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Cyclists don't bother me at all.

If they go through a red light, good, it lets them put some between them and my vehicle. Riding up a hill, it doesn't take long to change into the lane to over take or even squeeze past if it's a wide lane. Really they should get on the footpath up hills as they're going way to slow.

I walk the Pyrmont bridge every day which is always busy with people of all sorts wandering along and bikes weaving between them. If they're riding straight at me, I keep going straight ahead so that I don't walk into their path - they're going quicker so they can do the dodging.

I've never abused a cyclist but I've had a lady cyclist abuse me...

Cyclists don't bother me at all, but Taxis. Boy those guys are scum. If there are any taxi drivers in here, I don't apologise for my attitude. Your fellow taxi drivers in Sydney have time and time again destroyed any confidence I had in their abilities as drivers, business people and decent people.
 
Dunger said:
Cyclists don't bother me at all.

I've never abused a cyclist but I've had a lady cyclist abuse me...
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I have an effective rejoinder to bad-mannered female cyclists.

say very calmly " why dont you just get a seat on that thing madam"

works every time
 
SmellyTerror said:
Damn straight. And some shops (Coles for sure) let you put the card through while the cashier is scanning the items. So all you need to do to pay is enter the pin. That's at least as quick as giving cash and getting change.

And if we're going to wave the idiots about that get their cards rejected, I'll counter with the grannies who spend ten minutes hunting through their purses for exact change.
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Grannies are all right.

They have spent a lifetime paying their taxes so cut them a little slack. :rolleyes:
 
SmellyTerror said:
One of us doesn't understand what the other is saying. Possibly both.
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Not sure what I don’t understand, but if you have 2 cars you have to pay 2 regos irrespectively if you use one at the time.

Which in my opinion was in your argument, that bike rider has motor car with paid rego.

Would it be clearer if I used 5 cars in my argument? :)
 
That does make more sense.

...but if, like most people, you only have one car, and a bike rider also only has one car, then you're both paying the exact same amount of rego.

Then the bike rider does you a favour by keeping his car off the road.

You're both paying the same, but the person who rides uses less of the available resources (roads, parking) that the rego money pays for, than you do. Which makes asking that person to pay *more* for a resource they use *less* seem a bit silly.


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If you want to ask why a single driver has to pay rego on multiple cars, then you've got a different argument. Should there be a discount for multiple cars? Dunno - but it'd leave a lot of room for dodgy stuff (yeah, I have 4 cars, but my wife and adult children, by amazing coincidence, have none).
 
SmellyTerror said:
Then the bike rider does you a favour by keeping his car off the road.
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It hardly seems like a favour when there are 10 cars following them at 30km/hr under the speed limit for 5-10km. This increases the amount of fuel and time wasted by several other drivers, which by far outweighs any benefit of the cyclist not buying fuel - yes, the cyclist directly uses less fuel, but causes motorists to use more. In heavy traffic you may be able to pass the cyclist, but at any given time there are several people trying to pass, so during the entire ride there are many people banked up behind the cyclist wasting fuel, brake pads, etc.

On top of that there is the safety issue.

If everyone was on bikes it would be great, but the two don't mix well, especially when cyclists do not allow motorists to pass when the option is there. It would be a lot easier to be sympathetic to the fuel and time wastage they impose on other motorists if they were safe and courteous.
 
Sdajii said:
...If everyone was on bikes it would be great, ...
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Well, yes and no.

Bike riders as free-loaders, are OK to certain point as roads deteriorate irrespectively used or not.

So, everybody on pushbike somehow would have to contribute to roads maintenance and further expansion if / when needed.

Surely it all could come out of collected taxes, but current Government model allows for multiple ways of tax collection.

Wander if Henry’s tax review will touch on tax collection simplification?
 
Happy said:
Wander if Henry’s tax review will touch on tax collection simplification?
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The way Mr Rudd is going on the Henry Tax Review, you will never know.
Must be some recommendations in there (despite Mr Henry's close association with the Labor Party) that Mr Rudd finds unpalatable.
 
I have just struggled home from an all night affair, and passed a Pelethon on Ross River Road here in Townsville.

Has anyone down south lost a pelethon as they don't usually come out in Townsville on Friday mornings.

The leader had a rather garish red lycra and a tattoo on its forehead. I was unable and disinclined to ascertain its sex as they all look the same to me in lycra.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I have just struggled home from an all night affair, and passed a Pelethon on Ross River Road here in Townsville.

Has anyone down south lost a pelethon as they don't usually come out in Townsville on Friday mornings.

The leader had a rather garish red lycra and a tattoo on its forehead. I was unable and disinclined to ascertain its sex as they all look the same to me in lycra.

gg
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gg I don't know what's happening but they're out in force down here as well.
 

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Solly said:
gg I don't know what's happening but they're out in force down here as well.
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That picture made me a bit queezy mate. They really don't respect their bodies do they?

I think they should have to pay rego if they are in a pelethon, wear lycra or helmets.

The rest of us should be classified as recreational.

gg
 
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