Bullmarket vs. tech/a (Re: CTO trade)

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

professor_frink said:

the problem with that dan, is ignoring one person doesn't eliminate other people quoting them and arguing back, so your left with a thread that you can't follow because it doesn't make much sense, which means bullmarket has won his battle by destroying the thread, just like the 'risk' thread a little while ago.

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Very true professor_frink (great name BTW, how did u ever work out the pickle matrix? ) I guess that is where it's up to the moderators to step in and maintain the flow of the thread whilst filing the excess in the round intray next to their desks. However as simple as this sounds it's not that easy unfortunately.

I guess I find it amusing that Tech/A has posted a trade, which was called into question by Bullmarket who wants Tech/A to verify the information contained in that particular post (which has been verified by WayneL, and honestly in my opinion Tech's integrity is more that enough) as he claims he has proof that no trades were taken at that time. Yet his proof is a txt document which could be produced from anywhere and he claims it's from comsec?

In short he wants verifiable proof to support his proof which is unverifiable as it's only a text document?

I have enough trouble trying to learn all this stock stuff as it is without the croutons floating in the soup!

Surely if someone posts something we disagree with, can’t we just ask them to clarify before we start the witch-hunt?

Anyhow enough about that from me.

Thanks to all who have currently posted their short term methods and please keep it coming. I find it very educational and appreciate the effort put in. unfortunately I don’t have anything yet to offer but thought constructive threads like this I will have something sooner rather than later.

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

My suggestion for the title for the back and forth threads,

"Bored? click here"

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

I don't care what the thread is called, but can I suggest that it be immediately locked?

Enough is enough already.

Cheers,
GP

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

Hi Julia

Boy, you really gave Bull M a mouthful. Obviously you are, like so many others, exasperated that this bloke has once again made a mug of himself. It's not the first time he's done it and it probably won't be the last. Let's just treat him as our own special form of amusement on this forum.....good entertainment value to lighten our moods during this testing time in the market.

Cheers
Bunyip

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

Joe, I think it is a great idea to move these unnecessary posts to their own thread and keep the original intact. Agree with the sentiment of others here that these posts become very exasperating to see good threads become so incredibly disrupted.

One suggestion - perhaps also consider editing the time in Tech's original post as Wayne is satisfied with it - that is if it's OK with Tech and hopefully prevent some other bored poster looking up historical course of sales and question it all over again

Suggestions for new name - Bullmarket's Beefs..... Beef Soup...

GreatPig, I don't think it should be a closed thread as I doubt that BM is going to change his ways. Better to have a thread that he can post away to and we only read it IF we choose. Agree with Professor that putting someone on ignore makes the thread difficult to read.

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

Simply delete the rubbish,mine and his and lets get on with it.

Realtime should be as close as possible to actual so that the full "emotion" can be factored into the trade.
This is very important in the learning experience particularly for short term trades.

No one likes posting a loser,---its human nature--but its more about what we do with them than not showing them.
I'm wrong more often than I'm right and have drawdowns in both discretionary and Longterm mechanical trades.

People like to know that who ever they are following is profitable as well---and I understand that---getting trading hints from a nett un profitable trader isnt a wise move.

For me I've never been greatly perturbed about posting my trades---prefering to live by the sword--or die by it--I have learn much sticking my head out,so will continue to do so.

Finally it was important that Wayne verified the trade simply for my own credibility to the populace who look for some help not to any individual poster. Ive questioned trades myself.
If I say Ive traded it I'm happy if needed by a poster to verify it.

Its simple to do and has been done I dont have a problem with it.

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

Hi Dan

Dan_ said:

............I guess I find it amusing that Tech/A has posted a trade, which was called into question by Bullmarket who wants Tech/A to verify the information contained in that particular post (which has been verified by WayneL, and honestly in my opinion Tech's integrity is more that enough) as he claims he has proof that no trades were taken at that time. Yet his proof is a txt document which could be produced from anywhere and he claims it's from comsec?

In short he wants verifiable proof to support his proof which is unverifiable as it's only a text document? ......................

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Let me clarify a few of points you make above which are not true

1) If you look back at all my posts you will see I never requested tech/a to prove his trade....in my original post I pointed out that the course of sales do not support the time and price tech/a originally claimed to have bought the shares (and that is undeniably true).....I then went on to wish him luck with his trade if in fact he did buy some shares but at no stage did I request him to prove his trade.

2) I also posted earlier that if Wayne is satisfied with the information that he has been given then that is fine by me but from my point of view nothing at all has been verified because the information passed on to wayne has not been passed on to me as offered by tech/a.

3) You say that the course of sales I posted is not verifiable.....imo your statement is so laughable that it's not funny I quoted Commsec as the source of the data and surely even you could muster up enough brain power to verify the data I posted, if you really wanted to, by contacting either Commsec, any major broker or the ASX itself who I know for a fact will all be able to verify the COS data I posted.

4) Tech/a offered to provide me with the name of his broker but when I took him up on the offer in an earlier post he has since backed away from the offer and so I now believe the offer was never genuine. The only info tech/a has given (voluntarily and unsolicited) me is a name which he claims is his true identity....it may or may not be for all I know.....I have since passed the name he gave me to someone for verification and they have emailed me back that name's address. This morning I have emailed those details to someone else who will be able to verify tech/a's alleged trade for me since tech/a insisted earlier that it be verified for me, but then backed off by not supplying me his personal details

I hope this clears things up for you

cheers

bullmarket

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

cmon bullmarket give it a rest. It's getting a little old now. And stop winking at people- it's kinda weird.

Re: Short term discretionary trades---Real time examples

Hi professor_frink

no problem - mrs bullmarket and I are heading away for a week on Monday and I'll try and get rid of the twitch

but if people make statements about me that are not true I am entitled to respond just like anyone else is

cheers

bullmarket