Climate change another name for Weather

[wayneL]

It is closer then you think. You skeptics can try to make fun of climate change but after reading the article in the Australian below, you may also start believing in the fast approaching horrors of climate change.

Climate change is shrinking sheep
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25727435-11949,00.html

I think there may be also some of the missing science there for Professor Ian Plimer. I hope he reads it and stops reprinting his book.


Sam

There are so many caveats that should be added to that article, that it's ridiculous. In any case, hardly a harbinger of ecological catastrophe now is it?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

It is closer then you think. You skeptics can try to make fun of climate change but after reading the article in the Australian below, you may also start believing in the fast approaching horrors of climate change.

Climate change is shrinking sheep
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25727435-11949,00.html

I think there may be also some of the missing science there for Professor Ian Plimer. I hope he reads it and stops reprinting his book.


Sam

Mate in the mid 19th century the ideal beautiful woman weighed 105kg, had a large butt and large breasts.

This was because tuberculosis was deadly and made handsome lassies into cadavers between seasons.

For some strange reason, lads, became more carnally excited when they saw a buxom lass than when they say a proxy cadaver.

Now let us extraolate to 2009.

We find that herpetic figures of 50kg are the most attractive. And as lads are so they react.

AND IT IS NOT DUE TO BLOODY CLIMATE CHANGE.

And Paris Hilton is not a sheep, although she may have many of their attributes, and lonely Kiwi lads upon the Desert Highway are not migrating to Hirta in search of skinny sheep.

thanks for the link mate.

gg

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

There are so many caveats that should be added to that article, that it's ridiculous. In any case, hardly a harbinger of ecological catastrophe now is it?

I agree. The arrogance and con of man is pathetic. Lot's of gullible communists unaware of propaganda and real facts.

 

[Samson 9]

Quotes from "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" first published in 1841:

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

"Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder's welcome."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds

Nothing ever changes.

Sam

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Quotes from "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" first published in 1841:

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

"Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder's welcome."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds

Nothing ever changes.

Sam

Truth is a funny thing. There are many who think bananas are apples.

 

[wayneL]

 

[Calliope]

AL Gore says "The debate is over" Stalin said much the same thing when he started eliminating the opposition.

 

[Aussiejeff]

Hooray!

ObamaKRudd have saved the world!!

80% cut in CO2 emissions by developed countries by 2050!!!

Oh.... hang on.....



That means roughly 2% per year every year on average for the next 40 years, right?

Ummm...

How much would that cost our piddly-widdly economy???

*DOH*

Economy stuffed....

*sniff*

.... but then, SupaKRudd will still be around in 2050 to save you all anyway with a massive amount of "detailed programmatic specificity" !! (I'll be watching from cloud 9 :engel: )

*Nirvana*

 

[ghotib]

There are so many caveats that should be added to that article, that it's ridiculous. In any case, hardly a harbinger of ecological catastrophe now is it?

At this time, it's an interesting and uncontroversial demonstration of an isolated population adapting to local environmental change.

But in hindsight, it might well be a harbinger of ecological catastrophe. A clue, a straw in the wind, a small signal of looming disaster. If only somebody had realised in time... Oh wait. That's us, and this is the time.

Ghoti

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

At this time, it's an interesting and uncontroversial demonstration of an isolated population adapting to local environmental change.

But in hindsight, it might well be a harbinger of ecological catastrophe. A clue, a straw in the wind, a small signal of looming disaster. If only somebody had realised in time... Oh wait. That's us, and this is the time.

Ghoti

And from causes totally unlinked to man or jovians.

 

[ghotib]

And from causes totally unlinked to man or jovians.

Ah yes, the Jovians. The changes in the visible surface of Jupiter are fascinating - and beautiful, for what that's worth. This item from the University of California is the closest I've been able to get to a discussion that's both informed and comprehensible.

The following quotations are shameless cherry-picked, but I think the point they illustrate - that the processes influencing climate differ greatly between Jupiter and Earth - is correct. The full article is at:

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/6305

About 20 years ago, Marcus developed a computer model showing how the Great Red Spot emerged out of and endured in the chaotic turbulence of Jupiter's atmosphere. His efforts to explain the dynamics governing it and other vortices on Jupiter led to his current projection of the planet's impending climate change...

...Marcus approaches the study of planetary atmospheres from the untraditional viewpoint of a fluid dynamicist. "I'm basing my predictions on the relatively simple laws of vortex dynamics instead of using voluminous amounts of data or complex atmospheric models," says Marcus.

Marcus says the lesson of Jupiter's climate could be that small disturbances can cause global changes. However, he cautions against applying the same model to Earth's climate, which is influenced by many different factors, both natural and manmade.

"Still, it's important to have different 'labs' for climate," says Marcus. "Studying other worlds helps us better understand our own, even if they are not directly analogous."

Ghoti

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

The glib excuse for an ex politician Al Gore is being given soft questions on the 7.30 report (what a surprise), as I write.

The ABC assume that what he says is gospel and do not seem to give any airtime or credence to those who believe in Weather. They give him patsy questions for the answers they want. What a waste of airtime.

Its just not fair.

Al Gore, still looks and sounds like a Jovian joke.

gg

 

[Calliope]

The glib excuse for an ex politician Al Gore is being given soft questions on the 7.30 report (what a surprise), as I write.

The ABC assume that what he says is gospel and do not seem to give any airtime or credence to those who believe in Weather. They give him patsy questions for the answers they want. What a waste of airtime.

Its just not fair.

Al Gore, still looks and sounds like a Jovian joke.

gg

Yes, I saw that. It is difficult to believe that anyone could give credibility to this idiot. He keeps harping about the overwhelming scientific evidence to support his nonsense theories on global warming. If I remember correctly Hitler had overwhelming support for his equally dangerous theories.

It's all about controlling the masses with propaganda.

 

[Julia]

The glib excuse for an ex politician Al Gore is being given soft questions on the 7.30 report (what a surprise), as I write.

The ABC assume that what he says is gospel and do not seem to give any airtime or credence to those who believe in Weather. They give him patsy questions for the answers they want. What a waste of airtime.


gg

Yep, whenever you see Heather Ewitt doing the interviewing, you may as well leave the room. She only ever does the really soft stuff where all the questions and answers are pre-arranged. Gore really gives me the pip.
Every time I see him, I remember that shot of his house - a mansion with every room in the house glowing with lights.

I suppose at least we can be grateful that he failed in his bid for the presidency.

 

[Buckeroo]

Ditto

When I hear him speak, have to admit, I do get the urge to go out & melt some ice just to smite him!!

Cheers

 

[Julia]

Ditto

When I hear him speak, have to admit, I do get the urge to go out & melt some ice just to smite him!!

Cheers

 

[wayneL]

Ditto

When I hear him speak, have to admit, I do get the urge to go out & melt some ice just to smite him!!

Cheers

Yep.

I go and start up the Hummer and let it idle for a few hours.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Yes, I saw that. It is difficult to believe that anyone could give credibility to this idiot. He keeps harping about the overwhelming scientific evidence to support his nonsense theories on global warming. If I remember correctly Hitler had overwhelming support for his equally dangerous theories.

It's all about controlling the masses with propaganda.

Yep, whenever you see Heather Ewitt doing the interviewing, you may as well leave the room. She only ever does the really soft stuff where all the questions and answers are pre-arranged. Gore really gives me the pip.
Every time I see him, I remember that shot of his house - a mansion with every room in the house glowing with lights.

I suppose at least we can be grateful that he failed in his bid for the presidency.

Ditto

When I hear him speak, have to admit, I do get the urge to go out & melt some ice just to smite him!!

Cheers

Lets hope ole Steve Fielding puts it upem when the vote comes down as to whether ( excuse the pun ) we spend billions on carbon taxes while Kevin Ludd's mates in China laugh their heads off and go, go, go, industrially after they've squeezed all the info out of poor old Steven Hu.

gg

gg

 

[GumbyLearner]

Lets hope ole Steve Fielding puts it upem when the vote comes down as to whether ( excuse the pun ) we spend billions on carbon taxes while Kevin Ludd's mates in China laugh their heads off and go, go, go, industrially after they've squeezed all the info out of poor old Steven Hu.

gg

gg

I'm sure it's not a spelling error. But Kevin "Ludd" GG. :dimbulb:
You mean the machine smashers of the Highlands?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

Surely you are playing on the fact that most Asian languages have no distinction between "R" and "L". Don't worry I've been to Japan to listen to a native recite the Neil Sedaka classic in karaoke version "Oh Carol" and understand completely.

As for Steven Hu, I'd like to read the People's Republic of Communist China Statutory Law with regard to seditious or anti-patriotic activities before I can make an objective comment.

 

[Calliope]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,25777671-5000117,00.html

Do young have the will to make climate change sacrifices

THE prevailing attitude among young people today continues to be "do as we say, not as we do" when it comes to saving their planet.

Yesterday, the biggest youth climate change conference Australia has ever seen wound up in Sydney.

The likes of Al Gore lined up to inspire thousands of young people to discover their inner Captain Planets and solve the climate crisis.

The sentiment was noble but the focus unclear. Young people don't need to be persuaded of the climate crisis. Poll any group of people, young or old, and a majority will talk of their passion to live in a greener world.

But ask that same group how much they drive, or fly, or how many children they intend to have and you'll be amazed.

It simply doesn't add up.

They have all been brainwashed at school. Fossil fuels bad, self-interest OK.