduce an external custodial role to protect investors and implement effective asset management.
  2. To transition investors, and substantial property assets, from the existing mortgage fund to the NSX (National Stock Exchange) company, Venture Axess Group Ltd in an orderly wind up mortgage fund industry. The corporate restructure of Equititrust and its assets had been carefully planned and agreed in a detailed document called PUHF ‘Put the Unitholders First’.
Not only was he unsuccessful in those attempts, he was viciously attacked by ASIC in circumstances that are inexplicable. The wide ranging ASIC abuse rendered nugatory the NSX listed company, inflicting mortal damage to efforts to protect investors and valuable assets from insolvency misconduct.


http://ampitup.info/?p=29
 
Lets say, I can multitask...



Done With That said:
Yes, it looks like that article was written by McIvor. But I don't see that implicates Spatial G as Marky Boy. Just because he alluded to the same events?

You're starting to worry me No Trust. Seems like you're on a witch hunt for McIvor. In some ways I don't blame you. But what I want is the truth to come out. Who did what, when and how did they gain. I don't think any of us know the truth yet. All we know is our bank accounts are empty and someonelse's is full.

I'm looking forward to the next drop of evidence that you mentioned that implicates McIvor and Tucker. Let's get to the bottom of this in a reasoned way.
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Public Examination and documents subpoenaed will be a bombshell, I'm reliably informed...
The who did what will all be revealed...

Worrells rolled, I'm told so will Whyte and BDO... Watch this space, serious legal machinations going on in the background at the moment...

Done With That said:
Yes, it looks like that article was written by McIvor. But I don't see that implicates Spatial G as Marky Boy. Just because he alluded to the same events?

You're starting to worry me No Trust. Seems like you're on a witch hunt for McIvor. In some ways I don't blame you. But what I want is the truth to come out. Who did what, when and how did they gain. I don't think any of us know the truth yet. All we know is our bank accounts are empty and someonelse's is full.

I'm looking forward to the next drop of evidence that you mentioned that implicates McIvor and Tucker. Let's get to the bottom of this in a reasoned way.
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Lets say, Tucker and Kennedy and Nominee Directors shareholders being thrown under the bus...
 
ASIC, is involved now as are a number of "other" regulatory bodies, due to extreme pressure being applied in the last few weeks by some unnamed individual...
 
As for the media, lets say, there is a time to release the sling shot... This is brewing into a big story and big big part of it will be the 3 days of Tuckers Public Examination / Humiliation...
 
No Trust said:
Very long winded response, but no simple denial... Oh "Marky Boy" no one else in the world would ever defend you, EXCEPT YOU !!!
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Good afternoon "No Trust" - I note you're still backing your position that I'm "Marky Boy." A bit sad really that the day's of trust are well gone - hence your title "No Trust."

Have you given any consideration to the possibility that my comment "Happy to swear that under oath" was based on my confidence that I will never be in the dock faced with the prospect of having to "Swear under oath?" I'm not sure "Marky Boy" could make that comment with the same degree of certainty.

By the way, have you answered these questions yet?
  • Have you eliminated all other possibilities for who SpatialG could be?
  • If you were prosecuting me, what evidence would you use to have me found guilty as being "Marky Boy"?
  • What are the characteristics that SpatialG possesses that concludes he is "Marky Boy"? i.e., age, marital status, location of birth etc.
  • Does the writing style of SpatialG align with that of "Marky Boy"?
  • Does SpatialG even live on the Gold Coast - a place "Marky Boy" has called home for forty plus years.
  • Has SpatialG ever claimed a legal and financial services background in any of his writings?
  • Is it possible that SpatialG is actually aligned with "No Trust" in wanting the truth to come out in relation to the whole EquitiTrust matter, but is just coming from different angles and with a different life experience?
  • Would Stacey Turner or David Tucker agree with your conclusions were they ever to meet SpatialG?
Further, I will give you some hints;
  • left click on the word SpatialG and check my age - does this align with the age of "Marky Boy?"
  • What is "Marky Boy's" marital status? I am a happily married man, 29 years in fact.
  • I have two adult sons - I think you will find "Marky Boy" only has daughters.
  • I have never been involved in legal and financial services.
This is the last post I will make on this matter - there's more serious issues to be discussed.
 
No Trust said:
A bigger bomb is about to drop that hasn't been investigated yet involving both McIvor and Tucker.

Let's say the timing needed to be just right...

I've alluded to this before, but given the deception perpetuated by both Tucker and McIvor as to their integrity, no one in their right mind would have believed what the dynamic duo did.... Up until now.........

All the evidence is there and it will hit like a proverbial baseball bat to the head...

It's taken some time but it's like tenderising meat, the timing had to be right before it was thrown on the fire.

Looking back 7 or so years who would have thought that McIvor would have become a convicted criminal bankrupt ???

Also a failure at marriage too...

Who would have thought that Tucker would be openly declaring the prospect of personal bankruptcy in an open Federal Court hearing ?

Well the facade of integrity has well and truly been removed and look at the filth of character and moral depravity on display for the world to see.

These two miscreants had a history of trying to do people over.

That will now come to the fore in the National Media Spotlight just at the right time...

Further if McIvor is innocent as you allege why did he give up on his appeal regarding his life ban ???

McIvor was a document fiddler going back many years and he was finally caught.

There is more to come as there is no statute of limitations on criminal offences...
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"No Trust" - can you please point me to a statement where I have alleged McIvor is innocent? If you can, I will withdraw it because it is inconsistent with my desire to see the truth come out.

In my opinion the truth can only come out under legal scrutiny and to date given the absence of legal proceedings taken against "Marky Boy" there is little to no evidence capable of pronouncing innocence or guilt.

Unless you can point me to court judgments suggesting otherwise, I am under the impression ASIC took actions based on their own investigations and internal assessments, but that none of these have yet been tested in a court of law.

Happy to be guided if I'm misinformed.
 
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