Embarrassingly Stupid Americans

[chops_a_must]

I wonder if she is in the 5% :

I don't know, but she could be a sandpaper Sally:

lateral position netting may reduce liquidity risks

You'd hate to invest $1,000 in her for an hour, only to find out she was illiquid.

 

[wayneL]

I don't know, but she could be a sandpaper Sally:

You'd hate to invest $1,000 in her for an hour, only to find out she was illiquid.

Hahahaha! That is in the 5% of risque' double entendre.

 

[xyzedarteerf]

i personally believe US Americans...

 

[cuttlefish]

"everyone like such as I believe that the US education over here ..." (as opposed to the US education over there lol)

That was hilarious and scary at the same time.

 

[2020hindsight]

... the words of Dr Joseph Mercola, whom many of you would be familiar with. ...

1. Embarrassingly Stupid Americans -- One in Five Believes Sun Revolves Around Earth

2. The title of this article, that an embarrassingly high number of Americans believe that the sun revolves around the Earth, is only one point argued by the Washington Post’s Susan Jacoby, in her attempt to prove that Americans are in serious intellectual trouble, facing a virulent mixture of anti-intellectualism, anti-rationalism and low expectations.

3. ...a good portion of the population is saying, “We know we’re ignorant, but we don’t care!”

4. ... nearly half of young Americans did not think it was necessary to know the location of other countries in which important news was being made. And another one-third felt it was “not at all important” to know a foreign language.

5. Why is this so concerning? Because … Fear and Ignorance Go Hand in Hand

.... the easier you are to manipulate.

... Well, it is my goal to help create a fundamental paradigm shift in people’s consciousness about health, and also about empowerment.

1. I'll come back to that
2. anti-rationalism - I'll come back to that too lol
3. terrifying
4. even more terrifying - xenophobic, intolerant of multiculturalism
5. so easy to manipuplate - hence possibly the ease of signing up GI's from the ghettos (not renowned as the best places to grow up if you want an education).

1. I'm guessing that 12 out of 12 of the Disciples thought that as well - and so too did JC, and so too did the Pope as recently as the early 1600's.
2. Richard thingo (forget his name, starts with D ) has been saying the same thing for a while now. : 2twocents

PS As for Aussies, how dumb are they lol - some still think that Joh and Hinze weren't corrupt

 

[Santob]

1. I'm guessing that 12 out of 12 of the Disciples thought that as well - and so too did JC, and so too did the Pope as recently as the early 1600's.

I suspect that the Pope (should it be Popeses') had an inkling against the world being flat even back in 1494 when the Treaty of Tordesillas was signed. If not then, then certainly by 1529 when this was what was agreed upon:

And apologies for raising the bar of the Average American with this post.

 

[2020hindsight]

I suspect that the Pope (should it be Popeses') had an inkling against the world being flat even back in 1494 when the Treaty of Tordesillas was signed. If not then, then certainly by 1529 when this was what was agreed upon:

Santob - howdy.
world flat ? - mm maybe the Popes suspected that it was round - (but not the Disciples surely)
sun goes round the Earth? - m8 - it says so in the Bible! - must be right

Western Christian biblical references Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, and 1 Chronicles 16:30 include text stating that "the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved." In the same tradition, Psalm 104:5 says, "the LORD set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." Further, Ecclesiastes 1:5 states that "And the sun rises and sets and returns to its place, etc."[63]

and Galileo was imprisoned for daring to say otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

Galileo was ordered to stand trial on suspicion of heresy in 1633. The sentence of the Inquisition was in three essential parts:

a) Galileo was required to abjure the opinion that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, and that the Earth is not at its centre and moves; the idea that the Sun is stationary was condemned as "formally heretical." However, while there is no doubt that Pope Urban VIII and the vast majority of Church officials did not believe in heliocentrism, heliocentrism was never formally or officially condemned by the Catholic Church, except insofar as it held (for instance, in the formal condemnation of Galileo) that "The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures", and the converse as to the Sun's not revolving around the Earth.[65]

b) He was ordered imprisoned; the sentence was later commuted to house arrest.

c) His offending Dialogue was banned; and in an action not announced at the trial, publication of any of his works was forbidden, including any he might write in the future

Others around the same time were burned at the stake for saying what Galileo had said - that the Earth moved round the Sun.

On 31 October 1992, Pope John Paul II expressed regret for how the Galileo affair was handled, and officially conceded that the Earth was not stationary, as the result of a study conducted by the Pontifical Council for Culture

PS Magellan's crew made it back after the first circumnavigation - in 1522 (Magellan himself was killed in the Philippines)
so sure - they knew absolutely it was round then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Magellan

Of the 240 crew members who set out with Magellan to circumnavigate the earth, only 18 completed the circumnavigation of the globe and managed to return to Spain in 1522.[1][2

 

[chops_a_must]

I suspect that the Pope (should it be Popeses') had an inkling against the world being flat even back in 1494 when the Treaty of Tordesillas was signed. If not then, then certainly by 1529 when this was what was agreed upon:

And apologies for raising the bar of the Average American with this post.

There's reason to believe that most authorities did indeed believe in a spherical earth from the appropriately named helenistic times, and that the flat earth belief was more a function of story telling and map making.

After all, what did Atlas carry on his shoulders?

Cheers.

 

[2020hindsight]

Thought I'd better post one to "balance things up a bit" - show that a stack have a great sense of humour - try to get teachers in Aus to help make an ad like this lol (then again - who knows)

Bud Light Swear Jar (Mohawk Version)

 

[2020hindsight]

There's reason to believe that most authorities did indeed believe in a spherical earth from the appropriately named helenistic times, and that the flat earth belief was more a function of story telling and map making.

After all, what did Atlas carry on his shoulders?

Cheers.

PS Chops
That's the Ball of the Heavens he has on his shoulders - you'll see the constellations there - but no biggie.

You've got me thinking - does anyone know when the first sculpture of a round earth was made?

The TItan Atlas bears the ball of heaven, inscribed with the heavenly constellations

PS In fact it reads that the Greeks believed the earth was flat....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)

Atlas, along with his brother Menoetius, sided with the Titans in their war against the Olympians, the Titanomachy. His brothers Prometheus and Epimetheus weighed the odds and betrayed the other Titans by forming an alliance with the Olympians. When the Titans were defeated , many of them (including Menoetius) were confined to Tartarus, but Zeus condemned Atlas to stand at the western edge of the Gaia, the Earth and hold up Ouranos, the Sky on his shoulders, to prevent the two from resuming their primordial embrace. Thus he was Atlas Telamon, "enduring Atlas".
.....

A common misconception is that Atlas was forced to hold the earth on his shoulders, but this is incorrect. Classical art shows Atlas holding a Celestial Sphere, not a Globe.

But you're right - this is one old sculpture (2nd century sheesh)

PS Great title that Ayn Rand chose for one of her books ... "Atlas Shrugged"

 

[2020hindsight]

Thought I'd better post one to "balance things up a bit" - show that a stack have a great sense of humour - try to get teachers in Aus to help make an ad like this lol (then again - who knows)

tackling binge drinking by getting kids to identify with drinking Light ? - maybe they're onto something

 

[chops_a_must]

PS Chops
That's the Ball of the Heavens he has on his shoulders - you'll see the constellations there - but no biggie.

You've got me thinking - does anyone know when the first sculpture of a round earth was made?



PS In fact it reads that the Greeks believed the earth was flat....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)



But you're right - this is one old sculpture (2nd century sheesh)

PS Great title that Ayn Rand chose for one of her books ... "Atlas Shrugged"

I haven't read anywhere that says the Greeks believed the Earth to be flat. I had always read that Atlas held up the sky, but anyway, must have known something if they thought the sky was spherical.

The Myth of the Flat Earth or Flat Earth mythology refers to the modern belief that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical. Today it is widely recognized among professional medievalists and historians of science that the "medieval flat Earth" is a misconception, and that the few verifiable "flat Earthers" of the period were the exception.

As is expressed by Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of “flat earth darkness” among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth’s roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[1] David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers also write: "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference."[2]

In 1945 the Historical Association listed "Columbus and the Flat Earth Conception" second of 20 in its first-published pamphlet on common errors in history.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_mythology

Cheers.

 

[2020hindsight]

thanks m8 - interesting

I still think that to have a "western edge" Earth can't have been SPherical - but whatever...

but Zeus condemned Atlas to stand at the western edge of the Gaia, the Earth and hold up Ouranos, the Sky on his shoulders,

btw, the first post of this thread claimed that 20% of Americans allegedly believe the Sun goes round the Earth. - no question or argument that Galileo was imprisoned for saying otherwise yes?

PS I wonder how long the modern Americans were given to answer, or if they were just "playing Irish" to piss the "opinion survey person" off . :

 

[2020hindsight]

Bud Light Swear Jar (Mohawk Version)

:topic reminds me of this old cartoon - swear jar - (pretty appropriate it is in my case as well lol)

 

[jman2007]

In case any of you missed this in the ASF joke thread...

Well here it is again, it's a good one...

 

[phoenix_gr]

Take out "Americans" and insert "Generation Y" and the article (almost) reads true as well.

And which generation are you pray tell?