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Re: CLF 11.1% yield

if i did not own the stock already i would advise my mother to buy it..I would specualte that it may take till near sept for the stock to gain interest..
I would say specualtive but not as h/risk as some others ...property trust will give this some ''PROFILE and exposure to FUnds managers ...as it very low market capitaised it won't grab alot of attention but this move is better for CLF anyway...and you never know what investors want ..buy low sell high!
 
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Fleeta said:
Off the topic...what do you think the male/female ratio is in here? I reckon it would have to be 90/10...does anybody agree that the share market and trading is something that appeals more to men than it does to women?
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I believe it'd be a lot higher - any statistics available on the members?
 
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i justwanted to addd ....56s area it moves up to near 62s plus?
check historical orders and chart shows this could move ance again when dust settles
thats all i have to say...cheers
 
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I agree. $1.6 million dollars is what clf inteads to pay out. if they were to simply only pay out $800,000 and buy back shares with the remaining 800,000 I believe that the stock will rise to at least 75 cents +. As having a floor of 1,600,000 will definately put a floor on the stock.

Market depth will change dramatically on both sides very quickly Warren Buffett II have a look at the price of this stock in October.
 
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i've put a fishing bid in at 30 cents, it never hurts. with investors emotions i may be able to pick up 10,000 hopefully
 
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I don't know much about CLF - did a little bit of digging.

I seems as if the Managing Director and CEO of CLF is Theo Baker. He founded another company that listed on the ASX called Powerlan (PWR), he has since recently resigned as chairman of PWR - have a look at the chart history of PWR.

Call me a bit cynicle but it seems as if PWR (IT industry) was listed at an opportunistic time and was able to generate pretty good stag profits, since then reality has hit the price. Was the CLF listing an opportunistic move at the recently pumped up aged health care industry?? - obviously it has not been as successful. I also tend to think that the large dividend payout that was mentioned in the prospectus was largely there to generate interest in the company and stag profits for the founders on listing - it may not have anything to do with the companies ability to generate earnings and payout at this ratio in the future (I could be wrong).

I would also be concerned about the Theo's ability to transfer knowledge of the IT industry (PWR) and its synergies/relevance with aged health care (CLF)??

Note - all this does is put a question mark over management and founders, it does not mean the current price represents good/bad value

TJ
 
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tjames coments very fair to think that about clf..as PWR was a flopp in good times...property related CLF...hence main reason share price effected and others in sector notably VLL, PLF, ....before this announcement today the buying interest ws better in clf than most others the chart showed some higher lows and actually reached 65-67s daily has not touched this for sometime...however this news could be opportunty to get in hold wait for storm to pass.
companies like CLF who actually have a business up and running and have to pay tax then should meet forecasts or just lower ..however i agree someone in this company needs to do some major PR with some brokers who are interested in these sectors...fly by night don't think so.. fingers xxx we see Market buying from some big boys ...do you know anyonei nterested ??cheers
 
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Thanks for your comments you are right about management I'm still not sure about them. I don't think paying out $1.6 million dollars right now is the right thing to do unless you are 100% sure you'll be right in the future.

Like i said above pay out half and buy back shares with the remainer is there a minimum amount of shares a company can buy?

I still believe it is a good buy as if it gets cheaper it'll get bought out eventually anyway.
 
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depth of orders will change according market volatility...importantly in low volume stock it can be orchestrated if someone with large amoiunt is buying or selling...influencing the stocks DIRECTION ...could be panick selling ..sell is the word now .....contrarian buy on others fear ? whos right...key word is TIME...TIME in the market ....you often hear Fin /planner say that...sure
today buyers seem to think will mid 50s hold..sell out down here ...buy low ..sell higher...is that how shares work in theory..?
 
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i think your right seurchin VOLUME seems to have returned now bargin buying if you get some stock people are lining up at 50 cents and a little bit less now and are just hoping.
 
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stockman said:
i think your right seurchin VOLUME seems to have returned now bargin buying if you get some stock people are lining up at 50 cents and a little bit less now and are just hoping.
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Come on guys... stop bumping this thread with these kinds of posts.

The reality of today's CLF trading is that around $40,000 worth of shares have changed hands and the price has declined around 2%. This is similar to yesterday's trading so volume is not actually 'back'.

Also, people are not lining up at 50 cents. In fact, there's less than 150,000 shares on the entire buy side for CLF today (well 10 levels deep anyway).

I don't mind you presenting your case for CLF but please only comment on market action if it's significant.

And today's action is not significant.
 
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This is probably relevant one buyer has had enough 100,000 parcel up for sale at 56 cents.

It doesn't look very good.
 
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When a stock trades on average only 40,000 probably a day and you wanted to sell 100,000 why would you put a bid in of 100,000 as it is 100% sure that the market will see this figure and push the price down.

Do you guys think that people are doing this are just trying to push the stock down or are just stupid.

Anyhows i've gone out on a limb with this stock and i think i may have it totally wrong at that moment. Will be speaking to management late next week will keep you posted,
 
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stockman said:
Do you guys think that people are doing this are just trying to push the stock down or are just stupid.
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They are actually smart, there are trying to get rid of the shares as soon as possible. (placed in the queue)
 
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same..feel the sellers have panicked out here..we've been given a time frame for expected dividend...If the company want to buy shares cheaper then this is the way ..and time Pacifica a friend of mine bought that he's in same boat losing heaps..EPS down ..Clf eps?? change to propertytrust is good ?? why the fall.
npat ..lower than forecast but still making money on pensions of 85%secured.
anyway lets see.. brokers BBY phone 03 9226 0000 may be they know something we don't!
 
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Warren Buffet II if you have 100,000 shares that you want to sell and the share price of your stock has been falling constantly you never place a big order in. You slowly nibble away! They will not get their stock sold, they will only push the market down as evident today.
 
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Hey can you give them a call and find out what they say i've just had my wisdom teeth out so i can't bloody talk. Post it on here at least if they know anything we can get out of the thing. as at the moment i'm holding on.

13.5 % capital return makes no sense for stock to be falling??

It might be Warren Buffett II who is selling the 100,000 share parcel.
 
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Down over 12% today. 6.5 cents capital back 14% yield anyone know why it is falling so quickly??

That 100,000 seller has pushed the market down severley.
 
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Personally, I think that it is a funny situation which doesn't make sense. Perhaps there is something which we don't know. Perhaps the sellers are paniking. but hey, that's life.

In my humble opinion, I'd take a look at stocks like NMS which are heading North with a lot of potential and high announcement turnover.

Best luck with CLF and go NMS!
 
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Thanks for your comments DA i will take a look at it. This stock CLF has been my worse result in 6 years trading stocks. I haven't seen anything fall this much on no news at all. I got a friend to call BBY the IPO brokers they no longer do any research on the stock. Therefore i've got no idea how the stock has fallen so heavily?

Still huge capital return and they've got 13 million in the bank. Big sellers still in the market compared to what it usually trades. However, I think at 40 cents it must either be very cheap or it is certainly :goodnight

Good luck.
 
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