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BLY - Boart Longyear Group

Shares down 28% today, does anyone know what has caused such a sell off? I'm assuming a very poor earnings report
 
Shares down 28% today, does anyone know what has caused such a sell off? I'm assuming a very poor earnings report

From the announcement found on Commsec:


It would appear that Mr Market doesn't like their guidance....
 
Shares down 28% today, does anyone know what has caused such a sell off? I'm assuming a very poor earnings report

Report's not terrible but the outlook was negative. This is one serious smackdown and dragged the whole section with it... the market really doesn't know what to think about the mining boom. When MND's boss said it's all good everything went up 6%. When BLY boss said it's in a state of flux, everything's down 8%.
 

Its pretty clear.
If BHP has put a halt on Olympic Dam
then forget a resourse boom.
Aint going to happen. The knock on effect will be
very wide and very hard. From Government to
Associated suppliers to potential workers
to you and I.

Not a sector to be playing in in my opinion.
 

This is the most volatile sector second to mid-tier miners and gold. Certainly not for long term buy-and-hold investment, but it's the perfect sector to play in (if you know what you are doing).

BLY has fallen way out of whack compared to other drilling peers like ASL and SWK. Look for short term reversal to the mean.

Fundamentally, it probably has some balance sheet pressure that hasn't surface yet. It will come out over the next week or so - potentially. On the price action - you'd think a low is in at $1.555 for the day, but I doubt there's going to be too much of a bounce - may be back to the open price..

And 3 weeks ago when it got whacked to $2.06 and we were all "woo-ing and arh-ing" ...
 

I am going to read some old magazines - pretty sure that all the "experts" were of the opinion that this mining boom will be on for decades.

Applying my favourite saying "When everybody thinks alike, Everyone is likely to be wrong", either:

1. The experts were wrong.

Or...

2. The experts are right but the market is being a little touchy to a boom that is unlikely to be linear.

Cheers

Oddson
 
Applying my favourite saying "When everybody thinks alike, Everyone is likely to be wrong"
Oddson
Seems like everyone is thinking alike today!!!
China appears to be downramping. I'll be looking for some take over activity coming a few months down the track.
Then some stimulus. They have that capacity.
 

This chart is telling. This is a commodity that is still fairly abundant...

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=iron-ore&months=240

Unless the laws of supply and demand cease to exist in the Pilbara, I think we all know what's coming.
 
Seems like everyone is thinking alike today!!!
China appears to be downramping. I'll be looking for some take over activity coming a few months down the track.
Then some stimulus. They have that capacity.

Ha ha ha. I wonder if there will be a power law distribution to the failures / takeovers.
 
I don't get it. If the mining boom is ok, why just sell down the drillers?

BLY -36%
IMD -18%
ASL -10%
SWK -8.5%
ALQ -8.5%

These guys are only trading at PE 5-8x. Sure earning will fall substantially if no one drill anything anymore, but why not go sell down WOR / MND with PE 15-18x?
 

Because Pros tend to play in the bigger boys? Amatures and small time spectulators who love these kind of high beta stocks react to Chinese propoganda, and stocks are small enough to exagerate the moves?
 
Because Pros tend to play in the bigger boys? Amatures and small time spectulators who love these kind of high beta stocks react to Chinese propoganda, and stocks are small enough to exagerate the moves?

BLY, ALQ (aka Campell Brothers) and ASL are pretty big companies (>$B) - well until recently for BLY anyway.

I think it's more to do with balance sheet leverage and operational leverage. For WOR to respond to falling demand, they can just cut their headcount, pay some redundancies and they have trimmed their costs accordingly. BLY on the otherhand has a large fleet paid for with borrowed money so the cost base is more fixed.

Anyway - it closed on the low... unbelievable. I think I will read their report again.
 
Its pretty clear.
If BHP has put a halt on Olympic Dam
then forget a resourse boom.
Aint going to happen.

Really...so what's the recent track record of opinions and decisions made by BHP management?

Ravenswood?

Rio Merger?

Potash?

That US shale mob?

The random person that will be sitting next to me on the train tomorrow morning will have more credibility and economic insight than BHP management.

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Mining boom not over, the boom has stopped booming for sure but the super cycle is in tact, as any 10 year chart will show (Iron, Coal, Nickel, Gold, name your mineral commodity) ~ what we will have over the next 3 or 5 months is an opportunity to get into some great stocks very cheaply, ready for the next run up...it wont be as good as late 2008 but it will be good...all IMO of course.
 

SC

In your opinion do you think the high prices for ore ($100+) are sustainable across the cycle?

Cheers
 

It doesn't matter that BHP management has a record of medium to large blunders. They are the ones controlling the capex decision and when they said they are cutting back on capex... it happens (whether they are right or wrong) and there is a material decrease in money going into mining.

Anyway... here's a thought.

BLY made $100m in half year has a market cap of ~$690m.
ASL made $110m in full year has a market cap of ~$940m.

Can ASL really keep growing while BLY shivers?
 
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