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Competitive Advantage

Hi Chops,

These companies should be used to create a watchlist for shorting candidates - they will all fail in the long run.

Cheers

They will certainly fall if their competitive advantage is eroded. Not the time to buy them though.
 
APN

Owns radio licenses, which have held up the best of all traditional media. Owns the best network of outdoor advertising in Australia, again not easy to replicate. It's hard to tell what's happening in their regional newspaper business but on the surface it does appear to not be as affected by the structural change as metros.
 
You have made a boring day very funny .

Maintain your own competitive advantage.

Cheers

You sum up nicely
Company competitive advantage + your own advantage = good return

Have you ever seen Warren Buffett tell people what he's buying ... He even got a sec exemptions not to lodge substantial holding until he fully loaded
 
Hi Chops,

These companies should be used to create a watchlist for shorting candidates - they will all fail in the long run.

Cheers

You could put the whole market on a watchlist for shorts then.

They wont necessarily fall from where you buy them.

But I'd say you need to be aware of where they are in the growth cycle.

For instance, COH once had market dominance and competitive advantage. Now that it is trading at a lower P/E, does it have the same factors it once did, or has the risk for other competitors taken the fluff out of the price?

None of these companies with a distinct advantage will ever hold that position eternally. High margins, and barriers to entry will eventually reduce.

Just my ramblings..
 
Point is, trading the factor is more important than timing the factor.
 

This is interesting, not a company I have ever looked at thank you.

i suppose TLS should be on the list. They have the money to bash their way through the market.

Many Australians will stick with Telstra no matter what for their telecommunication needs, that is a nice moat.

I'd add RFG and DMP. They're both on the pricey side but have show a long term ability to grow EPS and have good scale. DMP has taken to the internet quite well - from memory up to 50% of sales is now done online.

DMP I agree with totally, RFG however I have never been able to get my head around, the group of businesses are not any I would personally go out of my way to frequent and they also do not have a significant point of difference to their opposition in my opinion.

Prob add CPU in there. Not a great performer lately, but they do have global scale and reach and once the global economy starts growing strongly again they will be very leveraged to it.

Scale and ease to deal with probably the main advantages with CPU


Another one I will have to look inti.

SEK prob needs to be on the list too. They have a stranglehold on the online job market in Australia and are moving internationally now too.

You are probably right with Seek but I have allways worried how sustainable their network effect is up against Linkedin.


You are right there are not too many ASX listed companies like Coke, EBAY, AMEX...
 

The price has sure taken a beating McLovin, near all time lows...Looks like bottom might be in for the time being though....

Would love to hear a VSA guru comment on that volume, takeover candidate?

Perhaps i'll post the chart in the stock thread...

CanOz
 


Two very good posts, perhaps I should break this makeshift list up into those different categories. The best results would probably come from identifying those companies that have the potential to develop a sustainable advantage early in their development.
 
Hi Chops,

These companies should be used to create a watchlist for shorting candidates - they will all fail in the long run.

Cheers

How long are you talking about odds-on?

SOL seems to be a business that has some sort of advantage (probably shareholder friendly and competent management) they have been around since around 1902, I think BHP may have been around for a while as well.
 
Has no one mentioned Innovation as a prerequisite to a competitive advantage?

CanOz
 
Hi Chops,

Not suggesting put the whole market on a watch list, instead look for companies which are widely followed and considered to have a “moat” with a lot of “fluff” in the price – reverse DCF can be a useful tool to assess the “fluff”. The higher expectations the investors place on a company (and the price) the more likely the “fluff” will disappear when the company fails to meet expectations.

Hi Robusta,

How long? I would start looking at companies that have been widely followed by the investment community for the last 5 to 10 years.

The Big Four banks are currently trading at 2 x book value yet long term CAGR is approx. 12% - does this not concern you? IMO, the drop in interest rates created the chase for safe yield but the Big Four Banks are starting to have some “fluff” in their price.

Cheers
 

Might be of interest...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-share-price-bubble-still-has-way-to-go-20130428-2imp5.html
 
Has no one mentioned Innovation as a prerequisite to a competitive advantage?

CanOz

Innovation isn't necessarily a competitive advantage unless it can't be copied. Otherwise you're just paying for research your competition otherwise would have to. On the flipside, someone like TEN or SWM doesn't need to innovate to maintain their competitive advantage, the government gives them a license which gives them their advantage.

There was an interesting article in the AFR yesterday about how Samsung and LG basically worked out it was cheaper to steal patents and pay the legal costs and that's how they ruined Japanese manufacturers.


http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies/samsung_borrows_without_permission_UZ7o5knqe2TSZuTvw7QYzN
 
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