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CIL - Centrebet International

I can tell you Centrebet is one of the best if not the best of them all

they are innovative, they are the forefront of coming out with new bets and new odds.... they are dead easy to use and once you with centrebet you kissed goodbye all other platforms....

A business like that can only encourage more users

think google and other search engines, google is fast, clean interface and easy to use why would anyone use anything else

Now have to work out if this is enough of a competitive advantage to gain and retain customers.

Was it a growth plan? Or a profit downgrade wrapped inside a growth plan?

They just halved their FY10/11 NPAT from $16m to $8m together with lower dividend payout ratio.

"Given the short term inpact on NPAT, the payout ratio will be increased compared to prior periods"

This bothers me a bit given that cash generation is expected to be negative in FY11 and working capital facility of $10m is in place. From a potential long term shareholder point of view I would prefer a reduction of payout ratio or even no dividend as opposed to taking on debt to pay dividends.

Fair enough you got to spend money to make money, but the market is kind of impatient and couldn't care less if the NPAT will "rocket" in 4 or 5 years time. Not today anyway...

I know I am dreaming but hope the market is impatient it would be great to pick up CIL a bit closer to book value.

robusta are you still watching CIL? happy you didn't pay $1.70 back in September when you posted the above??? :p: finding a stock you really want is a great thing especially if your belief in that stock is later proved correct, but entering said stock at at significant bottom is the real icing on the cake

Patience is an incredibly valuable and profitable discipline in long term share market investing and that's because great timing requires great patience. :2twocents

Thankyou So_Cynical patience something I am learning the hard way. It is getting a little easier now I am almost fully invested, a company has to be a real bargain to tempt me to incur capital gains and loss of future growth from companies I would have to sell.

Will CIL go lower :dunno: i know its a very crowed market place, gambling is so well suited to the net and its so easy and cheap to set up a site, especially a dodgy over seas site...personally i do want a gambling stock but do appreciate bricks and mortar.
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That is the other thing that bothers me about "Project Rocket", will this cause a advertising, marketing and margin "arms race" between CIL and opposition? I can't imagine them sitting back and letting CIL take market share.

I think it more of the market said this plan probably mean no more take over, stock really price in a bit for take over activities.

so take over parties wont pay the price the Con family want so no more wasting time and let get the ball rolling and carry on with expanding the business...

with the founder has 60% in the business you can be sure he will look after the business just like Uncle Turner of Flight Centre and Uncle Simon and Uncle Don at Credit Corp :D

Love to see a company go down the organic growth path rather than try to buy the opposition and I still think CIL are cheap but might wait and see for a bit longer.
 
Dont like my companies keep getting take over CCV, WWA, FGE now CIL :)

but look like $2 is a decent take over price I'm happy with that price
hope all goes well with ATO on GST claim and get another 15c out of it

time to look for the next small cap :D
 
Dont like my companies keep getting take over CCV, WWA, FGE now CIL :)

but look like $2 is a decent take over price I'm happy with that price
hope all goes well with ATO on GST claim and get another 15c out of it

time to look for the next small cap :D
ROE,
Wondering what average purchase price you had and maximum hold duration please?
 
ROE,
Wondering what average purchase price you had and maximum hold duration please?

I got them $1.18

I hold as long as the business make sense, no time frame.
I pretty much subscribe to Philip Fisher Philosophy when to sell a stock.
GFC or macro factor doesnt affect my decision to sell ..I usually accelerate my accumulation process
when these events hit the market)

1. When I realise an investment is a mistake
(bought in but shortly after those facts are now fiction or regulation change or anything that differ from when I bought in etc..)

2. When Business fundamental changes
(business change course or move away from their core business, balance sheet
and cash flow weaken etc..)

3. When I really need the money to do something worthwhile
(paying for kids degree, move house etc..)
 
I got them $1.18

I hold as long as the business make sense, no time frame.
Okay thanks. An approximate 65% gain at todays price of $1.95 for a period at least greater than 18 months. The advantage being a 50% discount on capital gain for holding beyond a year and having investor status.
 
CIL no more ...money in the bank
now the waiting game for the GST bonus thanks to the tax man :D
my best estimate now any where between 50c-70c extra a share
 
CIL no more ...money in the bank
now the waiting game for the GST bonus thanks to the tax man :D
my best estimate now any where between 50c-70c extra a share

GDay

First time posting here. Just wondering if you have actually received your money yet? I called my broker (Interactive Brokers) yesterday and they haven't received any funds yet. Also what do you base the 50 - 70c figure on? According to the scheme booklet if the claim is successful the amount could be up to $90 million which I believe is closer to around $1 per share.

Cheers
 
GDay

First time posting here. Just wondering if you have actually received your money yet? I called my broker (Interactive Brokers) yesterday and they haven't received any funds yet. Also what do you base the 50 - 70c figure on? According to the scheme booklet if the claim is successful the amount could be up to $90 million which I believe is closer to around $1 per share.

Cheers

Money should be in the bank 31st August ..that when I got mine
50-70c is my conservative look on things, taken out lawyers fees, other cost and whatever else in between.

Also you should have received a new registry for your holding for GST claim should the day arrive...

I'm actually a bit sad to have to let go CIL ... this is one of the stock I probably hold for a long long time for dividend and I punt occasionally on sport games and I love to punt on CIL platform...

now I can still punt on CIL platform but I dont get the same benefits

Maybe I now look at TAH again :)
 
Ok anyone got any payment in their account today they dont know about?

I got one and I got no paper work, no email (maybe the paper work come later)

My guess is it's one of many Centrebet GST wins payment...which I have around probably 9K credit :)
 
Ok anyone got any payment in their account today they dont know about?

I got one and I got no paper work, no email (maybe the paper work come later)

My guess is it's one of many Centrebet GST wins payment...which I have around probably 9K credit :)


Comfirmed it's Centrebet Litigation Claim Payment
Payment description is the clue

One Registry LCR

Centrebet holding stores with One Registry After Take over
and an LCR letter also send out to shareholders after the take over

LCR=Litigation Claim Rights
 
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