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Personally i dont see how anyone can charge for education unless they can provide broker statements showing a track record better than a given index
Why would they even bother educating? It requires a lot of work to trade profitably.
Teaching a supposed profitable system to the masses, only reduces its likelihood of success in the future.
No it doesn't. How? I don't understand.
On the note of independent verification, any of us Mods are happy to look privately at your broker statements etc to see if members are trading profitably if you are not comfortable posting them in public.
This has been done before and settled many arguements.
Personally i dont see how anyone can charge for education unless they can provide broker statements showing a track record better than a given index
Why would they even bother educating? It requires a lot of work to trade profitably.
Teaching a supposed profitable system to the masses, only reduces its likelihood of success in the future.
p.s.Maybe some of his current students could share 'blow by blow' their trades &/or experiences day-trading options, updated on a regular basis.
For the benefit & discussion of all?
On the note of independent verification, any of us Mods are happy to look privately at your broker statements etc to see if members are trading profitably if you are not comfortable posting them in public.
This has been done before and settled many arguements.
It has also been shown in the past by various members how easy it is to knock up a dodgy one in a matter of minutes if one is creativly inclined.
cheers.
sorry to butt in to this intresting thread, just thought i,d point out this fact.
Again, I believe you said, you can show your trading success, so put up or shut up. Don't bother quoting me except for the last bit ... put up or shut up.
Mazatelli is right. Traders are competing against other traders. The moment a trader shares their secrets, then the number of people applying that successful strategy increases, reducing the returns of the strategy and diminishing its worth.
That's bunkum. No facts could ever support this view.
After reading this outburst (and your earlier posts) I find it hilarious that you had the temerity to label my earlier post as bunkum.I did, I posted heaps of trades from an extended period (including losses of course!!!) and they were removed from this thread and I was banned from this forum so I was given no way to defend myself or my record. I have posted heaps of periods on my forum and it's still up there now if you would care to do some research.
To Vicky, Did you EVER take my advice and close a trade early when it showed some profit or were you like 90% of the complainers and do none of what I kept screaming for everyone to do and that was to close trades early as soon as they have reached an "acceptable" profit? I bet not.
Did you ever do any technical analysis for yourself? Did you ever place any of your own trades? Did you EVER consider yourself responsible for your own trades or did you just "follow" Andrew's trades without thinking? And if you decided to just follow someone else's trades without thinking did you stop to think that maybe Andrew had a large bank and he was trading in a certain style? Did you ever take responsibility for your own trading and future?
Was I not ALWAYS telling people to make their OWN decisions? Was I not always telling you to close your trades when a reasonable amount of profit was available? I bet you just left all your trades to expire in order to extract every last cent like most greedy new traders. Did you ever study the strategy yourself? Did you ever do any paper trading (I'd like to see evidence of that if you did)? Did you even download my spread software and fill out your positions every day so you could know that you were in profit or loss and make a decision?
If you had put in even a little effort you would have learnt how to trade yourself and made your own decisions and not have just sat there and watch all your money disappear. You have yourself to blame and no one else I'm afraid and the more you rant on and on in here the more evidence you are providing to us all.
I never once suggested that people just sit and watch all their money disappear without lifting a finger to stop the losses. I never suggested that you read an ebook and never practice for yourself the skill. I never said to take no interest in your portfolio's performance and I certainly never said to leave your trades open without taking an interest in their progress. I also issued many warnings to people to not just roll over continuously. That would be insane and it seems like what you did.
Vicki, I deny responsibility for one cent of your losses and I am calling you a lazy loser who is now crying and trying to find someone to blame (hey! YOU started it!). If you weren't so lazy you would taken all my advice and done your own trades and learnt how to monitor and close and your greed would not have run away with you. I say greed because the only way you could EVER get yourself into this bitter mess was by refusing to take responsibility for your own investing and actions. Had you done what I told you to do you would still be trading today.
The FACTS are that you did not take it seriously and you lost your money just like everyone else who does not take the risks of stock market trading seriously and decided to take the "easy road" and just let someone else make all the decisions for you. I have always been the guy who was suggesting that all traders should learn how to trade by themselves so they can be responsible for their own profits and losses.
You could not possibly have any gripe with me because I was the only one out there (and here) who is trying to teach you something. If you choose to ignore all my warnings and lessons then you really have no right to complain and you certainly have no right to come on here and defame and slander me in front of the whole world.
Stop your little tantrum and take a long hard look at why you sat back and just watched and let all your money disappear. You're obviously in a lot of trouble and I would not want that for anyone but it's making you say crazy things because you think I'm not going to catch you out but I did now that people have heard what I tried to do to protect you they might not be so taken by your infernal and unjustified attack on someone who has only ever tried to help and educate people.
You are attacking the wrong person! Look in the mirror.
I posted heaps of trades from an extended period (including losses of course!!!) and they were removed from this thread and I was banned from this forum so I was given no way to defend myself or my record. I have posted heaps of periods on my forum and it's still up there now if you would care to do some research.
To Vicky, Did you EVER take my advice and close a trade early when it showed some profit or were you like 90% of the complainers and do none of what I kept screaming for everyone to do and that was to close trades early as soon as they have reached an "acceptable" profit? I bet not.
Did you stop to think that maybe Andrew had a large bank and he was trading in a certain style?
If you choose to ignore all my warnings and lessons then you really have no right to complain and you certainly have no right to come on here and defame and slander me in front of the whole world.
Did you ever place any of your own trades? Did you EVER consider yourself responsible for your own trades
I posted heaps of trades from an extended period (including losses of course!!!) and they were removed
Well bill, your moment to shine has finally arrived.
As I don't know much about your current training with regard to day-trading options.
Perhaps this's an invaluable opportunity to show the world the effectiveness of your current stategy, & maybe share with us your thoughts on some of your potential trades?
Maybe, just as an exercise, we could all paper-trade along with you, using a hypothetical bank of 20K.
Then when we're seeing 2-5K a week average, you'll certainly have the ear of a much greater audiance!
How 'bout it guys?..I'm in!
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A short term sample is probably not appropriate.Sounds fair to me actually.
But we all know there will be a reason it cant happen
If you're going to keep doing covered calls, maybe you should have a read of this on Wayne's blog:
http://sigmaoptions.blogspot.com/200...c-premium.html
A short term sample is probably not appropriate.
Even short term systems can have a bad short term period probably.
Are there some disclaimers like 'over 12 months' or the like to allow for this?
Or, is it a guaranteed $X over any month type thing?
If so, what an amazing opportunity to gain further business by proving it live here?
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