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Well said, Miranda..
There is no reason for children to walk out of our National Anthem.

It is not the fault of the Muslim children who walked out of a school assembly when the Australian national anthem was played.

It is entirely the fault of the misguided principal who offered the primary students the opportunity to walk out and who encouraged them to reject this quintessential expression of Australian identity, in the name of “diversity”.
This is not a “storm in a teacup” as one Muslim leader put it.
Nor is it a test of this country’s “understanding of difference or tolerance”.

Singing Advance Australia Fair and raising the Australian flag are purely secular expressions of allegiance to this country.
They do not conflict with religious expression.
To spurn this deeply symbolic public display of patriotism is a statement of disrespect and disloyalty, which implies a rejection of Australian values.
You would expect an Australian public school principal to understand this.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/re...hat-dont-you-get/story-fnpug1jf-1227584563957

AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM

Australians all let us rejoice,
For we are young and free;
We’ve golden soil and wealth for toil;
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in nature’s gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In history’s page, let every stage
Advance Australia Fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia Fair.

Beneath our radiant Southern Cross
We’ll toil with hearts and hands;
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands;
For those who’ve come across the seas
We’ve boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To Advance Australia Fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia Fair.
 
Take the names of those children and NEVER pay them any welfare benefits !

Or get them to write out the words of our beloved national anthem 500 times.
 
Why should someone be forced to sing any song? Where is the freedom of speech crowd when you need them?
 
dutchie said:
I did not realise that they were forced to sing.
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Sing. Be in the room. Whatever. I didn't realise it was a requirement to access education to participate in such things. The Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing it for decades. They will not stand during or sing national anthems, or pledge allegiance. Funny how no one says a word about that.
 
McLovin said:
Why should someone be forced to sing any song? Where is the freedom of speech crowd when you need them?
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Well there is an old notion that when you go to school you do as you are told..... quaint idea that died about the time we started letting incompatible migrants into our great brown land. ;)

Anyone who doesn't admit to lip syncing or even humming through closed lips would either be a good singer or a liar IMO.:D We weren't forced to sing, but we were forced to assembly to get our weekly dose of indoctrination into Empire and Commonwealth.....God Shave Our Queen or Oztraya all Let Us Ring Joyce. :)
 
McLovin said:
The Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing it for decades. They will not stand during or sing national anthems, or pledge allegiance. Funny how no one says a word about that.
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That's not true is it .... they were brow beaten and pariahs for long time
 
Tisme said:
Well there is an old notion that when you go to school you do as you are told..... quaint idea that died about the time we started letting incompatible migrants into our great brown land. ;)
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You do as your told within reason. It makes no difference to the school or any other students if the religion of these children means they cannot be present during the anthem. At boarding school on Fridays they served fish as well as meat, rather than let the more observant Christian kids go hungry (and there was really only five or so), didn't affect the rest of us.
 
There is no reason for children to walk out of our National Anthem.

So if you are at an event, you just walk out for the national anthem?
Where is the respect?

If they don't want to sing, stand there. I am sure they went through it if they became citizens.

Is it the school or the children that did this?
 
McLovin said:
You do as your told within reason. It makes no difference to the school or any other students if the religion of these children means they cannot be present during the anthem. At boarding school on Fridays they served fish as well as meat, rather than let the more observant Christian kids go hungry (and there was really only five or so), didn't affect the rest of us.
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Did they attend assembly and sing the anthems?
 
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Gringotts Bank said:
It makes all the difference in the world! For these reasons:

- the numbers of Muslims is growing at a very rapid pace
- Islam, like most religions, is based in fear. It's a religion of fear.

So if you have numbers growing like that and they are all terified of singing or having their face seen or eating at the wrong time or facing the wrong way when they pray, or whatever it is (because Allah will get them), then that amounts to a dangerous growth of fear in the community. Fear destroys everything. To say nothing of the fracturing of community it causes.
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yeah its starting to make me wonder what a "commonwealth" of Oz means, indeed whether we are interested in being a "nation" anymore and just become a bleeding heart for the misfits of the world; we don't share much in common at all all these days.

And you are right, I think we are suffering a paralysis and have been stripped of the tools we would otherwise use to cajole or persuade people to have some pride in being part of a once secular society ....coz we sure a 5hit ain't one anymore.
 
Tisme said:
Well there is an old notion that when you go to school you do as you are told..... quaint idea that died about the time we started letting incompatible migrants into our great brown land. ;)

Anyone who doesn't admit to lip syncing or even humming through closed lips would either be a good singer or a liar IMO.:D We weren't forced to sing, but we were forced to assembly to get our weekly dose of indoctrination into Empire and Commonwealth.....God Shave Our Queen or Oztraya all Let Us Ring Joyce. :)
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that's funny.

hm hm hm... ADVANCE AUSTAYA FAIR.... hm hm hm hm ... hm hm ladi da di... ADVANCE AUSTRAYA FAIR.

ozzy1 ozzy! OI! OI! OI!
 
McLovin said:
Why should someone be forced to sing any song? Where is the freedom of speech crowd when you need them?
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People shouldn't be forced to sing the National Anthem, but people like us are free to come to conclusions as to these other people's committment to our society and country.

Where does "diversity" obstruct "commonality of purpose" ? Are the "others" going to actively contribute to taking our country down their path of religious autocracy rather than our path of secular cohesion ?
 

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