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Disclaimer: I wish to qualify my previous post.

Should my daughter ever find herself at a public bar in the company of bikies and other characters of questionable birth, then I would strongly suggest to her not to "open a beer bottle" , highlighting the fact that she has a stomach, let alone a navel ...

and indeed it might be better to indeed use a chastity belt for the said opening of said beer bottle :2twocents
 
By age 15.....Again, if you think she doesn't understand this from personal experience then your're probably wrong.
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It shouldn't be unexpected, but you're a little over the top, particularly for sex. Average age is still 16-17. I wonder if you're basing your statements from a study, or from the media?
 
2020hindsight said:
Suppose your daughter is reaching "sexual experimentation age".
Do you ...
a) tell her not to go there till marriage (probably making her rebel for the sake of rebellion).
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:eek: Nope. How many here waited til marriage!;)

2020hindsight said:
b) tell her to go on the pill (probably making her rebel, safe in the knowledge that dad thinks it's ok, and anyway she won't become pregnant
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She could become pregnant. Give her information about safe sexual practices and offer to accompany her to the Dr (but stay outside) or suggest she goes to a free health clinic. And get her her own medicare card.

2020hindsight said:
c) ignore it and keep your fingers crossed
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Your fingers arent the things that need to be crossed.:p:
2020hindsight said:
d) slip the pill into her tea each morning
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Hm, that might work! :p:

2020hindsight said:
As mentioned elsewhere, in the army they used to put bromide in your tea (lol - rumoured ok) - not sure if they put the pill in the wraac's tea? - I've been wraacing my brains over this for years.
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I think Bromide is for men.

I have a funny story about this. A few years ago, it was Safe Teens Week. One of my sons was around 18. He didnt say a word but his former girlfriend had been approached about appearing in the paper talking about safe sex in teenagers. She decided my son would be a good one to appear with her. On a Tuesday I think it was, hubby started getting all these weird emails and phone calls from friends and work colleagues congratulating him on his 'teenage' discussions. He had no idea what they were talking about. I got home and there was son looking sheepish on the lounge with a newspaper on his lap. Half a page was a picture of him and his ex, with their palms to the camera. On his palm was written "If its not on" and on her palm was written "then its not on". The article then proceeded to outline how Mr X's father had, at the age of ten, given him a sex talk and safe sex practices! :eek: Oh my GAWD! There for all the world to see. Names used and everything!

Think about it; he was no longer seeing this girl but they had together given the safe sex message, Sigh. Pity they didnt have a 'mental acuity' discussion.
 
e) send her my way :)

just an FYI the pill isnt 100% effective, my best mate (21) just knocked up his gf (19) and she was on the pill.

Id reccomend giving her the pill and having a large staircase/rusty coathanger/open microwave on standby...
 
white_goodman said:
... my best mate (21) just knocked up his gf (19) and she was on the pill.

Id reccomend giving her the pill and having a large staircase/rusty coathanger/open microwave on standby...
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white you're gonna have to get a bit more decorum, man.
I trust you tell the fathers of your girlfriends that that's your attitude.
:bad:
 
Prospector said:
... Half a page was a picture of him and his ex, with their palms to the camera. On his palm was written "If its not on" and on her palm was written "then its not on". The article then proceeded to outline how Mr X's father had, at the age of ten, given him a sex talk and safe sex practices! :eek: Oh my GAWD!
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lol - thanks for the light hearted take there Prospector :)

I trust he ( and she) were well paid. (?)
and that your husband insisted on a share, since he was quoted so accurately, and much of the script of the article was his words lol.
 
Best solution is to perhaps have had the foresight to provide daughter with three or four large, tough and over-protective big brothers. The meaner the better. Daughter will hate it, but it can work a treat;)
 
THE WEDDING TEST

I was a very happy man.
My wonderful girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married.
There was only one little thing bothering me...It was her beautiful younger sister.

My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight miniskirts, and generally was bra-less.
She would regularly bend down when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice view.
It had to be deliberate.. Because she never did it when she was near anyone else.

One day her 'little' sister called and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations.
She was alone when I arrived, and she whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn't overcome.
She told me that she wanted me just once before I got married and committed my life to her sister..

Well, I was in total shock, and couldn't say a word.
She said, 'I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one last wild fling, just come up and get me.'

I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight to the front door.
I opened the door, and headed straight towards my car.

Lo and behold, my entire future family was standing outside, all clapping!

With tears in his eyes, my father-in-law hugged me and said, 'We are very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.'

And the moral of this story is:

Always keep your condoms in your car.
 
mazzatelli said:
And the moral of this story is:
Always keep your condoms in your car.
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lol - pay that one
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DocK said:
Best solution is to perhaps have had the foresight to provide daughter with three or four large, tough .. big brothers. ;)
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1. lol - sure thing doc - and mine has a couple of them as well - but like I mentioned back there , it was meant to be a generic / general question, i.e. " If YOU had a daughter etc." :)

2. BTW, how easy is it to talk to the burly brothers about this ... lol. compared to ... ahh whatever. Like I say, "go ask your mother". :2twocents

3. btw doc, you mention / infer planning - eg "Sex Selection Techniques". How do you plan these things :confused: - I can only find references to reliability with the likes of "Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD)", which employs IVF etc - doesn't sound like much fun m8 ;)
http://pregnancy.about.com/od/boyorgirl/p/girlorboy.htm This is the most effective technique in sex selection. With nearly 100% accuracy and the ability to select not only sex but a healthy embryo makes it very popular. Though this is a costly and intensive method of sex selection that uses in vitro fertilization and does biopsies on the embryos before they are returned to the uterus.
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PS I was gonna say that PGD /IVF sounded a bit "Orwell's 1984" - but then I realised that we're already through that particular stage of our technical evolution ;)
 
mazzatelli said:
THE WEDDING TEST

I was a very happy man.
My wonderful girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married.
There was only one little thing bothering me...It was her beautiful younger sister.

My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight miniskirts, and generally was bra-less.
She would regularly bend down when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice view.
It had to be deliberate.. Because she never did it when she was near anyone else.

One day her 'little' sister called and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations.
She was alone when I arrived, and she whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn't overcome.
She told me that she wanted me just once before I got married and committed my life to her sister..

Well, I was in total shock, and couldn't say a word.
She said, 'I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one last wild fling, just come up and get me.'

I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight to the front door.
I opened the door, and headed straight towards my car.

Lo and behold, my entire future family was standing outside, all clapping!

With tears in his eyes, my father-in-law hugged me and said, 'We are very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.'

And the moral of this story is:

Always keep your condoms in your car.
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You weren't seriously going to cheat on your future wife with her sister would you? :cautious:
 
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I usually resort to poetry to get my thoughts together and communicated with daughters and the like ... and then I hide the message in the lines (refer underlined) :cool:

.... easy to rationalise,
but Where do you start with affairs of the heart, like two lovers’ tortured goodbyes,
who Needs to be chaste, its such a damned waste
they Much prefer lock-jawed and wrestle-embraced
(you Try it on strangers you’re sure to get maced)
and a Needing, bleeding, and frenzied-feeding - pleading trust in their eyes.
(As long as they don’t get to actually breeding before’n they formalise).

cos you Haven’t felt warmth till you’ve been there child, tho’ you’ve sat in front of the fire,
nor Shared in so dizzy a dream there child, with your heart on so swinging a tyre,
if Only one knew how to “beam there” child, one would yell from the highest spire,
but Rational thoughts – in love – distorts,
and the Two don’t combine well by all reports,
you just Give of your soul and your innermost thoughts,
and be Blissfully, wis(t)fully, ultralong kissfully - glissfully lost in the mire.
(you could Bottle and bank it and make a pile - Swissfully – selling to the highest buyer).

hey- it’s Not always happy, etc
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Mr J said:
It shouldn't be unexpected, but you're a little over the top, particularly for sex. Average age is still 16-17. I wonder if you're basing your statements from a study, or from the media?
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See original post:

By age 15...

And not long after she understands the concept of faking it. And that young blokes in a hurry aren't always too keen on condoms.
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Not long after = year or two = 16 - 17.

In my opinion based largely on anecdotal evidence:

13 - 16 = alcohol, cigarettes

14 - 18 = earning income, work

16 - 17 = sex

16 - 20 = cars, driving

From the perspective of parents though, usually better to be a year too early than a day too late with this issue as there's always exceptions in terms of age.

Alcohol or smoking you'll work out it's happening before too long and permanent consequences, whilst not impossible, are unlikely from a bit of teenage experimentation.

Work and income - shouldn't be a problem unless they're working for someone dodgy. The big name supermarkets, fast food outlets etc don't pay high wages but at least they should be a reasonably safe work environment for a first job. There's not much that can really go wrong flipping burgers or at the checkout.

Cars and driving - at least you've got the police already on the lookout and hopefully they've done and passed a driving test. Some risks here certainly, but for the vast majority it will work out fine with nothing more than some property damage and perhaps a few minor cuts and scratches.

Sex - that's where the big life-changing risks are IMO. :2twocents
 
like the girl who came home at sunup - and her parents were waiting for her - and insisted on an explanation - and she explained that she and Johnny Smith had been lying under the boardwalks down at the pier and, well, one thing lead to another, and well, she wasn't a virgin anymore - "and , in any case, it's all ok , because it's a common thing dad - I read about it the other day - it's called pier pressure - don't you know anything!." :rolleyes:
 
speaking of coming home at sunup etc - lol - my sons base themselves downstairs, - weekends there can be any number sleeping / talking / drinking / laughing at any time of day or night.

last Sunday I stick my head in to ask if they'd like some food - there are 4 in the double bed, and two in each of the other 3 beds lol.

they assure me , "this isn't how we slept!! - we're just like this to keep warm !!!

I'm reminded of that story of the linguistics expert's lecture to the classroom ...
"there are positives and negatives, , and as everyone knows, two negatives make a positive, - and furthermore a negative plus a positive can mean a positive - eg in Namibia, or indeed a negative - eg in Tajikistan.

but there are no known examples of a double positive making a negative"...

and the aussie up the back calls out "yeah right!!" :rolleyes:
 

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