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basilio said:
Perhaps. But then isn't that even more reason to have a proper FBI investigation to assess all the evidence and clear the matter up properly ?
Rather than just dismissing it out of hand ?
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Sure why not. For a supposed Supreme Court judge it would be justified.
 
Of course there may be other reasons why the Republicians don't want the FBI to assess the evidence against Bret Kavanaugh.

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Tisme said:
Repeating the press comments in USA
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Don't you think the U.S and Australia, are moving toward a guilty until proven innocent model, the press says something, then everyone spends months trying to unravel the truth.
This new paradigm must be causing a huge amount of inefficiency in the system, the amount of effort and lost productivity watching and discussing this weeks 'news agenda', must be colossal especially with the 24/7 news cycle.
If they can't come up with proof of printed accusations, they should be fined. IMO
We could probably increase the dole, on the back of money reaped from women's magazines.
Probably put this in the wrong thread, by the way, who is Brett Kavanough?
 
sptrawler said:
.........Probably put this in the wrong thread, by the way, who is Brett Kavanough?
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hahaha I like that.

Yes the fourth estate is interfering in the situation instead of journalising it. Of course it wouldn't succeed if it lacked an audience, but the Mr Limbkins, one and all, are making sure that won't happen soon.

They are even getting the woman who claimed rape by Clinton to testify as a character witness in an unrelated hearing.
 
Darc Knight said:
I gotta say, if you were a person who had spent a lifetime building a good reputation, then had Donald Trump appoint you to the Supreme Court you'd have second thoughts about having your reputation sullied by being associated with Trump.
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By what I've heard of Kavo's career... it's not a lifetime of doing good that got him to where he is.
 
Democrats will be hoping their stall tactics result in more spurious claims:

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The White House called the allegation part of a "coordinated smear campaign" against Kavanaugh.

"This 35-year-old, uncorroborated claim is the latest in a coordinated smear campaign by the Democrats designed to tear down a good man," White House spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said in a statement to The New Yorker. "This claim is denied by all who were said to be present and is wholly inconsistent with what many women and men who knew Judge Kavanaugh at the time in college say. The White House stands firmly behind Judge Kavanaugh."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2nd-kavan...s-learned-123504911--abc-news-topstories.html
 
He's in anyway. The Republicans want to resolve it by the election and they will get Kavanagh in no matter what. There is no time for a replacement.
 
Apparently there will be a third woman making a sexual misconduct allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. Of course he still has a long way to go to beat the current record of "spurious" sexual assault charges (20) against Donald Trump.

He certainly wouldn't want to upstage his mentor would he..

Brett Kavanaugh: third woman expected to make accusations of sexual misconduct
Attorney Michael Avenatti says third woman ‘reached out’ about sexual misconduct allegations against supreme court nominee

Joanna Walters in New York

@Joannawalters13
Mon 24 Sep 2018 17.00 EDT Last modified on Mon 24 Sep 2018 18.49 EDT

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A third woman is expected to publicly make accusations of sexual misconduct against supreme court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week, her attorney Michael Avenatti said, plunging the judge’s confirmation to America’s highest court into further uncertainty.

“She reached out to me. We vetted her claim and she satisfactorily passed that vetting,” Avenatti said of the new accuser in an interview with the Guardian on Monday.

Avenatti said the woman has also asked to testify at a hearing before the Senate judiciary committee on Thursday, which will hear from California professor Christine Blasey Ford, who has alleged the judge drunkenly sexually assaulted her while in high school.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...cted-to-make-accusations-of-sexual-misconduct
 
Overview of the current situation regarding Brett Kavanaugh allegations from Vox.

What we know — and still don’t — about the sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh
There are now possibly three allegations of sexual misconduct.
By Li Zhouli@vox.com Updated Sep 24, 2018, 10:03am EDT

Two women have now accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, and attorney Michael Avenatti says that a third has “credible information” as well.

Christine Blasey Ford, a Palo Alto University professor who’s accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assaulting her in high school, and Deborah Ramirez, a former classmate of Kavanaugh’s at Yale who’s also accused him of sexual misconduct, both want an FBI investigation. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called Sunday night for all confirmation proceedings to halt until an investigation can be conducted.

A big reason for this push? The FBI might not be able to weigh in on the credibility of their allegations, but the agency can conduct a fact-finding review that could help shed more light on the alleged incidents, Democrats say. By doing an in-depth probe — something that would include interviews with witnesses — the FBI could provide a better assessment of the evidence surrounding the allegations.

It’s the kind of assessment that’s especially vital in this case, which has become overrun with misinformation and contradictory accounts, argues Vox’s Anna North.

Absent an official investigation, what we have are Ford, Ramirez and Kavanaugh’s own statements, secondhand impressions from other witnesses, and a lot of haphazard character testimony. Here’s what we know so far about what Ford, Ramirez, and Kavanaugh have said, as well as the context that’s come out about their respective backgrounds.

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/22/17886814/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-deborah-ramirez
 
Lets start with ford.
Zero evidence.

A lie detector test before she accused ford by name and scripted by her lawyer.
All witnesses have said they have no knowledge on what she is talking about (last check).

Meetings with a active Democrat lawyer and is herself an active Democrat 2 months before.

Scrubbed her social media clean.

Is dictating how her appearance should go. She wanted to appear after Kavanaugh testimony instead of giving him a right to defend. I'd question if she will testify under oath.

Fbi don't investigate sexual assault cases such as this and have already refused. There is no evidence, witnesses, or crime scene. They do character assessments to check you are not a foreign agent or anything else damaging to the country.

Its very possible she was raped then attributed it to Kavanaugh. But it sure as hell smells like a smear job.

The others that came out were of lower credibility and witnesses have already denied knowledge.
By these standards, alien butt probed survivors should be credible as well.

All dems need to do is delay the vote. All this information was available weeks before but they played it at the end to delay further. It should have been done at the start of confirmation where it would have been investigated and been dealt with.

But no.... the dems played it as the ace up their sleeve. Time is running out and if dems win the house then gops pick is toast. Thats why they want to delay as long as possible. Gop will have control with Kavanaugh.
Dems will also use the "women" card come midterms. Its a perceived "win-win" for dems.

Did Kavanaugh do it? It's always a possibility. But the manner in which this has come about screams "smear job"
 
Very , VERY selective in your choice of "evidence" aren't you Moxjo.

You know if I was about to accuse a wanna be Supreme Court Judge for an assault 35 years ago and incur the wrath and death threats of the right wing clansman - I would also spare any social media friends similiar grief. So well done there.

As far trying to ensure she gets a fair hearing vs a Senate Committe that really doesn't want to know about this story ? Again what a surprise. Perhaps she and her lawyer saw the disgraceful stitch up in 1992 of Anita Hill in her testimony against the then Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas.

There are more complete pictures of Christine Fords background and corrorobating evidence. And anyway there is no chance a court could find proof beyond reasonable doubt in this case.

But then Bret Kavanaugh is not in a court of law. It is a hearing to investigate his fitness to be a Supreme Court Judge for the next 30 years. Perhaps his character does need to be examined more fully - not just his willingness to protect Doinald Trump from any prosecution while he is office.

the kavanaugh hearings Sept. 19, 2018
Another Judge, Another Woman, Another Slap in the Face
https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-and-clarence-thomas-history-repeats-itself.html


PS Guess what ? Brett Kavanaughs latest defense is that
"He was a virgin throughout High School and College"
Yep an absolute paragon of virtue.

I reckon he has just crucified himself.
 
Of course we now have to be quite clear about the implications of Brett Kavanaughs assertion that he was a virgin in High School and for many years later.

It means, or course, that any woman( or man?) who claims she had sex with Brett during that time is a liar ! It also means that he could never have taken any part in the allegations of group sex with drunken/drugged girls at frat parties.

Got it? Great. Meet the new Supreme Court Judge.
 
Evidence.....
Same as all the other rubbish articles that amount to nothing.
Hang him before, huh?
 
Are you saying he is a liar on evidence?
Or just another #metoo conviction.
 
basilio said:
Very , VERY selective in your choice of "evidence" aren't you Moxjo.
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No not really.
Just laying out whats going on unlike your "Kavanaugh is a rapists" articles.
The dems unleashed this and have a major reason to want to sink Kavanaugh.
Manufactured evidence is not beyond the Democrats either.
 
You don't get it do you moxjo?

Brett Kavanaugh has now publicly stated he was a virgin in High school and for many years afterwards. He went on to say he had no significant sexual activity at all.
These are his words. Freely given.

So I take it one step further. If perchance anyone pipes up and says "Wait a minute folks. Just for the record Brett and I did the deed in High School/whenever" then if Brett is telling the truth this person has to be a liar.
Or perhaps Brett has just crucified himself.
 
He can't prove that either. Anyone can say anything. And in the current climate, they will.
 
He could be telling the truth about being a virgin, getting drunk and letting the old feller out seems to me to indicate he had no clue when it comes to women.
 
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