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I should have said OVERNIGHT.
Trump can now say he leads China in something.
The issue will be if US markets react tonight our time to a clear failure of policy to quash COVID-19 spread. By then there will be even more damning statistics.
Just be aware that there are about 200 million more cell phone accounts than there are people in China.No idea how credible this article is, but if there is some truth to it Trump still has alot to catch up on
https://www.breitbart.com/national-...-users-disappear-in-three-months-of-pandemic/
When the dust settles that timeline will be examined closely. Why was the US the first to shut down travel from China on Feb 1st and not the Chinese themselves prior? Patient zero can apparently be tracked back to early/mid December.China controls its internal affairs with an iron fist. But you have confused this with China meeting its international obligations and reporting an "unknown" disease when they realised they had something very different on their hands.
SARS & MERS only became transmissible a few days after the patient was showing severe symptoms. This was clearly not the case with Covid at the time.As to the WHO tweet, read it carefully and compare it with all its other advice. Note also that the WHO issued the same advice in relation to South Korea in January, so it was hardly playing favourites. The WHO did not say it was unnecessary to adopt public health measures in relation to travel and that's why South Korea adopted point of entry testing when they did.
Remember that it was not until well into February that the highly infectious nature of COVID-19 became apparent. Early advice was probably conditioned on the fact that previous corona viruses like SARS and MERS were not easily contractable.
First, the timeline will not change, so what will be examined?When the dust settles that timeline will be examined closely. Why was the US the first to shut down travel from China on Feb 1st and not the Chinese themselves prior? Patient zero can apparently be tracked back to early/mid December.
SARS & MERS only became transmissible a few days after the patient was showing severe symptoms. This was clearly not the case with Covid at the time.
Over 40 countries had restricted travel from China at the time of that tweet.
Once again wrong....There are widespread conspiracy theories that China hid this disease from the world. There is absolutely no evidence this is true. From advising WHO on 31 December 2019, and WHO immediately passing this on to all nations, South Korea by 3 January 2020 - yes, just 3 days later - had implemented quarantine and screening measures for travellers from Wuhan at their points of entry. Yet, despite full knowledge of COVID-19's high infection rate we had NSW letting passengers off cruise ships without health checks over 2 months later.
I also know little was occurring at our airports as on 7 March I collected my friend (returning from SE Asia) from Brisbane Airport. I mention the date because on 22 March I first discovered you could search flight numbers to see if anyone on a particular flight had subsequently tested positive. It turns out my friend sat in the exact same seat number as a person who did test positive and was on the same flight number the previous day. It may have been a different plane - I do not know. Clearly it was over 2 weeks ago and I have no health issues, and neither does my friend, who is an "essential services worker." Neither of us are young, so we sighed in relief.
Everyone knows the worst for us is yet to come. Some are saying we know we should have done x, y and z with the benefit of hindsight. Except that the advice of true experts in disease control is not being followed, and the obvious lessons of what has been shown to work overseas are not being adopted quickly and, in some cases, not at all.
Agreed that Qld seems somewhat less enthusiastic than others at least thus far.Really ? Qld included?
Perhaps, I guess it depends on whether it'll possible to find out what China knew and when they knew it... iron fist et all.COVID-19 seems able to spread widely asymtomatically, and this has not been the cases with previous corona viruses. This is a benefit of hindsight issue.
Agreed.The sad reality of hindsight is that while we were concentrating on the "known' - ie Wuhan - we completely dropped the ball on arrivals from all other countries.
There go the toilet paper manufacturers. Lol
The sad reality of hindsight is that while we were concentrating on the "known' - ie Wuhan - we completely dropped the ball on arrivals from all other countries.
From the great thread service by @bigdog NYSE Dow Jones finished today at:' along with great commentary we learn 3 straight days of gains! I am astounded by this the USA, are heading for horrendously cataclysmic numbers of deaths, which surely will smash the market again. I cannot understand that lack of foresight when these statistics are so easily for-seeable. Soon, maybe even Mondays numbers, may prove to be the worst in history. USA will be overtaking China Italy numbers at an unbelievable rate.I should have said OVERNIGHT.
Trump can now say he leads China in something.
The issue will be if US markets react tonight our time to a clear failure of policy to quash COVID-19 spread. By then there will be even more damning statistics.
From the great thread service by @bigdog NYSE Dow Jones finished today at:' along with great commentary we learn 3 straight days of gains! I am astounded by this the USA, are heading for horrendously cataclysmic numbers of deaths, which surely will smash the market again. I cannot understand that lack of foresight when these statistics are so easily for-seeable. Soon, maybe even Mondays numbers, may prove to be the worst in history. USA will be overtaking China Italy numbers at an unbelievable rate.
I've bought some shares but the intent is to trade the bounce.I am astounded by this the USA, are heading for horrendously cataclysmic numbers of deaths, which surely will smash the market again. I cannot understand that lack of foresight when these statistics are so easily for-seeable.
Noting sarcasim asideNah, Trumps doing great! America is showing the world how to do handle it! Even in Australia on the Trump thread you have people saying this.
You can't be serious, Knobby, have you seen this?And anyway, it's all China's fault and; as some in the USA media have stated; older people should be willing to risk losing their life to help the USA economy.
My suspicion is that even in January it would have been too late.If we'd firmly slammed the door shut on all arrivals from China, or anyone who had been to China in the past month, the moment Wuhan was locked down then we almost certainly wouldn't have this disaster that's unfolding right now.
on Queensland situation regarding schools:Agreed that Qld seems somewhat less enthusiastic than others at least thus far.
on Queensland situation regarding schools:
I quote:
Schools in Queensland will have no students from Monday - except for the children who do attend - as fears of a major cluster of coronavirus cases grow.
Really, I know I am not English as first language but what the hell is this type of recommendation?
They won't have students, just children ROL
I know they mean: closed unless you have no choice and we provide childcare support but still..
These are the people I have to trust to lead us across these tumultuous times, as the Left so proudly used to say:
Do not blame me, I did not vote for her
Noting sarcasim asideBeing the 1st to shut down travel from China deserves credit, no matter your opinion of the man. Possibly saved thousands.
You can't be serious, Knobby, have you seen this?
Source?
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