Elon Musk to make Twitter a free speech platform

[moXJO]

Going to be awesome when we end up in a C40 city with you flogs arguing the benefits of our enforced vegetarian diet and calorie restrictions (yep its a real thing Planetary Health Diet)and compulsory evs. We become basically farm animals herded like sheep.

Oh before I get "nonsense" go study up C40 cities and for where the WEF want to push the world. Don't worry too much though as Sydney and Melbourne already joined up.

Every right is important at this stage.

 

[JohnDe]

I'd like to know why the government & the eSafety Commission have banned a factual news item but ignore the pornography industry -

"Criminologists say leaders must be prepared to take a wider view of domestic violence prevention when the national cabinet convenes for an urgent meeting today. With over 6,000 supporters, Daniel Principe is urging the Australian government to enforce age verification on pornography sites, with the aim of shielding children from early exposure to explicit content."​

Urgent: Stop Child Access to Pornography - Demand Age Verification for Pornography Sites​

We, the undersigned, stand united in an impassioned plea for the safety and well-being of our nation’s children. In the digital age, where explicit content is just a click away, we cannot remain indifferent to the alarming over-sexualization of our youth.

We believe that it is high time our government takes a resolute stand against this grave issue by instituting age verification for pornography sites. This is not merely a suggestion; it is a call to action borne out of love, concern, and the unwavering commitment to safeguarding our children’s innocence.

The Problem
Our children are growing up in a world where explicit content is shockingly accessible. Despite the valiant efforts of parents, guardians, and educators, the allure of the internet can be overwhelming. Without effective age verification measures, it becomes distressingly easy for curious young minds to stumble upon harmful and inappropriate material, leading to potential lasting negative impacts on their mental and emotional well-being.

The Urgent Solution
By implementing mandatory age verification for all pornography websites, the Australian government will take a crucial step towards protecting our children from the harmful influences of explicit content. This verification process will require individuals to prove their age before gaining access to these sites, serving as a vital barrier that safeguards the innocence of our young ones.

Moreover, it is essential to emphasize that age verification does not infringe upon the rights of adults who choose to access legal pornography. This measure is vital to ensure privacy, security, and the freedom of choice while prioritizing child safety.

The Call to Action
We, the concerned citizens of Australia, call upon our government to swiftly enact legislation that makes age verification mandatory for all pornography websites. We urge policymakers to collaborate with internet industry leaders and experts to develop robust and effective age verification technologies that can be implemented without compromise.

https://www.change.org/p/urgent-sto...&utm_source=aa_augmented_sign_ask&utm_term=cs

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[JohnDe]

 

[moXJO]

All crime has been trending down. Sexual assault has seen a blip from .4 to .5%.
Unless you have data on offenders it could be put down to a number of things. One of them being reports taken seriously by police, or immigrants adjusting to our laws.

But the overall trend is down by a lot of the last decade. The idea we get to zero% crime is ridiculous and would involve massively intrusive laws.

Ban stuff off the net isn't going to change anything. It's been the most open and divisive the last decade and all crime is still trending down.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/crime-and-justice/crime-victimisation/latest-release

 

[JohnDe]

Have I got this right, parts of our government, bureaucracy and universities want the incident of the stabbing of a Christian priest banned but the causes can be left to fester?

Fair comment -

"What is so interesting about the whole Israel - Hamas issue is how it has totally exposed the hypocrisy of academia, and the woke left generally. For years they have been virtue-signaling their support of anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-misogynism, anti-transphobia etc. However, the moment a TRULY fascist, racist, misogynistic, trans-phobic organisation deliberately targets innocent civilians, women, young girls, and children (including at a Peace Festival!!) in Israel, then the woke left throw all their other ideals out the window and support the terrorists. It is unbelievable. It paints their ideology in stark colours for all to see. Their wokism is not some loving warm embrace of kindness for people, but the same old Marxist resentment and hatred of all their usual targets, including Jews. It beggars' belief that we have to fight this battle against it again. How many tens of millions of lives will be lost this century before we learn (again) that this is NOT the path to some glorious utopian future but to an utterly devastating civilisational wasteland."​

Academic Randa Abdel Fattah brands critics ‘white supremacists’ over her anti-Israeli activism​

Anti-Israel activist Dr Randa Abdel-Fattah has attacked her critics as “white supremacists’’, and vowed to fight to keep her $837,174 taxpayer-funded research grant.

Dr Abdel-Fattah – who posted an image of a Palestinian parachutist as her Facebook cover photo the day after Hamas terrorists parachuted into Israel to murder and kidnap hundreds of civilians on October 7 last year – is being investigated by her employer, Macquarie University, over her anti-Israeli activism.

Dr Abdel-Fattah led a protest of school students at the rival University of Sydney campus last Friday, when children as young as five could be heard chanting “intifada’’ and “Israel is a terrorist state’’.

Federal Opposition education spokeswoman Senator Sarah Henderson is demanding the federal government cancel Dr Abdel-Fattah’s Australian Research Council (ARC) grant of $837,174, awarded in 2022 for a four-year research project, Arab/Muslim Australian Social Movements since the 1970s: a hidden history.

Federal Education Minister Jason Clare is refusing to intervene, and Dr Abdel-Fattah used social media on Tuesday to defend her taxpayer grant.

“When Zionists demand my fellowship be cancelled, they are purposefully targeting me and the next generation of Arab and Muslim women academics,’’ she wrote on X.

“They see to eliminate us from the academy because our voices, knowledge production and impact threaten the White supremacist status quo they so desperately seek to maintain.

“They grossly underestimate me.

“White supremacists are cowards who slink around corridors of power and throw matches at the grassroots.

“But they can never match our spirit and power.

“They burn down. We just keep rising and growing.’’

Senator Henderson has written to Mr Clare demanding that he cancel Dr Abdel-Fattah’s research grant, on the grounds of her conduct.

She said Dr Abdel-Fattah had co-hosted the kids’ excursion to the University of Sydney last Friday, leading very young children to chant anti-Israel and anti-Jewish slogans.

“This indoctrination of children not only fuels anti-Jewish hatred but puts the wellbeing of these children at risk,’’ she wrote.

“Australian taxpayers should not be funding such activism and hate speech under the guise of so-called research.’’

Mr Clare yesterday criticised the involvement of school children at the pro-Palestinian rallies.

“It is never okay to fill kids’ minds with hate,’’ he said.

“There is no place for hate in our universities or anywhere else and it’s never okay to involve kids in things like this.

“There is no place in our country for antisemitism, Islamophobia or racism of any kind.

“Students and staff must feel and be safe on campus.’’

 

[moXJO]

Sexual assault is wrong in my above post the trend is up.

 

[JohnDe]

Could this be why the government is distracting us?

"This is not the first time that foreign fights have seeped into Australian politics and it’s not the first time that religious activists have influenced our public life. But it is the first time in our history that religious pressure has been put on our leaders to take a position that’s at odds with our national interests and our national values.​

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"Labor frontbenchers, such as Tony Burke and Jason Clare (whose electorates are more than 30 per cent Muslim), failed to condemn unequivocally the October 7 atrocities, have supported local councils flying the Palestinian flag and have told local Muslims that they’re advocating for them in cabinet. The Albanese government only briefly suspended aid to the UN agency active in Gaza, despite clear evidence that much of it has been channelled to Hamas and that staff were involved in the October 7 killings.​

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Anthony Albanese was very slow to make a solidarity call to his Israeli counterpart after October 7, despite the terrorist murder of an elderly Australian, but was almost immediately in critical contact when an Israeli drone strike mistakenly killed an Australian aid worker."​

Nation’s foreign policy is being driven by minority influence

In a new and disturbing first, immigrant communities are now driving Australia’s foreign policy in ways that are at odds with the national interest.

The Albanese government’s changing policy towards the Middle East is the result of pressure from Muslim activists. There are now three websites, which this paper reports are “circulating among political and community circles”, seeking to mobilise the country’s almost one million Muslims to use their local voting power to force the government to change Australia’s long-held and previously bipartisan support for Israel as the only liberal, pluralist democracy in the Middle East.

This was most memorably expressed in Bob Hawke’s immortal statement that if the bell tolls for Israel, it tolls for all mankind.


Sky News host Chris Kenny has expressed disgust at how children cheered for intifada at a Sydney University… pro-Palestinian protest on the weekend. “Kids cheering for Intifada? That is cheering for armed uprising, that is kids chanting for the type of conduct that led to terrorist attacks against Israeli More

Labor frontbenchers, such as Tony Burke and Jason Clare (whose electorates are more than 30 per cent Muslim), failed to condemn unequivocally the October 7 atrocities, have supported local councils flying the Palestinian flag and have told local Muslims that they’re advocating for them in cabinet. The Albanese government only briefly suspended aid to the UN agency active in Gaza, despite clear evidence that much of it has been channelled to Hamas and that staff were involved in the October 7 killings.

Anthony Albanese was very slow to make a solidarity call to his Israeli counterpart after October 7, despite the terrorist murder of an elderly Australian, but was almost immediately in critical contact when an Israeli drone strike mistakenly killed an Australian aid worker.
Worst of all, our Foreign Minister has called for the recognition of Palestine even though this would reward the apocalyptic death cult that has been running Gaza.

This is not the first time that foreign fights have seeped into Australian politics and it’s not the first time that religious activists have influenced our public life. But it is the first time in our history that religious pressure has been put on our leaders to take a position that’s at odds with our national interests and our national values. And this eruption of ethnic politics into what’s best for Australia should be a reminder that migration doesn’t just build the country; it can change it, too, sometimes in unwelcome directions.

Former Prime Minister Bob Hawke leaves leave the funeral for former Govenor-General Sir Zelman Cowen. Picture: AAP Image/Julian Smith

It’s hardly surprising that cultural roots should play a part in people’s contemporary attitudes. Think Irish Australians and the 1916 conscription debates and the involvement of the Catholic hierarchy in the anti-communist campaigns in the union movement of the 1940s, later playing out in the ALP split in 1955. What’s new now, though, is this unabashed appeal to a transcendent religious loyalty, with partisans in a foreign quarrel trying to drive a change to our national policy.

Exhibit one is the Muslim Votes Matter website: “The Muslim community,” it declares, “is the largest and among the fastest growing minority groups in Australia. Our collective voting bloc is the most valuable, yet under-utilised asset we have.” Muslim Votes Matter aims to unlock “this highly influential tool”, as the website call it, in the “over 20 (federal parliamentary) seats where the Muslim community collectively has the potential deciding vote”. That may not sound like much, says the website, but “in the last 25 years no federal government has been elected by a margin of more than 15 seats”.

It specifies 32 federal seats (all bar two currently Labor held) where Muslim votes “have the potential to move the needle” and for each one shows the Muslim vote against the seat’s margin.

Unsurprisingly, the MVM website claims discrimination against Australian Muslims, complaining that “Islamophobes” have protested against the opening of mosques and declaring that Australian Muslims “have had enough” and “will no longer tolerate bias and veiled racism”.

Harnessing religious solidarity with Marxist militant minority tactics, and cleverly pitched to culturally adrift adolescents and young adults, the aim is to have the 4 per cent of voters who are Muslim change the national position, not just on Palestine but “on a broad range of issues … which resonate most with the Australian Muslim community”.

Minister for Education, Jason Clare. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

The most critical, of course, is “Australia’s foreign policy response to the growing atrocities in Gaza”. “A more engaged Muslim voter base,” says the website, “benefits all Australians, and in particular those from under-represented and disadvantaged backgrounds.” Even though the website also claims to be politically independent and “solely dedicated to serving the best interests of the Muslim community in Australia”.

Then there’s My Vote Matters, a website run by the Islamic Council of Victoria that says it has “run four successful campaigns”. It says 70 per cent of Muslims are “extremely” or “very concerned” about right-wing extremism and 82 per cent of Muslims think their political representatives “don’t care” about Islamophobia. Its 2022 Victorian election scorecard heavily preferred the Greens and Labor over the Coalition.

Pro-palestine protestors march in Sydney in support of a cease fire in Gaza. Picture: NCA NewsWire / David Swift

As well there’s The Muslim Vote, urging Muslims to vote in accordance with MPs’ position on the “genocide” in Palestine. Those stated to have shown “support for Palestine” include Labor’s Ed Husic, Graham Perrett, Tony Zappia, Julian Hill, Maria Vamvakinou and Anne Aly. The “our campaign is backed by” section of the website merely says “coming soon”, although it also says “our supporting organisations enjoy the support of hundreds of thousands of Muslims”.

Muslim leaders and community organisations are not the only recent immigrant groups seeking to change Australian government policy and, sometimes, foster grievances against broader Australian society. A decade or so back, the local Indian community felt not enough was being done to protect Indian students against attacks by gangs. There are various “united front” groups active inside the Australian Chinese community in support of Beijing that were thought to have used their influence strongly against the Morrison government, particularly in online Chinese language spaces.

Leader of the House Tony Burke. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

What’s striking, though, in this push by Muslim leaders to change Australia’s policy on the Middle East is that there’s no attempt to appeal to Australia’s long-term national interest. It’s taken for granted that what matters most is local Muslims’ solidarity with their fellow Muslims abroad.

Australia’s Muslim leaders (and also much of their communities), it seems, aren’t thinking as Australians who happen to be Muslims but as Muslims who happen to reside in Australia. If they were thinking as Australians, there would be at least as much emphasis on the return of the hostages as on an immediate ceasefire. Perhaps this is to be expected given Islam’s lack of any notion of the separation of church and state and its “death to the infidels” instinct that many local leaders seem to be playing up rather than down.

Most troubling has been the pressure put on politicians and law enforcement to change the language on Islamist terrorism: first to drop any mention of “Islamist” and call it “religiously motivated extremist violence”, and now, as advocated by an alliance of peak Islamic groups, to drop any mention of religion at all and refer to it as ”politically motivated extremist violence”.

Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel. Picture: Supplied

Even when the teenagers arrested in connection with the stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel quote the Koran and have images idolising Osama bin Laden. Coupled with the hate speech spewing from influential mosques and websites, we can’t pretend away the links between radical Islamist theology and terrorism.

Right now, at 765,900 last year, immigration is far too high. It is depressing wages, boosting housing costs and clogging infrastructure. And without a much greater stress on the importance of migrants joining Team Australia, we’re at risk of importing all the troubles of the wider world, of which the Gaza conflict is just the most obvious immediate example.

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[JohnDe]

Interesting -

Weeks before Julie Inman Grant took action against X (previously Twitter) over footage of the stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel in western Sydney, Australia’s eSafety Commissioner curiously issued the social media giant with a take-down order over a tweet “misgendering” an Australian transgender activist.

As the author of the tweet, Canadian activist Chris Elston — better known as “Billboard Chris” sees it, it was “not my nicest tweet ever, but technically accurate,” and in the context of all the vile content available on the internet, rather benign.

Currently visiting Australia to campaign against what he views as the “irreversible harming” of gender dysphoric children through the use of puberty blockers, hormones and surgery, Mr Elston told The Australian he found the eSafety Commissioner’s action against X regarding both his tweet and footage of the stabbing as “absurd” and “politically motivated”.

The social media giant — owned by billionaire Elon Musk — is pursuing action against the eSafety Commissioner in the Federal Court, while Mr Elston, represented by the Free Speech Union of Australia, is appealing Ms Inman Grant’s decision via the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

Mr Elston’s tweet, which is geo-blocked in Australia but remains visible to the rest of the world, related to Sydney-based World Health Organisation transgender health adviser and community health director at LGBTIQ+ organisation ACON, Teddy Cook.

Cook, who has not responded to a request for comment, was born with two X chromosomes, but has undergone surgery and hormone treatment and identifies as male.

Mr Elston’s tweet linked to a February Daily Mail article which made reference to Cook’s use of private social media accounts to post material relating to bestiality, public nudity, bondage parties and transgender orgies, as well as the transgender activist’s contribution to a 2022 paper in the International Journal of Transgender health, which found transgender people were more likely to enjoy sex while “using illicit drugs.”

“This woman (yes, she’s female), is part of a panel of 20 ‘experts’ hired by the @WHO to draft their policy on caring for ‘trans people.’ People who belong in psychiatric wards are writing the guidelines for people who belong in psychiatric wards,“ Mr Elston’s tweet read.

“(It was) not my nicest tweet ever, but technically accurate, and I don’t mean that to say all trans-identified people belong in psychiatric wards, especially kids,” Mr Elston said.

“These kids are lost and confused and they’re being lied to, but there are clearly psychiatric issues, and as per all the scientific evidence, the children who end up in these gender clinics are struggling with various mental health comorbidities.”

Transgender activist Teddy Cook. Picture: Instagram

Mr Elston said guidelines for gender dysphoric children should not be written by activists like Cook, but by people like the British physician Dr Hilary Cass, whose recent landmark review of that country’s policy found a “lack of high-quality evidence” for the use of puberty blockers and hormones in treating minors.

In late March, weeks after tweeting about Cook, the Vancouver-based former financial adviser, who has more than 400,000 followers on X, received a message from the social media giant, notifying him of a “removal notice” from the Australian eSafety Commissioner, requiring X to “remove cyber-abuse material targeted at an Australian adult”.

A delegate for the eSafety Commission indicated a complaint had been received from Cook, which the commission was upholding on the basis that the tweet “is likely to cause serious harm to the complainant … because the material misgenders the complainant” in a “deliberate” manner “likely intended to invalidate and mock the complainant’s gender identity”.

The commission also indicated that it viewed the tweet as “equating transgender identity with a psychiatric condition”, and ordered X to take it down, or face a fine of up to $782,500.

Mr Elston said his first reaction to the notice was to find it “hilarious”, before becoming concerned about what he believes are political motivations behind it.

Australia's eSafety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

Cook has previously featured alongside Ms Inman Grant in eSafety commission press releases, having been consulted by the government body in 2022 regarding resources it produced “to help the LGBTIQ+ community safely navigate the online world.”

Mr Elston said he regarded the relationship between the two as “certainly” representing a conflict of interest.

It is also not the first time the eSafety commission has taken action over tweets relating to similar issues, ordering in 2023 that X take down a tweet from Sydney mother and breastfeeding advocate Jasmine Sussex, which expressed the view that using hormones to induce breastfeeding in biological men is an “unethical medical experiment”.

“There was no profanity or anything like that in her tweet or mine. I think it’s absurd (to order they be taken down),” Mr Elston said.

“How do you have some unelected bureaucrat determining, unilaterally, what is acceptable speech or not? The line that we cross should be incitement to violence. Criticism, especially of a public official, should not be reason to take something down, and when you read the eSafety legislation itself, hurt feelings are not cause for taking down tweets.”

The office of the eSafety Commission is not commenting on its orders against X while the matter is before the courts.

Canadian activist "Billboard Chris" Elston outside Victorian opposition leader John Pesutto's office.

Mr Elston, who began campaigning in response to the backlash against British author JK Rowling for her views on transgender issues in 2020, and funds his travel via donations, said he had already booked his trip to Melbourne and Sydney “before all this drama,” but that the release of the Cass review highlighted the global implications of the issue.

“To say that the Cass review doesn’t affect or doesn’t have an impact or isn’t relatable to what’s going on here in Australia is totally ridiculous. Are children’s endocrine systems different in Australia?” he said.

“Is their psychology somehow different in Australia? Of course not.

“The positive message we should always be sending is that children are beautiful just as they are. They don’t need drugs and hormones to be their true selves. We should leave them alone and let them grow up … we shouldn’t be teaching them that there’s such a thing as being born wrong, because that’s also an ideology, and it’s very damaging psychologically.”

While in Melbourne, Elston has used a billboard stating “children cannot consent to puberty blockers” to spark conversations with passers by at Federation Square and the University of Melbourne, filming the interactions and posting them on social media.

He has also met with Libertarian Party MP David Limbrick and expelled Liberal MP Moira Deeming, denouncing Ms Deeming’s expulsion from the Liberal Party over her attendance at a “Let Women Speak” rally which was gatecrashed by neo-Nazis as “completely outrageous”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/esafety-commissioners-war-on-misgendering-tweet/news-story/92a74e73508e0443471a945811c2111f

 

[orr]

Orr "One Crowded Hour" by Tim Bowden good read.

In NSW police attend around 500 DV events every day.

Victorian police are arresting 80 men a day over family violence.

YouthMy crime using knives is common.

And here we are advocating showing gratuitous violence in violation of Australia's broadcasting standards which have been developed over decades.

Research is endless on the effects of exposing particularly children and young men to this sort of content.

Anyone spot the problem here.

My problem is I keep forgeting the 'rules of engagment ' as applies to these forums.
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*First you make your cockhanded, unsupportable or overblown assertion.. and then repeat it.
*Then being exposed as blowing off both your feet with your own Blunderbus....make note of Blunder. ..
*You then declare victory and hoble away on the stumps. .... 'werks evry tyme"

I had Bowden's chearful, curly receading visage in my minds eye when I was thinking of Neil Davis... the good die young, or are shot dead... What was that girls name who was targeted by the IDF...Shireen Abu Akleh . everything old is new agian.
Bowden's book I've never read but remember his heart felt pieces to camera, and for good reason, at the time he was promoting it.

Cheers Focucs... Knowing that there's people out there that know stuff; it helps, a lot.

 

[StockyGuy]

Sexual assault is wrong in my above post the trend is up.

Maybe it is. Inclination to report is probably increasing over time, though: what used to be a matter of private shame is now an opportunity for "empowerment", telling "your" truth etc. But a government making a mountain out of a molehill is somewhere in the same family of strategies as a false flag - i.e. you create a big scary problem and the populace beg for their freedoms to be (permanently) diminished to deal with it.

 

[moXJO]

Maybe it is. Inclination to report is probably increasing over time, though: what used to be a matter of private shame is now an opportunity for "empowerment", telling "your" truth etc. But a government making a mountain out of a molehill is somewhere in the same family of strategies as a false flag - i.e. you create a big scary problem and the populace beg for their freedoms to be (permanently) diminished to deal with it.

It's trended from the "me too" years.
Increased reporting once it became mainstream.

 

[moXJO]

My problem is I keep forgeting the 'rules of engagment ' as applies to these forums.
***
*First you make your cockhanded, unsupportable or overblown assertion.. and then repeat it.
*Then being exposed as blowing off both your feet with your own Blunderbus....make note of Blunder. ..
*You then declare victory and hoble away on the stumps. .... 'werks evry tyme"

I had Bowden's chearful, curly receading visage in my minds eye when I was thinking of Neil Davis... the good die young, or are shot dead... What was that girls name who was targeted by the IDF...Shireen Abu Akleh . everything old is new agian.
Bowden's book I've never read but remember his heart felt pieces to camera, and for good reason, at the time he was promoting it.

Cheers Focucs... Knowing that there's people out there that know stuff; it helps, a lot.

It's a tough time for Chardonnay Commies.

 

[JohnDe]

It's a tough time for Chardonnay Commies.

Most of them think that the world revolves around their own BS, quote a few books and authors and saunter off with a tear or two about the injustices of history. Emotionally drunk with contempt of a life that makes them feel guilty, but too afraid to join a cause at ground level, their courage only goes as far as throwing verbal insults and threats at a society that has prospered for centuries.

 

[moXJO]

Interesting change of attack on social media by wannabe commies right now. Before the enemy was just "the right-wingers" now they are specifically naming "liberals" (as in freedom/rights not the party). Noticed it the last 3 weeks.

Obviously they all read from the same source or being pushed from the same template from head activists.

 

[JohnDe]

The Federal Court has made a preliminary decision -

A temporary order by Australia’s eSafety commissioner to block Australians from viewing footage of the alleged terrorist stabbing attack of Sydney bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel has been refused, in a win for tech giant X.​

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Barrister Bret Walker SC, representing X Corp with law firm Thomson Geer, told the court it would be a “matter of real concern” if the only way X could reasonably comply with a takedown order was to remove the content for users worldwide.​

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He said it was “remarkable” to consider “the only way to control what is available to end users in Australia … (is) to deny it to everybody on earth (the content).”​

Federal Court ends temporary block on Australians viewing bishop stabbing footage on X​

A temporary order by Australia’s eSafety commissioner to block Australians from viewing footage of the alleged terrorist stabbing attack of Sydney bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel has been refused, in a win for tech giant X.

In April, eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant ordered X (formerly Twitter) remove access to the video for Australian users, slapping the footage with a Class 1 classification, reserved for high-impact violent or child sex abuse material.

While X complied with a take-down notice, “geo-blocking” the content, Australian users with VPNs could still watch the attack on the platform and the tech company has refused to totally remove the footage from its platform.

In a brief court hearing on Monday morning, Federal Court Justice Geoffrey Kennett said: “In the this matter which I heard on Friday, the orders of the court will be that the application to extend the interlocutory injunction granted on the 22nd of April 2024, as extended on the 24th of April, is refused, and that the cost of the application are reserved.”

Sydney bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel was stabbed in a live-streamed attack last month.

His reasons for the decision will be available either later on Monday or on Tuesday.

In a hearing on Friday, barrister Tim Begbie KC, representing eSafety, told the court the material posted online showed “actual graphic and shocking moments of that attacker (allegedly) repeatedly and violently stabbing” the bishop.

The commission was pushing for the power to enforce global take-down orders, arguing worldwide censorship of offensive material is reasonable in light of the Australian parliament’s online safety legislation.

“This is not a proceeding about a free speech policy,” Mr Begbie said. “X Corp itself can and does take that stance (to make footage inaccessible) when it wishes to.”

He said “X’s position is a fairly striking one” and referred in its submissions to one of its policy statements that posts must “continue to flow”, evidencing X’s pro free speech stance.

Australia's eSafety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

Barrister Bret Walker SC, representing X Corp with law firm Thomson Geer, told the court it would be a “matter of real concern” if the only way X could reasonably comply with a takedown order was to remove the content for users worldwide.

He said it was “remarkable” to consider “the only way to control what is available to end users in Australia … (is) to deny it to everybody on earth (the content).”

Earlier, he said a statement of reasons supplied by the eSafety commissioner’s office in support of their take-down notices looked “informal” under the Administrative Appeals Tribunal Act.

“There are strong reasons to doubt the validity of the notice,” he said.

Mr Walker also pointed out Mar Mari Emmanuel did not want the footage to be removed from online.

Meanwhile, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) asked the Federal Court on Friday to allow them intervene in the high profile case between eSafety Commission and Elon Musk’s X Corp to advance arguments about whether or not the take-down notice should apply globally.

A further case management hearing is set for Wednesday.

 

[DB008]

Wow
https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1793666016704356735?t=YzSlwaTojli-njWs3Y0Yaw&s=09
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[JohnDe]

Wow
https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1793666016704356735?t=YzSlwaTojli-njWs3Y0Yaw&s=09
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I would like to read the link that you posted, but my cautious nature stops me from clicking any link that does not have an explanation or looks suss. Yours is both to me.

Care to say something about the link?

 

[DB008]

 

[DB008]

JUST IN - X says it is closing its "operation in Brazil" because leftist government officials threaten to arrest its staff.

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[moXJO]

JUST IN - X says it is closing its "operation in Brazil" because leftist government officials threaten to arrest its staff.

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Here's the authoritarians we were talking about in the fascism thread.