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Car Experts - your opinions

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Hello folks,

I might need a car in the next couple of weeks. The potential new job does not provide one. I'm looking out for cars that are:

1. Sedan
2. Cost Range $15000 to $20000 (new or used doesn't matter)
3. 1.6l to 1.8l

So, I'm asking the car experts here in the forum, on the following about cars:

1. Reliability
2. Fuel Efficiency
3. Suitable for young professional
4. anything else i have missed out?

thanks in advance.
 
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check out Holden Barinas

I was loooking at small cars for my work to purchase about 6 months ago.

The Barina came up trumps.

*Don't skimp on aircon ( I thinks it comes standard anyway) You'll find it difficult to sell in an already competive market*

Don't get current model barina - It's made in Korea.

Buy a copy of wheels they have car reviews in the back for all makes and models.

Pay the extra $$$ and get RACV/RAC to do the once over.

Good Luck.

Just watching ACA - Ford Focus seems to be good (but starts at 20 grand)
 
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if you do a lot of driving, get something european produced:

Holden Vectra/Astra
Ford Focus

resale is better, much nicer to drive, more reliable
 
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IMO the best value for money car for low $20's is the Lexus IS200. Auto 1999 models with around 80,000 on the clock go for $22-25k, which is amazing considering you get a 2 litre Inline 6, luxury interior, great styling and handling, as well as Toyota reliability. Its fuel economical too. Servicing costs would probably be the only downside, but then again with it being a toyota not much will go wrong with it. Our family has had one for 6 years and not a thing has gone wrong!


Others to check out are:

late model ford focus
late model holden astra
current mitsubishi lancer
toyota yaris

if you want something with unreal fuel economy then the VW Polo TDI is the go, but a little expensive at $29,990. The Yaris is also very frugal.
 
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Toyota corolla would be my pick. Dunno the engine capacity but its probably 1.8-2L. 100 Kw of power- good bang for buck, and it doesnt use much juice because its got VVT (ask if you want a full explaination). But remember that only milk and juice should come in 2 litres (you want at least 5) .
 
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A reasonably late model fully optioned Honda Accord can come in 1.8l I believe... nice car for the money.
 
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For Focus got the NRMA / RACV mid size car of the year.
The Astra is a fun car.
There is a new Nissan coming out this month replacing the Pulsar that is meant to be pretty good.
Corolla is always a good pick and you can pick up a good used latest model Camry from that range. A very good sedan for the price, i personally prefer hatchbacks.
 
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Personally I would consider a Toyota Yaris. Fits your price range for the SPORTS model. Running costs,fuel efficiency,reliability, you cant go wrong with a Toyota!!!! These have an amazing amount of room for a small car.
 
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Milk Man, yes a bit on VVT please... me ignorant... is it a feature that is available to only Toyota or say, there's a Ford Focus VVT? do appreciate the space and reliability of the Camry. But as a guy who is below average size, I find it a bit big for my comfort.

I do prefer a car where it is a bit uncommon on the road. But thanks for those who contributed. Keep it coming.
 
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VVT - Means that the engine has Variable Valve Timing. It will improve the drivability of the engine a bit (relevant more in a manual than an auto) and cars with it tend to get better fuel economy (in general).

It's not a technology that's specific to any manufacturer although some mention it in the branding and promotion of particular cars, with others it's just buried in the technical details.

If you're looking for reliability and economy over the long term then personally I would be looking at a Japanese brand (not necessarily manufactured in Japan). Toyota, Nissan, Honda etc are all known for pretty decent build quality and overall economy. With Ford and Holden the track record for reliability is patchy to say the least. It depends on where a specific model is actually manufactured and whether it's made by the company itself or is simply some other brand rebadged.

I've had zero problems so far with my almost six year old Nissan Pulsar (apart from the damage from a tree falling across the bonnet whilst travelling at 85km/h). Only thing that's been replaced is normal maintenance items (oil, wiper blades etc) and tyres. It's had a pretty good shake on dodgy gravel / dirt roads and hasn't developed the slightest rattle so no complaints about it. About 6.7 litres / 100km in actual usage (premium unleaded as recommended by the manufacturer).

Certainly don't skimp on air-conditioning. It's generally standard anyway but even in Tassie it's considered necessary in a modern vehicle. Needless to say it makes even more sense in the mainland states. Lack of it will be a problem when it comes to resale and, contrary to popular belief, if you're driving at highway speeds it's more economical to run the air-con than open the window anyway (not so at slow speeds). Don't forget that air-con needs to be used regularly (at least 10 minutes every couple of weeks) to keep it in good order. This applies even during winter. The seals will dry out and the refrigerant gas will escape if you don't use it regularly.

Be aware that anything "hot" is a target for thieves and unwanted police attention regardless of how you actually drive.

It it's a used car then certainly get the RAC or whatever motoring organisation is in your state to check it out. Worth the $ IMO as it might save buying a lemon.

If you're unsure about what make/model but it's a recent one then I suggest that you rent one for the weekend and go for a drive. Be sure to drive up steep hills etc and at highway speeds to check the car out. Travel on roads you are familiar with so you can compare the car's handling etc with other vehicles you've driven. Having the car for a couple of days is a good way to see if you really like it and if it has any annoying features without having a salesman putting the pressure on during a test drive.
 
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Smurf 1976, great idea about renting a car even for a day to ascertain how it really handles in different conditions etc. I hired a SAAB9-5 in QLD for 6 weeks thru AVIS to ascertain a possible future purchase. It was enough time to make mind up!!
If you are looking at say a Toyota, just about all Hire Company's stock them. That in itself is a great sign too!!!!!
 
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Just bought a copy of 'Australian New Car Buyer', and from the info and stats they provided, I think fuel consumption and cost wise, the Honda family came in tops.

Honda Jazz
1.5L VTi $19390, VTi-S $21790 (i guess 'S' is for sports edition)
6.4L /100km in town and 5.7L/100km on highway

Honda Civic
1.7L GLi Sedan $19990
7.9L/100km in town and 6.6L/100km on highway

Honda Civic Hybrid
1.3L petrol/electric hybrid sedan $29990
6.5L/100km in city and 4.7L/100km on highway

And Peugeot's new 307 and 407 are diesel run!

anyway, enjoy the weekend.
 
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As a general rule diesels use less fuel (30 - 40% but it varies) and consequently cost less to run, use less oil from the ground and, contrary to popular belief, add less to global warming.

So for anyone considering a vehicle that's available in both diesel and petrol, at least take the diesel for a test drive. The modern ones, especially the turbos, have very good performance on the road.
 
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johnno261 said:
Personally I would consider a Toyota Yaris. Fits your price range for the SPORTS model. Running costs,fuel efficiency,reliability, you cant go wrong with a Toyota!!!! These have an amazing amount of room for a small car.
Anyone here currently own a Toyota Yaris or drove it before, can you give me some comment about it? How long did it take you to get use to the digital speedometer in the center? How does Yaris compares to Mazda 2?

Also, what do you guys think about the paint protection? Is that worth to have it? I am thinking to buy a silver Yaris in the next few days and had a test drive yesterday. Thanks.
 
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chansw said:
Also, what do you guys think about the paint protection? Is that worth to have it? I am thinking to buy a silver Yaris in the next few days and had a test drive yesterday. Thanks.

Paint protection is a huge waste of money. I bought a VX Senator a few years back, got sold on the paint protection and regreted it. After 6 months it was impossible to tell that it had been done. Keeping the vehicle clean and appliying a good wax a few times per year is more worth while. Interior protection is worthwhile though, in my opinion.

Cheers,
 
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Mcguiars make a quality interior protector.

but Auto Glym is the cream of the crop
 
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The least expensive vehicle your ego can stand would be my pick for a car.
 
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Whats the difference between a holden and a golf ball ?
You can at least drive a golf ball 200 metres
Can't go wrong with a FORD
Just wait till this saturday at Philip Island
Cheers Martin
 
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x2rider said:
Whats the difference between a holden and a golf ball ?
You can at least drive a golf ball 200 metres
Can't go wrong with a FORD
Just wait till this saturday at Philip Island
Cheers Martin


FORD :rocketwho
 
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Hi Kero,

I look forward to the day when you post the question:

Which should I buy: a Ferrari or a BMW?

Best wishes for the new job.

Julia
 
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