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ha ha, or maybe not a 3 year treck to the wilderness ROE!
You could sell right now and make a HANDY profit if you wanted some short-term cash!
Anyone who bought at close yesterday would be laughing all the way to the bank! Unfortunately, I only got this one around lunch, when it was still not nearly finished with its sell-off!
Look at what CCP actually is and that why I buy... not only the number is extremely good but the business as well.
Issues brought to light are as follows: 1) newly purchased debt ledgers have not performed as expected - this is contrary to management’s previous responses to our questions. 2) staff productivity remains a problem, due to rapid headcount expansion and; 3) costs in the business associated with staffing, management and infrastructure have increased dramatically.
We now believe there are either few or no economies of scale in this type of business or that present management are not capable of delivering those economies.
Management have always been protective of collection rates and prices paid for ledgers, consistently stating that those figures were commercially sensitive. It now appears such excuses helped management avoid revealing that the dramatic revenue growth being reported was being fuelled by constantly larger ledger purchases and focusing staff efforts on maximising the yield on fresh ledger purchases.
Underperformance of debt ledgers (lower debt collection rates) implies that management may have overpaid for them, reflecting negatively on its pricing discipline, which in the past, was perceived by us a competitive advantage.
With 65% of staff under 12 months of tenure, improving staff productivity, driving efficiencies of scale and hence profitability, might be more difficult than what was initially communicated to shareholders as the business now seems burdened with excessive costs.
Assumptions are being made that this is still a very good business, however I think just about every underlying assumption about this business needs to be questioned. Clime (CAM) sent an email to all Stockval subscribers today. Below is an excerpt of the relevant points which may cause some to question how good a business model CCP really has. Then again, these guys have been wrong to date, so no reason to think they are right now.
Why didn't they question this on the first profit downgrade and apply Uncle Benjamin Graham margin of safety?
If I was them I just take it in a chin and said we stuffed up, we sorry we lost your money....
I think fear start to take shape when you see your holding of $12 plummet to $1 and wiped out all gain as well a major capital loss.
Uncle Warren wont be proud Seeing people break his number #1 rule not to lose capital.
We are deeply disappointed with CCP management announcing a second profit downgrade literally weeks after we had spoken to them in depth about the business and received assurances that all was on track with their previous announcement.
NPAT guidance for 2008 is now $10-12m (before circa $5m in restructuring costs); previous guidance was for NPAT of $17-19m without any restructuring costs.
Again, we reiterate, this was completely unexpected after several in-depth meetings with management over the past three months. During these, we had asked MD Geoff Lucas about all of the issues that now form the latest profit downgrade.
Direct questioning about many of these issues weeks ago gave us comfort that another downgrade would not be forthcoming.
Management have always been protective of collection rates and prices paid for ledgers, consistently stating that those figures were commercially sensitive. It now appears such excuses helped management avoid revealing that the dramatic revenue growth being reported was being fuelled by constantly larger ledger purchases and focusing staff efforts on maximising the yield on fresh ledger purchases.
Also from Clime today....
"After our meeting with management, we have no confidence in their full year guidance. As such, we are not able to asses the intrinsic value of Credit Corps shares. The companys valuation has dropped significantly over the past three months from around $10.00 in October. Wether or not this business is investment grade will be considered post the half year result release on Thursday."
See what happens tommorrow.
I wiil wait for Clime to make a call and bail out if they bail out.
AL
Also from Clime today....
"After our meeting with management, we have no confidence in their full year guidance. As such, we are not able to asses the intrinsic value of Credit Corps shares. The companys valuation has dropped significantly over the past three months from around $10.00 in October. Wether or not this business is investment grade will be considered post the half year result release on Thursday."
Also from Clime today....
"After our meeting with management, we have no confidence in their full year guidance. As such, we are not able to asses the intrinsic value of Credit Corps shares. The companys valuation has dropped significantly over the past three months from around $10.00 in October. Wether or not this business is investment grade will be considered post the half year result release on Thursday."
See what happens tommorrow.
I wiil wait for Clime to make a call and bail out if they bail out.
AL
DONT FORGET, THIS COMPANY IS STILL MAKING A PROFIT!!!!
Looks like this is another Centro waiting to happen. I don't know why I have a knack of getting involved with these rats and mice. Not sure what to do - I'm averaging $1.10 now. Do I sell and take a bit of pain or are we heading towards 30c?
Man, managements credibility is SHOT, but how can they get profit guidance THAT wrong only a few days before its announcement? If they do, this stock deserves to be punished and management should never be employed again, in any capacity, except for maybe a Woolworthes shelf packer (not sure if they would use the right price tag though)!
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