Does Reincarnation Exist? :)

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

Rafa,

Comments from you. Just highlighting as I see it.

Now as long as we can leave it at that, and not get you atheist preachers vehemently spreading your beliefs on this forum....

Atheists, as do beleivers in god through religions have a right to talk about their beliefs.

He has his belief, but is happy to accept that in the end, that is just it... someone's beliefs’. And each one is entitled to their own, irrespective of the logic behind it!

Can you accept Kennas' belief then?

You on the other hand, have been the one smashing the views of those who believe in religion and seem adamant to impose your point of view on others....

Are you not doing this?

I suggest you take a good hard look at yourself kennas and your motivation behind all your posts, both on this topic and on others... maybe you are an atheist preacher... I don't know, but you certainly come across as one...!

Not to throw fuel on the fire but isn`t this what you are doing? I enjoy Kennas' posts whether I agree or disagree.

Rafa I'm genuinly interested in your religion. Feel free to tell me. No pressure though.

Snake

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

nelly said:
Hi S.P.
.......I always thought I WAS a divine immortal creature..

Oh, ok. :blover:
John Smith

Sean K · 4 July 2006

Come on, no flirting! Maybe that's another thread.

nelly · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
Which challenge Nelly? Stock picking comp? Ok I think. I have DIO up about 10% I think

It's funny how we all assume that no 'soul' is a bad thing. How come? I think 'personality' is just as rich and interesting as a soul. And believing that the earth is intertwined and all that occurrs effects another is incredible. We are an amazing specimen and I look in wonder every day at human beings and nature and how it all coexists. Incredible. The amazing organic tapestry of life.

Hey Kennas..
'no soul' IS a bad thing... IMO.
It is what makes me, who I am, our personalities are an outward manifestation of our souls..IMHO
Do u think we/the earth/our solar system is here because of a collection of accidental happenings......
Do the maths...what do the numbers look like...{I wouldn't presume to know, but I would think it highly improbable]
Cheers... :alcohol:

Sean K · 4 July 2006

The numbers are 1 in 10 to the power of 100. That's a big number!

A very famous physicist called Paul Davies from Adelaide (of all places) won the equivalent of the Nobel Prise for religion a number of years ago for proving it statistically impossible for the earth to exist without a designer. This was probably the basis of ID, which is actually outlawed from most school curriculums.

Nevertheless, there is still a chance that it just happened by accident. Perhaps we'll find out in the next world!

Or when those pesky aliens decide to engage us and tell us about the rest of the universe!

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

nelly said:
Hey Kennas..
'no soul' IS a bad thing... IMO.
It is what makes me, who I am, our personalities are an outward manifestation of our souls..IMHO
Do u think we/the earth/our solar system is here because of a collection of accidental happenings......
Do the maths...what do the numbers look like...{I wouldn't presume to know, but I would think it highly improbable]
Cheers... :alcohol:

It`s funny you bring that up. I read some material about GOD and some believe the universe is one big computer, and we are all parts in it that is operated by some THING. The mind boggles at such an idea.

"The mind of God by Paul Davies" penguin books.

Rafa · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
Sorry you feel I'm preaching, just putting a point of view cross, which I feel has been pretty measured and politely constructed.

......

And to put the record straight, I am not an Atheist, nor probably a Agnostic. I am me. Exploring life for what it is and not relying on any single opinion to define myself or my beliefs.

No need to apologise, but you do sound you are preaching because you simply repeat the same old 'logic' arguement time and time and again... when all the questions we are dealing with are matters of Faith, not logic...

Religion and religious words are not about logical sense, they are about finding a way to live in harmony with other human beings.

If you really are what you say you are... i.e. exploring life for what it is.... allow me to suggest one thing....

FORGET ABOUT LOGIC!

Otherwise you'll end up a disconsolate grumpy old person cause not much in this world, let alone the universe makes any sense at all!

A classic example of this is the stock market itself... which is why we are on this forum... trying to make logical sense of it all....
If you are a technical analyst.... go with the trend!
If you are a fundamental anaylst... go where theres value....!

Whose right, Whose wrong.... who cares.... But let me repeat what WayneL said...

There is happiness in trying to do good (this is demonstrable). So whether at death we turn to dust, or live on as some sort of spirit, the human being should just try to do good and respect life....

and let me just add... respect others opinions, no matter how illogical they are.... it will indeed be a sad day if we all had the same opinions!

nelly · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
Come on, no flirting! Maybe that's another thread.

Hi ya all
Sorry .....couldn't help myself...S.P. left it wide open...... :couch

Sean K · 4 July 2006

Hey Rafa, I am actually quite a content and happy person.

And remember the thread is 'does reincarnation exist' which is not just a theological question. It's asking for a comment either way. I'm taking your dispised 'logic' approach. Logic says it probably doesn't. That's my point. Again, sorry. :

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

nelly said:
Hi ya all
Sorry .....couldn't help myself...S.P. left it wide open...... :couch

I'm happily married thanks.:aus:

Rafa · 4 July 2006

Snake....

Snake Pliskin said:
Rafa,
Atheists, as do beleivers in god through religions have a right to talk about their beliefs.
Can you accept Kennas' belief then?

Most certainly, I accept it, without agreeing with it of course.

Snake Pliskin said:
Are you not doing this?

Am I?

Snake Pliskin said:
Not to throw fuel on the fire but isn`t this what you are doing? I enjoy Kennas' posts whether I agree or disagree.

Rafa I'm genuinly interested in your religion. Feel free to tell me. No pressure though.

Snake

Precisely, we are all preachers of our point of view... its hypocritical to only call people with religious beliefs prechers! That is the point I am trying to make!

For the record, I am Christian.

nelly · 4 July 2006

Snake Pliskin said:
It`s funny you bring that up. I read some material about GOD and some believe the universe is one big computer, and we are all parts in it that is operated by some THING. The mind boggles at such an idea.

That was on a re-run of Dr Who.. :twak:

nelly · 4 July 2006

Snake Pliskin said:
I'm happily married thanks.:aus:

Hi ya S.P.
[Tongue in cheek]....oh male ego is a weird and wonderful thing...it was Kennas comment about the flirting......love ya

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

Rafa,

For the record, I am Christian

..a Christian. For the record I don`t judge you any differently.

Regards
Snake

Rafa · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
Hey Rafa, I am actually quite a content and happy person.

And remember the thread is 'does reincarnation exist' which is not just a theological question. It's asking for a comment either way. I'm taking your dispised 'logic' approach. Logic says it probably doesn't. That's my point. Again, sorry. :

I never doubted that you weren’t content or happy.... My point was that if you continue to base all your decisions on logic, then there is a good chance you won't be in the future.... nothing logical about human behaviour that’s for sure.

On the topic of the thread.... Yes, I don't think re-incarnation exists either, my opinion is based on faith rather than logic.

However, I am certainly not going to try and prove that re-incarnation doesn't exist, just as I don't wish to prove that heaven does/doesn't exist, GOD does/doesn't exist, etc...

And I certainly don't intend on writing logical theorems to prove my opinion one way or another and try and convince people that I am right/wrong!

PS: Thanks Snake

It's Snake Pliskin · 4 July 2006

nelly said:
Hi ya S.P.
[Tongue in cheek]....oh male ego is a weird and wonderful thing...it was Kennas comment about the flirting......love ya

Yes but I am very good looking and have a ... t snake.

You can flirt with me anytime Nelly. Actually I was being silly, no intentions at all.

Read Paul Davies book the mind of God. Dr Who is a legend.

nelly · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
The numbers are 1 in 10 to the power of 100. That's a big number!

A very famous physicist called Paul Davies from Adelaide (of all places) won the equivalent of the Nobel Prise for religion a number of years ago for proving it statistically impossible for the earth to exist without a designer. This was probably the basis of ID, which is actually outlawed from most school curriculums.

Nevertheless, there is still a chance that it just happened by accident. Perhaps we'll find out in the next world!

Or when those pesky aliens decide to engage us and tell us about the rest of the universe!

If you are interested, and it isn't about numbers [sorry]..you are very astute by the way..you could perhaps if you are inclined read "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren....it is an easy read and has some interesting.. IMO...answers to the question, "What am I here for?".....just for a different perspective....
Cheers...p.s. Thorton seem to have it all sewn up {the challenge} He must be a freak! :dunno:

Sean K · 4 July 2006

He was cheating though!!

Book sounds interesting, will add it to the list.

I'm trying to write my own on all this garbage, but I am being distracted by this forum!

nelly · 4 July 2006

Snake Pliskin said:
Yes but I am very good looking and have a ... t snake.

You can flirt with me anytime Nelly. Actually I was being silly, no intentions at all.

Read Paul Davies book the mind of God. Dr Who is a legend.

I'm CRUSHED...DR WHO isn't REAL!!
Thanks for the referral, I'll look out for it...I'm a 'baby' christian so to speak and appreciate any input....Bill Hybels isn't too un-interesting....
hint: if it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck........if it sounded like I was flirting......
Me too...no intentions..

nelly · 4 July 2006

kennas said:
He was cheating though!!

Book sounds interesting, will add it to the list.

I'm trying to write my own on all this garbage, but I am being distracted by this forum!

Did you write while you were in the army as well?
Tell me how thorton is cheating, then I could do it too..teehee

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