Bill Stacy?

[nunthewiser]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Awesome!

Hiya Billy ..... missed ya bud..

cant disguise that bedside manner champ.

I did give the benefit of the doubt on my earlier post but i think an ISP check maybe in order now

this is pure Gold this thread.

Thanks for the freakshow!

 

[nunthewiser]

bloody crooksters and scamsters all over the internet...

love ya work



TH why would ya waste your time on these turkeys m8 .....

personally would be worried about meeting any of these clowns with these personality traits.....

 

[trainspotter]

Vicki,

I am not Bill,

To me, what are you going to get out off going back to the pain that we experienced, you seriously can’t say you’re looking out for newbie’s, they are armed with more info then we started off with after the GFC, or you think everyone is stupid like you and I and didn’t shut down the trades when we should off on our own.

Vicki, its almost 2011,

a long time since we were involved in that strategy, free your mind off it , there is new money to be had every single day.

The system or product was never the problem, it was us believing that any trade we had on a stock would purely just come back.


Aim happy to catch up with for a coffee, or a beer to talk about what we went through.

Cheers Rob.

Sounds like Bill to me. Reads like Bill. Smells like Bill. It is Bill.

 

[nunthewiser]

Joe/mods.

how would i save this thread as a file to be held independently by me with no attachment to ASF?

it may come in handy.

I have no attachment to ASF in any means other than being a regular poster.
I am not a moderator.
I am an independant witness with no ties to ASF .....financially or otherwise.

 

[Rob73]

Sorry nunthewiser,

That’s a kind of cool name, lol lol

um nunthewiser, can I just call you nuno, lol lol thing

How much did you make in the last GFC , with your experience.

how much did you make trainspotter in the last GFC, with your experience, jeez under 3,000 posts, why are you still here, lol lol you poor soul, you’re not

what’s his name, tech/a lol lol brother are you, keep plugging away boys. Lol lol .

I think Vicki will meet me, or at least talk to me as we have something strong in common,

losing money and a lot of in short time, can be turned into a positive,

if you are prepared to accepted that and still want to trade.

But my guess is that there is only half a dozen true traders here, proberly less really, that could handle such a loss and get back into trading for their reasons alone.

Vicki, if you want to trade again, lose the are you with me mentalities, with a forum, they should not be pushing your buttons.

Cheers Rob.

 

[Vicki]

Joe/mods.

how would i save this thread as a file to be held independently by me with no attachment to ASF?

it may come in handy.

I have no attachment to ASF in any means other than being a regular poster.
I am not a moderator.
I am an independant witness with no ties to ASF .....financially or otherwise.

That's a good point, can that be done?
Because some of these unscrupulous characters seem to be masters of spin & flat-out denyal!

i.e. If you asked the 'subject' of this thread to accurately recall what sort of manner he conducted himself in, well I'm sure the answer would be "what thread, don't recall etc."

Or "nobody ever tried independantly to verify my system, that's rubbish etc."

I've experienced that once before, & very frustrating!

Anyway, where is Bill?
I think it's only fair, that if someone claims big things, that reasonable proof be provided.

Not just for me, but for all that are interested.


Vicki
p.s. they also like to play hypocryte, by doing something that they themselves just critisised in earlier posts.

 

[nunthewiser]

Vicki,s posts, i see them for what they are actuallly for

I actually think she has a hidden agenda here also as all her posts since starting are in THIS thread...and theres a lot of standing there egging ppl on .rallying the troops.. instigating others to do the dirty work.......... rings bells to me

...

mmmmmm

intresting.

hidden agendas flyin thick and fast.

so many similarities and fun and games.......

im intrigued at this new turn to the thread and i think any psychology students out there will benefit a great deal on this study into human behaviour and smoke and mirrors parlez.

Joe/mods.

how would i save this thread as a file to be held independently by me with no attachment to ASF?

it may come in handy.

I have no attachment to ASF in any means other than being a regular poster.
I am not a moderator.
I am an independant witness with no ties to ASF .....financially or otherwise.

Because some of these unscrupulous characters seem to be masters of spin & flat-out denyal!



Vicki

Great Idea Vicki .

rather intrested in your input here from the start also actually.

mind boggling

ISP checks all round i say!

 

[Rob73]

Vicki,

Do you want to trade again on your own with the experience that you have already gained.

Or are you just going to continue to be a bitter old person about past experiences,

Sorry I just want to know with what you went through,

are you able to place a trade on your own without any influences, apart from market makers

 

[Vicki]

Yes, further to the point of unscrupulous characters.

They appear to have an uncanny habit of disappearing when the 'light of day' is shone upon them, not unlike vampires cringing from the first rays of the morning sun, before they spontaniously conbust, & thus return to the shadows from whenst they came!

Where's he gone?

Vicki
gotta go 2 bed, 'night all.

 

[nulla nulla]

That’s the reason why I didn’t bother with your last post, Nulla Nulla

OH, have you just got home from work and hate the world, lol lol, its so predictable,

go Nulla Nulla, it must be some artifact ,or some lost city or surf spot somewhere, you go Nulla Nulla is that what you are called.

Nulla Nulla, I will give you the respect of having capital letters on your name, lol lol,

seriously Nulla stop miss quoting what I say,

How much do you trade off your own money, Nulla lol lol

Cheers Rob

I trade my own capital, the amount is of no consequence to you. And I am not here to make wild boasts about how much I made over the last 18 months so I can sell a system that doesn't stand up to objective scrutiny.

How interesting, comments off great benefit get removed quicker than you can read it, mmm something to think about there.

and there is no blank in the numbers, lol lol

So you can give it but can’t take it, is that right, sorry tech/ a , what you are properly tucked into bed by now.

Perhaps in your excitement, with your new moniker, you forgot to click "save post".

Vicki,

I am not Bill,

To me, what are you going to get out off going back to the pain that we experienced, you seriously can’t say you’re looking out for newbie’s, they are armed with more info then we started off with after the GFC, or you think everyone is stupid like you and I and didn’t shut down the trades when we should off on our own.

Vicki, its almost 2011,

a long time since we were involved in that strategy, free your mind off it , there is new money to be had every single day.

The system or product was never the problem, it was us believing that any trade we had on a stock would purely just come back.


Aim happy to catch up with for a coffee, or a beer to talk about what we went through.

Cheers Rob.

Calls Vicki "stupid" then offers to "catch up"...An amazing display of interpersonal skills. Bet it works wonders.

Sorry nunthewiser,

That’s a kind of cool name, lol lol

um nunthewiser, can I just call you nuno, lol lol thing

How much did you make in the last GFC , with your experience.

how much did you make trainspotter in the last GFC, with your experience, jeez under 3,000 posts, why are you still here, lol lol you poor soul, you’re not

what’s his name, tech/a lol lol brother are you, keep plugging away boys. Lol lol .

I think Vicki will meet me, or at least talk to me as we have something strong in common,

losing money and a lot of in short time, can be turned into a positive,

if you are prepared to accepted that and still want to trade.

But my guess is that there is only half a dozen true traders here, proberly less really, that could handle such a loss and get back into trading for their reasons alone.

Vicki, if you want to trade again, lose the are you with me mentalities, with a forum, they should not be pushing your buttons.

Cheers Rob.

Now trying to discredit everyone, many of whom have been investing/trading for years and have demonstrated their market knowledge time and time again.

Vicki,

Do you want to trade again on your own with the experience that you have already gained.

Or are you just going to continue to be a bitter old person about past experiences,

Sorry I just want to know with what you went through,

are you able to place a trade on your own without any influences, apart from market makers

And back to baiting Vicki. Strange how Bill dissapeared and Rob pops up to divert the discussion. Agree with Nunthewiser in that the moderators might like to check IP addresses for some of the posters.

 

[Joe Blow]

Agree with Nunthewiser in that the moderators might like to check IP addresses for some of the posters.

IP addresses have been checked. No match.

 

[nulla nulla]

IP addresses have been checked. No match.

Thanks Joe.

 

[Vicki]

IP addresses have been checked. No match.

I swear I saw a link to ashmax on bill's new identity.
Must have been removed.

*Link Removed*

Looks very similar to Bill's!!

Here's their forum showing a sub-forum for Bill and one for Rob's website.

http://www.ashmaxforum.com/Home/tabi...9/Default.aspx

A bit of digging around on google could probably show up more links between the two.?

But I could be wrong, I'm not the most internet savvy person.

Vicki
Gotta run, tak'n the kids 2 shcool.

 

[prawn_86]

Vicki,

I have to agree with what a few others have said. Instead of continually stirring the pot, why not focus more energies on trying to learn new skills etc as there is heaps of free valuable info on this site.

If you dont have anything new to add then i think your job here is done.

 

[awg]

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Confidence_trick

 

[Vicki]

Vicki,

I have to agree with what a few others have said. Instead of continually stirring the pot, why not focus more energies on trying to learn new skills etc as there is heaps of free valuable info on this site.

If you dont have anything new to add then i think your job here is done.

Hi Prawn,
O.K. I'll heed your advice...I'll wrap it up.

It just stirs up old memmories of having slick shysters run rings around 'soft' targets.

Yes, I do share responsibility for my losses, [I curse myself almost everyday for being so gullable].

Then I also think of certain people, that know exactly what you're in for,
But gladly seek-out & accomodate your ignorance!

I genuinely was interested in the validility of Bill's 'system', but I geuss your right, he won't or can't back-up his 'success'. [Bill hid from T/H].
Let this be an example to other newbies!

I do Intend to read more subject matter on this site, as I've already seen some trading Q's asked on other threads that I've often asked myself.

I wish I had've discovered this forum years ago.
Just reading through the archives, I found material directly relevant to the "DIMITRI" strategy, which would've made me think twice!

Anyway, I'll sign-off on this thread, & join in with other parts of this forum.


Cheers,
Vicki
p.s. It appears yet again, another less than upstanding character, slips quietly away, back into the shadows.

 

[J&M]

I don't know you at all Vicki
by your posts you seem a smart intelligent person
which you need to be to have 2 houses and $150,000 in the bank
You need to ask yourself the following questions

When you lost your first house why every did you keep investing with Bill
Then you lost the second house and you still kept investing
Then with 2 houses gone you spent another $150,000

The sequence may not be correct but I think you can see what I am saying

Why ever did you keep investing with this Bill.
Did you seek alternative advice ?
From a solicitor or investment planner or A.S.I.C
Didn'T the alarm bells start ringing loud and clear

Some people get caught once but you got caught 3 times


castles made of sand as jimi said

 

[nunthewiser]

castles made of sand as jimi said

blessim.

 

[Vicki]

o.k. my last post on this thread!
It wasn't as straight forward as that at the time, as it appears now.

Someone else described it perfectly, when he joked about people being "amped up" & "you can do it".

Cultish 'herd' mentality can be a very seductive, powerful & potentially dangerous state of mind, especially when their services include helping people to mortgage their homes, [a full service opperation]

Before you know it, your throwing good money after bad, & also trying to keep-up on interest payments at the same time [all the while, you have this ' I want/need to believe mentality]

Of course, eventually the whole 'house of cards comes tumbling down'.
Ironically, just as you start to actively question your educators.

My lesson, question everything, & so would advise any newbies to have the confidence to ask 'silly' questions from more experienced people, such as members of this forum.

Anyway, as promised, I'm signing-off this thread!

Vicki
p.s. speak soon on another thread.

 

[TeleSonic]

Rents one has a dealer principal (so he says)
Who would be doing cart wheels if he was directed to this site.
OK looked up his name and his business.
Zippo.

If you wish to go shark fishing go here.

Dont need a boat either.

Would seem Bill has been an authorised representative of at least 2 AFSL's, but does not (has not) ever had his own. He is not currently an AR of an AFSL, and therefore should not be talking, selling, mentoring, or otherwise doing anything in the public arena regarding trading / investing.

I read a comment regarding him being licensed when he speaks. No AFSL holder is going to appoint an individual as an authorised representative for a speaking engagement, and then take him off their books when he walks off stage.

NEVER take advice from, invest with, or otherwise have financial dealings with anyone who does not either hold an AFSL, or is an authorised representative of an AFSL. You can search the ASIC registers and this is so easy to do, it is the most basic due dillegence.

The other point I will make, is that if an individual or company checks out with ASIC, and you decide to go ahead with their product / education / fund / whatever, NEVER hand over your hard earned directly to the authorised representative. ALWAYS make payment directly to the AFSL holder, and ensure any invoice or receipt you get has the AFSL company name, ABN, and AFSL number on it.

Also, being RG146 certified in itself means nothing. It's the most basic educational requirement, and only one of several requirements, to be allowed to operate as an authorised representative of an AFSL.