Economic implications of a SARS/Coronavirus outbreak

Smurf1976 said:

To actually achieve that is a generational thing.

Even just building this sort of thing can take 5 years, and that's after all the finances and so on are in place and it's ready to start physical work on site.

Then there's the reality that to set up manufacturing of x, you first need to have set up manufacturing of y and to set up y you first need need to set up z.

It took ~40 years to dismantle and it'll take much the same time to rebuild realistically.

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It would be interesting to know the effects of the withdrawal of vehicle manufacturing in this country, it wasn't just the body shells , a lot of component manufacturers must have gone bust too.

Smurf1976 said:

To actually achieve that is a generational thing.

Even just building this sort of thing can take 5 years, and that's after all the finances and so on are in place and it's ready to start physical work on site.

Then there's the reality that to set up manufacturing of x, you first need to have set up manufacturing of y and to set up y you first need need to set up z.

It took ~40 years to dismantle and it'll take much the same time to rebuild realistically.

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Fully agree, no quick fix, not to mention missing human skills...

SirRumpole said:

It would be interesting to know the effects of the withdrawal of vehicle manufacturing in this country, it wasn't just the body shells , a lot of component manufacturers must have gone bust too.

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Those component manufacturers that didn't go bust when car manufacturing stopped in Australia, are certainly going to find it difficult over the next 10 years, as E.V manufacturing increases and the number of ICE vehicles decreases.
100 years ago every town had a blacksmith, 30 years ago major towns had an engine reconditioning shop and small towns had a couple of garages that did recon engine replacement and radiators had copper/brass cores and tanks that could be soldered.
The world is changing and the rate of change is accelerating.

sptrawler said:

Those component manufacturers that didn't go bust when car manufacturing stopped in Australia, are certainly going to find it difficult over the next 10 years, as E.V manufacturing increases and the number of ICE vehicles decreases.
100 years ago every town had a blacksmith, 30 years ago major towns had an engine reconditioning shop and small towns had a couple of garages that did recon engine replacement and radiators had copper/brass cores and tanks that could be soldered.
The world is changing and the rate of change is accelerating.

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But it's all ok, we got baristas, NDIS helpers, Job search support companies and Team PR and media officers..all Good I say;
another little effort: ban meat and agriculture after obviously mining and we will live in Eden

sptrawler said:

Those component manufacturers that didn't go bust when car manufacturing stopped in Australia, are certainly going to find it difficult over the next 10 years, as E.V manufacturing increases and the number of ICE vehicles decreases.
100 years ago every town had a blacksmith, 30 years ago major towns had an engine reconditioning shop and small towns had a couple of garages that did recon engine replacement and radiators had copper/brass cores and tanks that could be soldered.
The world is changing and the rate of change is accelerating.

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Yes and people adapt to changing conditions. EVs are an opportunity not a threat but we have to get in quick or we will miss the bus. Ed Husic is making encouraging sounds about a local EV industry, cause for optimism

SirRumpole said:

Yes and people adapt to changing conditions. EVs are an opportunity not a threat but we have to get in quick or we will miss the bus. Ed Husic is making encouraging sounds about a local EV industry, cause for optimism

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They certainly do, I can't understand why we don't have more battery grade processing plants and even battery manufacturing plants.
It isn't as though the only batteries required will be for E.V's there will be a massive amount of static storage batteries required and they will require replacement and refurbishment.
Or is this another essential product we are going to source from China? As we have done with everything else.
Like I've said before, it was only in 2009 we closed down our solar panel manufacturing in Homebush NSW, they must have realised, "shut it down before it becomes profitable and relocate it in a cheap labour country, before people want to know why". ?
"But what about the subsidies? Don't worry about them, we will get them anyway. It is just we will make three times as much on the Chinese panels".
The clever country, that sharp we cut ourselves.