wayneL
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nelly said:
Hi nelly
Do you think your comments are a bit disparaging and just a tad dogmatic?
Looking forward to your answer.
Cheers
nelly said:Hi ya all...no offense....i value everyones opinion, and the right to express it but I find people who are un-informed can't really form an informed opinion..IMO
Contrary to what popular books, movies and seminars will tell you, you won't discover your lifes meaning by looking within yourself.
You didn't create yourself, so there is no way you can know what you were created for!
Only the inventor or the owners manual could tell you it's purpose.......
For 1000's of years, brilliant philosophers have discussed and speculated about the meaning of life. Philosophy is an important subject and has it's uses, but when it comes to determining the purpose of life, even the wisest philosophers are just guessing. The search for the purpose of life has puzzled people for 1000's of years. Thats because they typically begin at the wrong starting point - ourselves.
You don't take anything with you, only your character, and you develop your character through relationships.That is our purpose.
Hi ya all...no offense....i value everyones opinion, and the right to express it but I find people who are un-informed can't really form an informed opinion..
googled word above,google asked,did you mean prostitution?wayneL said:PROSELYTATION
Hi Wayne...firstly thanks for the question..nothing like a good debate to stimulate the grey matter.wayneL said:Hi nelly
Do you think your comments are a bit disparaging and just a tad dogmatic?
Looking forward to your answer.
Cheers
There is happiness in trying to do good (this is demonstrable). So whether at death we turn to dust, or live on as some sort of spirit, the human being should just try to do good and respect life.
Hi Kennas..I appreciate the feed back, do you think fully 7 bracketed groups of questions makes a solid concept?..IMO I would research more...or r u beinkennas said:Nelly,
In regard to the material possessions comment, I 100% agree. 'Things' are just items we try to represent and define ourselves by but truly don't. They just represent what society tells us is important. Like my Tag Heuer! he he. I know I can't take it with me and it represents a totally fake part of who I am. I'm just conforming to a part of society that tells me if I posess this watch then people will think I have money, or have good taste, and therefore will like me more thus developing my self esteem. Pretty crap on the surface of it, but I am a step ahead because I recognise this fakeness for what it is. I've been programmed to do this and now I can overcome it because I first of all recognise it for what it is. Anyway, off the topic.
I was thinking about reincarnation last night and I was trying to imgine the actual physical process of reincarnation to see if it was more acceptable to me.....
My soul (which is unidentifiable, unseen, has no shape, can not be held in space or time) leaves my body (from the exact location I do not know) when I die and floats up through the atmosphere (by what means I do not know) to a holding location in the cosmos (where I do not know, nor how it is held in place, or by whom, nor how it is sustained) and then at some other time in the future (days, months, centuries?) it is transferred into a feotus at some stage of genstation, or a baby at birth (depending on who you talk to) and then, my soul (which is my personality? or life force? or brain?) lives on in that other person until they die. etc
Sound like a solid concept to me. I'll sign up to that theory any day.
righty o then...problem solved...debate closed...no soul..nothing matterskennas said:Rafa,
Don't you have an opinion? Or, are you just going to smash other people's ideas without providing any contribution?
Nelly,
I have no 'soul'.I am a product of my mother and father's genes. Just like any other animal on the planet. I am part of the ecosystem and I will return to it. Therefore, best I look after it.
kennas said:Rafa,
Don't you have an opinion? Or, are you just going to smash other people's ideas without providing any contribution?
There is happiness in trying to do good (this is demonstrable). So whether at death we turn to dust, or live on as some sort of spirit, the human being should just try to do good and respect life....
Hi...can't quite bring myself to refer to you as snake pliskin..whatever.....Snake Pliskin said:Nelly,
First there is this:
And this:
And this:
Is such an analogy appropriate for something as complicated as life?
And this:
Our purpose is it?What about looking within ourselves when it comes to relationships?
And then at the end this:
How can we be informed if for thousands of years people have gotten it all wrong as inferred by you?
Snake
Quote:
Originally Posted by wayneL
PROSELYTATION
googled word above,google asked,did you mean prostitution?
Hi...can't quite bring myself to refer to you as snake pliskin
And... IMO the reason we don't get it right, is because being the egotistical creatures we are we think it all begins and ends with us...we are just so wonderful/clever/resourceful...[u get my point] how can it not.
cheers..
thanks for giving us/me your opinion
Hi ya..looks like this stock forum debate is relieving a lot of tensionkennas said:Ha, ha, of course it all matters. Matters more than ever. Everything I do now effects me and those around me and the environment. It's that perspective that makes me want to be the best person I can be for all concerned.
As has been mentioned on this thread, there is nothing magical about our being other than we are an incredible complex organism driven by vitamins, minerals, water and oxygen. We don't fully understand our system and how it operates yet but we are getting there. Mapping the genome has been a huge leap, and undertstanding memory will be another step. But it's all ultimately just electrical impulses generated by chemical reactions throughout the body. Incredible, but I'd want to get to the bottom of the biological complex before I start believing in ghosts.
Blitzed said:If the bible is true and Adam and Eve were the first, where did Cain and Able come from? And who did they have kids with?
If we came from monkeys how come we still have monkeys and not something inbetween, you would think by now they would have evolved more.
And how come the earths population is growing. If reincarnation was true then it would stay the same would it not? Just Adam and Eve dying and being reborn.
Hi S.P.Snake Pliskin said:What`s wrong with SP?
You can call me John Smith if you like.
Isn`t that survival, after all we are animals not divine immortal souls...
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