wayneL
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Yes I have. Read it.
Yes I have. Read it.Yep, the melting ice is absorbing all the heat.
You have not responded to my last post to you for some enlightenment?
Record high temperature hit on day after Christmas
By MIKE LEEmikelee@star-telegram.com
Posted on Fri, Dec. 26, 2008
It's official. Friday's high temperature of 83 [at Fort Worth] was 2 degrees higher than the previous record set on Dec. 26, 2005.
That's about 30 degrees warmer than normal for this time of year.A storm system moving in from the Midwest began drawing warm southerly winds, which gusted as high as 35 mph, up from the Gulf of Mexico.
The wind blew away the overcast and dampness that prevailed in the morning.
"We got a break in the clouds, and that allows it to warm right up," National Weather Service meteorologist Jason Dunn said. The normal for this time of year is about 55 degrees.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24887816-5005961,00.htmlCHINA is aiming to increase its coal production by about 30 per cent by 2015 to meet its energy needs, the Government has announced, in a move likely to fuel concerns over global warming.
Beijing plans to increase annual output to more than 3.3 billion tonnes by 2015, said Hu Cunzhi, chief planner of the land and resources ministry.
That is up from the 2.54 billion tonnes in produced 2007, according to the ministry....
... However China has repeatedly defended its use of coal, pointing to its efforts to develop renewable energies while blaming industrialised countries for the bulk of the greenhouse gases that are already doing the damage.
It also emphasises that the per capita emissions of greenhouse gases of China, the world's most populous country with more than 1.3 billion people, are far lower than those of the US and other developed nations.
spooly (oops),
This animation depicts sea ice extent in each polar region from January 1, 1990 to December 31, 1999. Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Scientific Visualization Studio
Ultimately, summer 2008 finished with the second-lowest minimum extent in the satellite record, 9% above the 2007 minimum and 34% below average. A more diffuse ice cover and a thinner pack nevertheless suggested a record-low ice volume (ice area multiplied by thickness) at the end of summer.
As the sun set in the Arctic with the advent of autumn, seasonal ice growth was initially quite rapid, but slowed during early November. Average ice extent in December was well below average and very close to that measured in 2007. Heading into 2009, the Arctic sea ice cover is again young and thin; given this set-up, a continuation of well-below-average sea ice extent in 2009 is a near certainty.
Calliope2020.
Do you honestly think that anybody reads or looks at your overload of cyber- garbage? Or don't you care, and you just get your satisfaction from muddying the waters?
This report mentions an English survey in 2006 of 750 11 to 17 year olds. It showed that while they were concerned about climate change, they were optimistic they could do something about it.
Having grandchildren in that age bracket I can assure you that a similar situation applies here. From their indoctrination in state schools children accept as a universal truth that global warming is here and is caused by us.
Are they prepared to something about it.
Yes.
What?
Switching off lights and stuff like that.
But they have an inbuilt much more powerful universal truth;
They were put on this earth to enjoy themselves
Two incompatible truths. Which one should they follow?
Dum loquimur, fugerit invida Aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero
Or as the kids would say "stop wasting time, let's party.'
I feel that this thread is an exercise in futility.
Calliope
I'm just hoping you write a letter to your grandkids - along the lines of one of your recent posts ...
"Dear kids and grandkids
I suspect - no , I am absolutley sure , that there is no merit in these claims that the globe is warming, and that climate will change significantly as a result based on alleged models in various stages of development...
please thank me for avoiding a lot of bull**** spread by those scientific buffoons - thus avoiding the distress that they said you would end up experiencing - even avoid trying to understand climate and weather - even try to do something irrespective of whether or not man is responsible ...
signed
grandpa Calliope"
just keep nailing your colours to the mast fellas ...
I will enjoy (not) reading these posts in 10 years ...
yep - 20 years time they'll be inheriting our decisions of today.Coal is what will happen by default, indeed the single largest source of our electricity in 20 years time will be plants already built and they are predominantly coal-fired. ...
The majority of new nuclear power plants are being built in the developing world, where a less tight-laced bureaucracy and greater central control makes things easier.
China will commission two new nuclear power stations per year for the next 20 years, which from a global perspective is highly desirable, for 80% of China's power comes from coal.
India Russia Japan and Canada also have power stations under construction, while approvals are in place for 37 more in Brazil, Iran, India, Pakistan, South Korea, Finland and Japan.
At the moment around a quarter of the world's demand for uranium is being met by reprocessing redundant nuclear weapons
2020.
Do you honestly think that anybody reads or looks at your overload of cyber- garbage? Or don't you care, and you just get your satisfaction from muddying the waters?
Situation today is as follows. The key point is that we are very heavily reliant on the previous generation's spending on infrastructure in an industry where project lifetimes can span multiple generations.yep - 20 years time they'll be inheriting our decisions of today.
But 50 years - that might be a different story (maybe)
More of the same from the camp of CC disbelievers.
calliope I have the choice of listening to Walter H Thompson, or reading your posts ...
sorry, you lose again
...
ok it's finished (Churchill's Bodguard)
Hey man, what you write to your grandkids is for you to sort out - I can't help you...
btw, If I've misunderstood your post to me, it's probably because I can't really be bothered reading it in its entirety
If I've misunderstood your post to me, it's probably because I can't really be bothered reading it in its entirety
You must have read the Crikey.com article about Windschuttle, g.g. Made him look just a little silly, did it not?2020 you should submit an article to Quadrant Magazine, the editor Keith Windschuttle is quite open to publishing articles from both the left and the right on Global Warming.
He pays $200 an article and you might , with one article recoup some of the energy that you have expended on this thread , making silage out of a very complex argument.
gg
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