Daniel Kertcher/Trading Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
It's OK, let her spend $6k to learn how to make 0.15% LESS EXPENSES (which is probably >0.15%) less losing trades.... even after Alvin was incontrovertibly proven a fraud by Skyquake just a few posts ago.
Just another shill for sure.
It's OK, let her spend $6k to learn how to make 0.15% LESS EXPENSES (which is probably >0.15%) less losing trades.... even after Alvin was incontrovertibly proven a fraud by Skyquake just a few posts ago.
Just another shill for sure.
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
What has being emancipated have to do with CanOz's accurate pictorial assessment of your agenda here?
BTW, I am an emancipated woman and I find the display of a sockpuppet rather childish.
What has being emancipated have to do with CanOz's accurate pictorial assessment of your agenda here?
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CanOz and wayneL,
I really see no point in trying to protect these muppets from losing their money.
It just means more money is in circulation when they burn it on these schemes.
Some of it percolates down to us one-eyed, unable to see what the blind can.
gg
CanOz and wayneL,
I really see no point in trying to protect these muppets from losing their money.
It just means more money is in circulation when they burn it on these schemes.
Some of it percolates down to us one-eyed, unable to see what the blind can.
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Speaking of emancipated socks, upon being subjected to my laundry, many have made their respective bids for freedom, thoroughly depleting my sock drawer in the process.
Their forlorn partners had given up all hope of reunion until I happened upon this thread.
Whilst I understand that the theatrical arts hold greater appeal than the more utilitarian careers of footware upholstery, I do find the financial impost of replenishing my sock drawer wearisome.
I hope that my liberated socks will soon tire of congregating here and, in so doing, hear my appeal to abandon their ceaseless chanting of "emancipated sock puppets of the world unite!" etc. and return home to their respective sock drawers where they may be reunited once again with their forsaken partners!
If only I'd taken this thread more seriously, I could've saved myself the $99 that I recently paid for that 1,001 paged hardcover tome by McMillan, and instead banked that money towards one of Daniel's $3,990 webinars!
Speaking of emancipated socks, upon being subjected to my laundry, many have made their respective bids for freedom, thoroughly depleting my sock drawer in the process.
Their forlorn partners had given up all hope of reunion until I happened upon this thread.
Whilst I understand that the theatrical arts hold greater appeal than the more utilitarian careers of footware upholstery, I do find the financial impost of replenishing my sock drawer wearisome.
I hope that my liberated socks will soon tire of congregating here and, in so doing, hear my appeal to abandon their ceaseless chanting of "emancipated sock puppets of the world unite!" etc. and return home to their respective sock drawers where they may be reunited once again with their forsaken partners!
If only I'd taken this thread more seriously, I could've saved myself the $99 that I recently paid for that 1,001 paged hardcover tome by McMillan, and instead banked that money towards one of Daniel's $3,990 webinars!
Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
You can't help people who are determined to be moronic. Magda if you can't type "Options" in the search function on this site then I don't think trading options is for you.
I also must concur with the sentiment expresses previously here that if having read this thread you still want to sign up for Daniel Kertcher's BS program then you deserve to lose your money.
Readers don't be distracted by shills like Magda. The truth is that Kertcher's course is a waste of your hard earned money.
You can't help people who are determined to be moronic. Magda if you can't type "Options" in the search function on this site then I don't think trading options is for you.
I also must concur with the sentiment expresses previously here that if having read this thread you still want to sign up for Daniel Kertcher's BS program then you deserve to lose your money.
Readers don't be distracted by shills like Magda. The truth is that Kertcher's course is a waste of your hard earned money.
Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
Please let us know how you go. Also please do spill the secret of Alvin, of how he made money without doing any trades, IE. no volume on the options he mentioned he traded. I still have not mastered the art of premium credit trading without doing any trades/volume yet have money rolling into my account. One day when I save enough to buy Daniel's course I will get it.
Please let us know how you go. Also please do spill the secret of Alvin, of how he made money without doing any trades, IE. no volume on the options he mentioned he traded. I still have not mastered the art of premium credit trading without doing any trades/volume yet have money rolling into my account. One day when I save enough to buy Daniel's course I will get it.
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
I made $17 last Thursday with just 1 options trade...no Daniel's needed.
I made $17 last Thursday with just 1 options trade...no Daniel's needed.
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You can't hear me laffin', but you can see my shoulders rise and fall!
You can't hear me laffin', but you can see my shoulders rise and fall!
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
The only post worth replying to is that of skyQuake.
Now, skyQuake, I don't know where you are getting your data from (probably, googlefinance, yahoofinance or even Bloomberg), but you, as well as I, and many other people on this forum know, that the figures you see on the "official" lists do not include every trade that goes through.
As everybody knows, when you go to an actual broker's trading platform, you can occasionally see some mispriced options. One example was back in February when I told you about the mispriced AAPL 600.0 call option with a premium of $1.885 when AAPL was trading at about $450 with 2 weeks to go to expiry. All the official lists showed the premium at 1 or 2 cents. However, on my broker's platform it clearly showed as $1.885 and there were quite a few contracts there to be sold. As it turned out that lot of options had been sitting there since last year when AAPL was indeed trading around $600 and a premium of $1.885 made sense. Anyway, I was able to sell these options and two weeks later they, of course, expired worthless and I collected a nice fat profit.
A similar thing happened this time with SNDK options, except that the mispricing was not nearly as severe. skyQuake, I don't dispute the figures you saw in an official list, but you would also have seen that the last trade that went through was at $13.15. I didn't quite get $13.15, but I got $12.90.
That trade is coming along nicely and should give me a reasonable profit when the options expire on September 21.
The only post worth replying to is that of skyQuake.
Now, skyQuake, I don't know where you are getting your data from (probably, googlefinance, yahoofinance or even Bloomberg), but you, as well as I, and many other people on this forum know, that the figures you see on the "official" lists do not include every trade that goes through.
As everybody knows, when you go to an actual broker's trading platform, you can occasionally see some mispriced options. One example was back in February when I told you about the mispriced AAPL 600.0 call option with a premium of $1.885 when AAPL was trading at about $450 with 2 weeks to go to expiry. All the official lists showed the premium at 1 or 2 cents. However, on my broker's platform it clearly showed as $1.885 and there were quite a few contracts there to be sold. As it turned out that lot of options had been sitting there since last year when AAPL was indeed trading around $600 and a premium of $1.885 made sense. Anyway, I was able to sell these options and two weeks later they, of course, expired worthless and I collected a nice fat profit.
A similar thing happened this time with SNDK options, except that the mispricing was not nearly as severe. skyQuake, I don't dispute the figures you saw in an official list, but you would also have seen that the last trade that went through was at $13.15. I didn't quite get $13.15, but I got $12.90.
That trade is coming along nicely and should give me a reasonable profit when the options expire on September 21.
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
That's true for stocks. Dark Pools can hide some things. But thats why there's Open Interest for options. EVERY trade is shown.
I think you're on 20min delayed data...
Surely those HFT firms that spend billions to cut latency and execution speeds have some sort of presence in the US???!
I love how you try to wriggle out of this one.
The last trade was indeed $13.15... But that was on the 14th Aug, whereas you made your post on the 20th, when the stock was ~$3 lower. Only trade on the 19th was $9.70. Open interest matched those, no mysterious change in open interest as a result of hidden trades.
So. You claim to have taken a trade that was based on someone leaving in an order. The mispricing wasn't immediately pocketed by a high frequency trading firm. Or considering the timelag, a high latency trading firm.
The cherry on top is that there is no record of the supposed $12.90 trade anywhere on any exchange.
The burden of proof is on you. But oh wait you don't believe in broker's statements and whatnot right?
That's true for stocks. Dark Pools can hide some things. But thats why there's Open Interest for options. EVERY trade is shown.
I think you're on 20min delayed data...
Surely those HFT firms that spend billions to cut latency and execution speeds have some sort of presence in the US???!
I love how you try to wriggle out of this one.
The last trade was indeed $13.15... But that was on the 14th Aug, whereas you made your post on the 20th, when the stock was ~$3 lower. Only trade on the 19th was $9.70. Open interest matched those, no mysterious change in open interest as a result of hidden trades.
So. You claim to have taken a trade that was based on someone leaving in an order. The mispricing wasn't immediately pocketed by a high frequency trading firm. Or considering the timelag, a high latency trading firm.
The cherry on top is that there is no record of the supposed $12.90 trade anywhere on any exchange.
The burden of proof is on you. But oh wait you don't believe in broker's statements and whatnot right?
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
Ohh Noooo!
This is ssoooo devastating!
My ego might never recover from such a crushing blow!
What does SkyQuake have that I do not?
Does this mean that you don't love me anymore?
Ohh Noooo!
This is ssoooo devastating!
My ego might never recover from such a crushing blow!
What does SkyQuake have that I do not?
Does this mean that you don't love me anymore?
Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
Yeah. I don't know what SkyQuake has that I don't have either. But I know what he has that Alvin (Daniel) doesn't have. Understanding of and competence in option's trading for one.
Yeah. I don't know what SkyQuake has that I don't have either. But I know what he has that Alvin (Daniel) doesn't have. Understanding of and competence in option's trading for one.
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
Well we all only had Black Scholes, logic and mathematics to prove Alvin is full of it.
Skyquake actually busted him lying through his teeth, caught him out on actual data.
As far as Alvin's "the dog ate my homework" excuse...... Absolutely ridiculous.
Well we all only had Black Scholes, logic and mathematics to prove Alvin is full of it.
Skyquake actually busted him lying through his teeth, caught him out on actual data.
As far as Alvin's "the dog ate my homework" excuse...... Absolutely ridiculous.
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Alvin, if you are using the IG platform, you can take a screenshot of your 19/8/2013 trade entry and post it here, just like I have with my Visa trade. It will be a good starting point. Try it.
Alvin, if you are using the IG platform, you can take a screenshot of your 19/8/2013 trade entry and post it here, just like I have with my Visa trade. It will be a good starting point. Try it.
Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
I just tried googling, "Daniel Kertcher".
There, on the top choice, was this thread.
The OP's post was partially showing.
So I got to wondering ...
who benefits from this thread rising to top choice every time we post!
I just tried googling, "Daniel Kertcher".
There, on the top choice, was this thread.
The OP's post was partially showing.
So I got to wondering ...
who benefits from this thread rising to top choice every time we post!
Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
LOL. I was pondering that too myself.. top ranking for 'Daniel Kertcher' (higher than his own Daniel Kertcher dot com), 'Platinum Pursuits' and #2 for 'Trading Pursuits' (granted its not in the thread title).
LOL. I was pondering that too myself.. top ranking for 'Daniel Kertcher' (higher than his own Daniel Kertcher dot com), 'Platinum Pursuits' and #2 for 'Trading Pursuits' (granted its not in the thread title).
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
Well, if you were researching whether to blow 4k on that nonsense.....
Caveat Emptor
Well, if you were researching whether to blow 4k on that nonsense.....
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Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?
So, for all of you who are keen to see a broker's statement: Here it Is.
Now all I have to do to wait till expiry to see how the trade turns out.
_______________________________________________________________________________
This message is to confirm that you have placed the following trade:
Date: 19 AUG 2013
Reference: DIAPTREDFEWSA
Size: Sell 10.00 contract(s) to open
Market: SanDisk Corp 4500 CALL 20 SEP 2013
Level: 1290
If you have any questions, please contact our Helpdesk on the details below.
_______________________________________________________________________________
So, for all of you who are keen to see a broker's statement: Here it Is.
Now all I have to do to wait till expiry to see how the trade turns out.
_______________________________________________________________________________
This message is to confirm that you have placed the following trade:
Date: 19 AUG 2013
Reference: DIAPTREDFEWSA
Size: Sell 10.00 contract(s) to open
Market: SanDisk Corp 4500 CALL 20 SEP 2013
Level: 1290
If you have any questions, please contact our Helpdesk on the details below.
_______________________________________________________________________________
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