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No Trust said:
All the money that Tucker and Kennedy made will now be lost... They know it too
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"No Trust" while a very wide net has been thrown; the assumption is that it has been thrown wide enough to capture all interests of Tucker, Kennedy, Peldan, Cook, Whyte, and, and, and....... It is worth noting the corporate/commercialenvironment is different today compared to post GFC and they have had plenty of time to scheme and squirrell away, have they not?
 
No Trust said:
Wouldn't it be prudent for the regulators to review all insolvencies that both Tucker and Kennedy have been involved in. Same goes for Tucker and Cowan and Worrells. If they've hidden this little "scheme" as Russell's describe it, common sense would suggest a broad net needs to be cast over other appointments and interconnected activities between this unholy quartet.
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Absolutely "No Trust" - I was looking through the LM Investments liquidation a couple of nights ago and the usual suspects of Whyte and Tucker have prominence. In fact regarding Whyte, it looks as though there could be generational change occurring because there is a junior with the same surname claiming an exhorbitant hourly rate for administrative work that in any other business would not attract anywhere near that type of income. Insolvency at all levels is a rort against creditors and owners under the current legislative framework.
 
No Trust said:
He's not that smart...

Equititrust was finished, McIvor had seen to that... Tucker was as useless as t#t's on a bull as a director...

Tucker and Kennedy were opportunists who saw a quick buck and that's about it. The only thing they schemed about was hiding their identity and dumb and dumber couldn't even do that...
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You may be right "No Trust" - But consider this..... my line of thinking came about from the court order referred to below where there is the possibility that meetings between Tucker and Director's of EquitiTrust, BOSI and ASIC were potentially occurring since 1 July 2009. That is well before Tucker was appointed as a Director. If there wasn't the possibility that Tucker was scheming this far back, then why the order to produce documents to a date that far back?

REGISTRAR: DEPUTY DISTRICT REGISTRAR LYNCH
DATE OF ORDER: 14 June 2017
WHERE MADE: Brisbane
THE COURT ORDERS THAT:
Pursuant to subsection 597(9) of the Act, that the following persons and entities are directed to produce at the examination of DAVID ROBERT WALTER TUCKER, at 10.00 am on 11 July 2017, the following books in his possession relating to the Company or its examinable affairs:

1. In the case of DAVID ROBERT WALTER TUCKER, the following documents:

(b) Agendas, board papers (and notes made thereon) for all and any meetings of directors of the Company which Mr Tucker attended at any time from 1 July, 2009 including but not limited to meetings on 14 September, 2011, 12 October, 2011 and 17 October, 2011;

(c) Any memoranda, diary notes, files notes, records or minutes of meetings, PowerPoint presentations, letters, facsimiles, emails or any other correspondence prepared by, or sent or received by, Mr Tucker, concerning meetings with officers of the BOSI on or after 1 July, 2009, including but not limited to a meeting on or about 7 October 2011;

(d) Any memoranda, diary notes, files notes, records or minutes of meetings, PowerPoint presentations, letters, facsimiles, emails or any other correspondence prepared by, or sent or received by, Mr Tucker, concerning meetings with officers of ASIC, on or after 1 July, 2009, at which the affairs of the Company were discussed, including but not limited to a meeting on or about 10 October 2011;
 
I think some squirrel's are smart others blow their whole loads...

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SpatialG said:
"No Trust" while a very wide net has been thrown; the assumption is that it has been thrown wide enough to capture all interests of Tucker, Kennedy, Peldan, Cook, Whyte, and, and, and....... It is worth noting the corporate/commercialenvironment is different today compared to post GFC and they have had plenty of time to scheme and squirrell away, have they not?
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Look anything's possible, but is goes to show what a f#cking imbecile McIvor was for employing him as a solicitor and putting him on the board.

McIvor was warned about Tucker long before that and he didn't listen, instead McIvor listened to Tucker rather than people who were loyal to him and made him money.

Look where McIvor is now and it all stems back to McIvor making a decision to listen to Tucker... You know the old saying, you can bring a horse to water...

SpatialG said:
You may be right "No Trust" - But consider this..... my line of thinking came about from the court order referred to below where there is the possibility that meetings between Tucker and Director's of EquitiTrust, BOSI and ASIC were potentially occurring since 1 July 2009. That is well before Tucker was appointed as a Director. If there wasn't the possibility that Tucker was scheming this far back, then why the order to produce documents to a date that far back?

REGISTRAR: DEPUTY DISTRICT REGISTRAR LYNCH
DATE OF ORDER: 14 June 2017
WHERE MADE: Brisbane
THE COURT ORDERS THAT:
Pursuant to subsection 597(9) of the Act, that the following persons and entities are directed to produce at the examination of DAVID ROBERT WALTER TUCKER, at 10.00 am on 11 July 2017, the following books in his possession relating to the Company or its examinable affairs:

1. In the case of DAVID ROBERT WALTER TUCKER, the following documents:

(b) Agendas, board papers (and notes made thereon) for all and any meetings of directors of the Company which Mr Tucker attended at any time from 1 July, 2009 including but not limited to meetings on 14 September, 2011, 12 October, 2011 and 17 October, 2011;

(c) Any memoranda, diary notes, files notes, records or minutes of meetings, PowerPoint presentations, letters, facsimiles, emails or any other correspondence prepared by, or sent or received by, Mr Tucker, concerning meetings with officers of the BOSI on or after 1 July, 2009, including but not limited to a meeting on or about 7 October 2011;

(d) Any memoranda, diary notes, files notes, records or minutes of meetings, PowerPoint presentations, letters, facsimiles, emails or any other correspondence prepared by, or sent or received by, Mr Tucker, concerning meetings with officers of ASIC, on or after 1 July, 2009, at which the affairs of the Company were discussed, including but not limited to a meeting on or about 10 October 2011;
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Its all a scam, and the courts allow it... McIvor used the same modus operandi against innocent people and look where it got him... On the rough end of the pineapple himself.


SpatialG said:
Absolutely "No Trust" - I was looking through the LM Investments liquidation a couple of nights ago and the usual suspects of Whyte and Tucker have prominence. In fact regarding Whyte, it looks as though there could be generational change occurring because there is a junior with the same surname claiming an exhorbitant hourly rate for administrative work that in any other business would not attract anywhere near that type of income. Insolvency at all levels is a rort against creditors and owners under the current legislative framework.
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The Public Examination / Humiliation next month will be under oath... The truth must finally come out...
 
No Trust said:
Look anything's possible, but is goes to show what a f#cking imbecile McIvor was for employing him as a solicitor and putting him on the board.

McIvor was warned about Tucker long before that and he didn't listen, instead McIvor listened to Tucker rather than people who were loyal to him and made him money.

Look where McIvor is now and it all stems back to McIvor making a decision to listen to Tucker... You know the old saying, you can bring a horse to water...
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Fair enough "No Trust" - and sometimes those horses won't eat the salt tablet either......

There were obvious behaviour traits and practices employed by McIvor that offsided parties at various levels of the board, industry and also the regulator (ASIC). So where does that leave us now? Tucker made all kinds of allegations against McIvor to achieve the outcome of having EquitiTrust placed into administration, and if rumours are true, he even attempted to withdraw his superannuation before this course of action. Contrast this to McIvor who reserved making judgement against those allegations in the supreme court, suggesting all will be revealed in the fullness of time. Perhaps, that is close to the truth, given what we are finding out through discovery proceedings of examinable affairs.

Notwithstanding both men's approach to business, it will be interesting to see if the evidence that washes up ultimately facilitates litigation opportunities in the interests of the unitholders. Should this ever come to fruition, it would be intriguing to know where the move would come from in much the same way as the surprise evidence Russell's managed to come up with to force the current examinations.
 
No Trust said:
Useful...

http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Find-legal-information/Criminal-justice/Offences/Perjury
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"No Trust" you've mentioned the term "Dumb and Dumber" at times - You could change this to "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" if he were to go down the road of perjury.

The strategy of getting the examinations set aside didn't work. Sometimes to choose a path of concealment causes so much more grief than just being a good officer of the court and being honourable.... then again, perhaps it doesn't pay as well, which is obviously a huge temptation for some personality types. Interestingly, these types seem to migrate towards insolvency as their preferred MO for making an income.
 
I'm sorry, but the term truth and McIvor just don't belong together.

McIvor put all these miscreants in their positions. He's to blame...

I'm sure McIvor will also push through the same info through his mate Vincent and the Meridien boys as he did in this instance...

Not that I'm complaining at all, it's just fun watching them destroy each other...

Watching train wreck's from a distance can be quite cathartic...

SpatialG said:
Fair enough "No Trust" - and sometimes those horses won't eat the salt tablet either......

There were obvious behaviour traits and practices employed by McIvor that offsided parties at various levels of the board, industry and also the regulator (ASIC). So where does that leave us now? Tucker made all kinds of allegations against McIvor to achieve the outcome of having EquitiTrust placed into administration, and if rumours are true, he even attempted to withdraw his superannuation before this course of action. Contrast this to McIvor who reserved making judgement against those allegations in the supreme court, suggesting all will be revealed in the fullness of time. Perhaps, that is close to the truth, given what we are finding out through discovery proceedings of examinable affairs.

Notwithstanding both men's approach to business, it will be interesting to see if the evidence that washes up ultimately facilitates litigation opportunities in the interests of the unitholders. Should this ever come to fruition, it would be intriguing to know where the move would come from in much the same way as the surprise evidence Russell's managed to come up with to force the current examinations.
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Sure, I'm happy to use the term Dumb, Dumber and the Dumbest, McIvor was the dumbest of all...

You don't put Tucker and Kennedy into your organisation then complain when they f#ck you over...



SpatialG said:
"No Trust" you've mentioned the term "Dumb and Dumber" at times - You could change this to "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" if he were to go down the road of perjury.

The strategy of getting the examinations set aside didn't work. Sometimes to choose a path of concealment causes so much more grief than just being a good officer of the court and being honourable.... then again, perhaps it doesn't pay as well, which is obviously a huge temptation for some personality types. Interestingly, these types seem to migrate towards insolvency as their preferred MO for making an income.
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No Trust said:
I'm sorry, but the term truth and McIvor just don't belong together.

McIvor put all these miscreants in their positions. He's to blame...

I'm sure McIvor will also push through the same info through his mate Vincent and the Meridien boys as he did in this instance...

Not that I'm complaining at all, it's just fun watching them destroy each other...

Watching train wreck's from a distance can be quite cathartic...
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You make a valid point "No Trust" - I suppose no one will ever understand why McIvor went down the road of appointing people against better advice. Perhaps a little smoke impaired from one of his sessions with the old man on the hill??? Perhaps it was greed? Or perhaps there remains a plot from left field that is still to surprise everybody? Time will tell..... I certainly would'nt be putting any of my money on the outcomes of any actions going forward, including the current matters involving Tucker.
 
"SpatialG" I don't think "McIvor" understands himself... That's why he started going to the old man on the hill in the first place... Right ? Lot of pain, past lives etc etc etc...

I'm told he was a far better man when seeing the "old man" on the hill and was on the road to redemption, until someone from his past entered his life again and he then got married.

All downhill from there I'm told... Yet the "old man" on the hill told McIvor that this would end in tears be it one year two years or 10 years... Did he listen ??? NO
 
As far as plots from left field, lets see... Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.

The actions against Tucker, Kennedy and Worrells are shear entertainment, anything else that comes of it is a bonus...

Watching Tucker try and stop the examinations in the Federal Court and failing made a lot of people laugh. Particularly those in the Brisbane Legal Fraternity...

It's akin to being put in the modern day Public Stocks and in stead of rotten fruit and vegetables being thrown at you, a lot of rotten questions he doesn't want to answer will be thrown by the Liquidators Counsel, who I'm assured have a basket full of those rotten questions to throw.


SpatialG said:
You make a valid point "No Trust" - I suppose no one will ever understand why McIvor went down the road of appointing people against better advice. Perhaps a little smoke impaired from one of his sessions with the old man on the hill??? Perhaps it was greed? Or perhaps there remains a plot from left field that is still to surprise everybody? Time will tell..... I certainly would'nt be putting any of my money on the outcomes of any actions going forward, including the current matters involving Tucker.
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If Tucker tried to withdraw his Superannuation prior to the administration, I'm sure this will be addressed during the public examination / humiliation next month...



SpatialG said:
Fair enough "No Trust" - and sometimes those horses won't eat the salt tablet either......

There were obvious behaviour traits and practices employed by McIvor that offsided parties at various levels of the board, industry and also the regulator (ASIC). So where does that leave us now? Tucker made all kinds of allegations against McIvor to achieve the outcome of having EquitiTrust placed into administration, and if rumours are true, he even attempted to withdraw his superannuation before this course of action. Contrast this to McIvor who reserved making judgement against those allegations in the supreme court, suggesting all will be revealed in the fullness of time. Perhaps, that is close to the truth, given what we are finding out through discovery proceedings of examinable affairs.

Notwithstanding both men's approach to business, it will be interesting to see if the evidence that washes up ultimately facilitates litigation opportunities in the interests of the unitholders. Should this ever come to fruition, it would be intriguing to know where the move would come from in much the same way as the surprise evidence Russell's managed to come up with to force the current examinations.
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No Trust said:
As far as plots from left field, lets see... Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.

The actions against Tucker, Kennedy and Worrells are shear entertainment, anything else that comes of it is a bonus...

Watching Tucker try and stop the examinations in the Federal Court and failing made a lot of people laugh. Particularly those in the Brisbane Legal Fraternity...

It's akin to being put in the modern day Public Stocks and in stead of rotten fruit and vegetables being thrown at you, a lot of rotten questions he doesn't want to answer will be thrown by the Liquidators Counsel, who I'm assured have a basket full of those rotten questions to throw.
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Your'e a funny man "No Trust" - I respect the amount of research you have done over the years on this matter. I'm sure just as litigation funding became available to open up the examination process, more will become available based on new evidence - but perhaps I'm just hopeful.....
 
All those involved are now in shear panic mode... Trying to stop examinations etc, but to no avail...

I have an inkling that more evidence, will drop just before the examination... Coincidence of course... wink wink nudge nugde...

SpatialG said:
Your'e a funny man "No Trust" - I respect the amount of research you have done over the years on this matter. I'm sure just as litigation funding became available to open up the examination process, more will become available based on new evidence - but perhaps I'm just hopeful.....
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Other trick, stress... Pull an extended sickie... All means could be deployed to avoid a public Examination / Humiliation...
 
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