This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Climate change another name for Weather

Status
Not open for further replies.
Jump to new

It's overcast and bracingly cold here in Blighty... normal.
 
wayneL said:
It's overcast and bracingly cold here in Blighty... normal.
Click to expand...

The local pub closed because the rain came in through the roof and buggered up the keno and the pokies.

All that sit down money gone to waste.

I remember a Christmas in Bedfordshire, close to where you are I think, comely warm lasses, cider and a warm fire.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I remember a Christmas in Bedfordshire, close to where you are I think, comely warm lasses, cider and a warm fire.

gg
Click to expand...

There is nothing in the world like the good old fashioned English pub. I pray that Gordo's gaggle of goons and Stalinists doesn't mess that up too, before we kick his disgraceful @ss out of number 10 at the next election.
 
so does anyone believe that that famous left wing politician Arnie Schwarzenegger has made a major blunder in backing the new "low emissions" philosophy?

Or perhaps California will take more of our inventions - maybe twenty or thirty more - before the penny drops

http://news.smh.com.au/world/schwarzenegger-opens-aussie-solar-plant-20081024-57o0.html

 
2020 said:
and the representatives of Exxon etc who proclaim "all's well folks" - "don't bother to invent new technologies - you're happy with petrol guzzlers right ?" - are all honourable men ..
Click to expand...

wayne said:
Back to your disgusting misrepresentation of my views again. You are a lying **** over this. Time to stop that and grow up.
Click to expand...

wayne
if you cheer with the Exxon team , you run the risk of being labelled with them .

"tell me a man's company , and I'll tell you his name"
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The local pub closed because the rain came in through the roof and buggered up the keno and the pokies
Click to expand...
shame you don't scuba dive gg
You might appreciate the imminent threat to the Grt Barrier Reef.
And the odd tourist dollar to your part of the world

but wtf, the pubs will still stick around for a while - the locals will keep them going - who needs those flaming tourists anyways , hick.
 
2020hindsight said:
wayne
if you cheer with the Exxon team , you run the risk of being labelled with them .

"tell me a man's company , and I'll tell you his name"
Click to expand...

A pathetic and lowly straw man argument exposing your intellectual diminutiveness.

1/ The above implies that all research disproving AGW is financed by Exxon. Not so, not even close. A plain stupid implication.

2/ It also implies that all research that is financed by Exxon is automatically biased and corrupt. But it is proven beyond a shadow of doubt that much of the IPCC's research is biased, corrupt and politically motivated. A Hypocritical implication.

3/ It implies that I support Exxon and unrestricted use of fossil fuels. Bearing in mind my frequent postings on my full environmental position this is a most disgraceful, childish and slanderous statement, exposing an utterly and habitually mendacious character not worthy of spitting on.

In demonstrably failing to tag me with with the perjurous "fossil fuel lobby" label, you have successfully labeled your own self as an idiot.

I take no joy in pointing out the bleeding obvious, so please, grow a brain and join the ranks of adulthood or something.
 

The GBR is emblematic of the AGW swindle and a great case in point for my more common sense approach. You need to do a lot more research on the GBR before drawing erroneous conclusions.

The health of the reef is far more threatened by nutrient, sediment and pesticide pollution. All things that can be addressed NOW. The heat stress bleaching episodes observed in the last couple of decades coincide with El Niño warming and have nothing whatever to with AGW.

In fact coral reefs are more tolerant to temperature variations that the AGW fantasists would like us to believe http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22065659-5006786,00.html

The reef has survived much wilder temp variations than any pissy El Niño can chuck at it and has survived much warmer... and colder episodes in the past.

AGW losers strike out again.
 
Climate change is just another made up word.

How people treat the planet and its resources is what matters.



I pack 30 SPF+ so dont any of you ***** try and tell me otherwise
 
The reef has survived much wilder temp variations than any pissy El Niño can chuck at it and has survived much warmer... and colder episodes in the past.
Click to expand...

Waynel, could you detail these other times and cite your sources?

I dived the reef in the 1960s, when the coral had full colour, today the same places are a dead grey colour and you can literally see it breaking up, certainly no regeneration.

I also understand that it took millions of years of evolution to get to that stage but looks like breaking up in couple of generations.
 

More regular visitors disagree with you and AGWers.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story /0,25197,24811996-11949,00.html also try clicking on my previous link


The reef is 18000 years old and has survived ice ages and warm periods. Those bits that are damaged are damaged from tourism and agricultural runoff. DYOR I'm not doing all the work for you to have it ignored.
 
wayneL said:
Please read this article http://newsbusters.org/node/13698
Click to expand...
Seeing you added no commentary:
The article is a typical beat up from the loony skeptic camp. If it weren't for Morner's professional background, which he is on the record as having misrepresented, the skeptic camp would disown him.
Even the skeptics don't claim that sea levels haven't risen - only that they suggest not as much as the IPCC.
Try and find something that's actually worth reading next time, or make your points with some semblance of credibility.
 

Rob,

An amazing comment for someone with absolutely zero credibility.

As usual you have absolutely nothing to add except to try and debase proper debate. Next time, try practicing what you preach.
 

And are they not part of the matters creating climate change. Tourism, aircraft one of the greatest air polluters. Chemicals a phosphate poisoning the system, yes, not climate change.
 
explod said:
And are they not part of the matters creating climate change. Tourism, aircraft one of the greatest air polluters. Chemicals a phosphate poisoning the system, yes, not climate change.
Click to expand...
You are dead right about pollution.

But no, pollution and world wide anthropogenic climate change are not related.
 
wayneL said:
Rob,

An amazing comment for someone with absolutely zero credibility.

As usual you have absolutely nothing to add except to try and debase proper debate. Next time, try practicing what you preach.
Click to expand...
lol
That's got to be the funniest thing I have seen you write.
You trot out an ancient piece from a discredited professional, and I lack credibility.
At the same conference that Morner presented on the Maldives, he also presented on "Holocene Sea Level Changes, Coastal Evolution
and Future Prospects". His theme went along the lines (from his abstract), "Both the glacial loading models and the ICPP scenarios are
strongly contradicted by observational data for the last 100-150 years that cannot have exceeded a mean rate of 1.0-1.1 mm/year. In the last 300 years, sea level has been oscillation close to the present with peak rates in the period 1890-1930. Sea level fell between 1930 and 1950. The late
20th century lacks any sign of acceleration."
He was so far out of whack with his peers at INQUA that his role was "restructured". On the issue of sea levels, Morner's contribution to science now hold as much credibility as a bilge pump on the Titanic.
 
Rob,

You have zero credibility because you are beholden to a politico/religious position masquerading as science and presenting it as the inalterable gospel.

This is analogous to young earth creationists masquerading intelligent design as science.

Laughable and disturbing, in equal measure.
 
On the last day of the year I think it is interesting to review the outcomes of this thread since GG kicked it off back in September. It took about two months before 2020 and rederob realised things were getting out of hand, so they had to jump in to try to stem the tide of common sense.

Since then, they and their disciples have produced a constant and voluminous torrent of hot air mainly in support of the IPCC and it's dodgy scientists.

The main debate has been between 2020 and Wayne. 2020 has been punching above his weight and has been clearly outpointed.

This does not worry 2020 too much. He joins threads, not to contribute anything useful, but to muddy the waters and create mischief. So in his way he has succeeded.

As for the other alarmists, if you take away their leftist bias, they have nothing useful to contribute.

Thanks GG for starting this provocative thread. It has flushed out the climate extremists, and Wayne has expertly taken them apart.
 
Sydney's New Years fireworks are touted as being in the order of 5,000Kgs - and I was worried about the backyard barby:

 
roland said:
Sydney's New Years fireworks are touted as being in the order of 5,000Kgs - and I was worried about the backyard barby:
Click to expand...

Waste of money, could be better used to help some folks:

homeless
about to become homeless
hospitals
roads
education

to name the few, or anything else as everything or almost everything does not have enough funds.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more...