Bill Stacy?

[Wysiwyg]

Risk usually also runs between 2.5% and 20% which means you can potentially lose between $500 - $3,000 per trade if you get it wrong.

This is the type of quote that exposes the huge risk of trading this method. Potentially 20% may not be the worst. Poor management of risk but not your risk ... right.

 

[OneDayWealth]

How could fools & babies massacre you, you're a grown man aren't you?

Destroying a persons reputation?
I think you've done a good job of that yourself!

Anyways, what does it matter what us insignificant fools think anyhow?
You're the one mak'n the big bucks 10-25% per/wk?

Oh come on, just show one us your course, it can't be that bad can it?

Yawn. Vicki

It's easy to massacre someone with lies and innuendo.

Anyone can make 10-25% a week. Nothing really special about that.

I'm not giving my course to anyone for free. Especially (after today!) not you guys - crickeys.

Abuse, defame, insult, tear strips off and then ask for thousands of dollars of products for free? lol...that's so rich I can't even begin to describe how ludicrous that sounds.

 

[OneDayWealth]

This is the type of quote that exposes the huge risk of trading this method. Potentially 20% may not be the worst. Poor management of risk but not your risk ... right.

I never claimed there was no risk and it's not huge. But the real risk of trading options is a 100% loss. Obviously.

If you want to let it sit there and just degrade to more than a 15% loss that's your problem and not the fault of any strategy. If you are losing, exit your trade. It's not hard.

Your third sentance makes no sense.

What's your name?

 

[Vicki]

I'm happy for someone who considers themselves the voice of this forum to contact me directly at the phone numbers listed previously for a private chat and explanation of my methods and a tour of my strategy and the site. I've always got time for curious new investors and inquisitive experienced traders alike.

If you think I have gained free publicity I am willing to make a chunky donation to your favourite charity to compensate. Let's see if some good can come from this warm debate.

Well again, double that 20k bank, verify it, then hand the Mod. a bank cheque for 20k made out to the Royal Childrens Hospital!

people may hold you in a higher regard then, & if they dont, so what, you've publically donated to worthy cause.


Go'n 2 bed

 

[wayneL]

Excellent. All done without any lending. Just the way I like it.

LOL priceless!

So trading $1,000,000 of currency on margin isn't borrowing but trading $1,000,000 of CFD on margin is?

Bill, you're a laugh a minute.

 

[wayneL]

No one here has said anything of any substance to discredit me and the reason for that I've done nothing wrong and in fact I have provided a fair and valuable service to hundreds of appreciative clients. I even offered many forms of proof that I am a real trader with real results that have been published for a very long time but you guys still attacked and destroyed.

Now this is incontrovertible evidence that you are deluding yourself.

So far we have established:

You promote the least efficient instrument for daytrading.
You do not fully understand the instrument you trade.
Have zero understanding of alternative instruments.
Are not prepared to offer real time proof of success.
Have great difficulty understanding simple concepts.
Use logical fallacy to attempt to defend yourself.
Do not understand money/cash management.
That you believe this is doing your reputation any good.

And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure I could find more going back trough this thread.

Your choice dude, but I'm reminded of the old adage - When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

 

[nulla nulla]

I am amzed at the new levels of idiocy constantly being achieved on this forum. I never guarantee returns I guarantee satisfaction and to stay as personal hot line coach until they are satisfied. I also fly to their city and stay with them for a week (at a motel nearby) and then on the phone all day until they are ready to let me go. Usually months and every single one of them is very happy. Have you tried hiring a personal trading coach? 50k minimum! Try it.

This contradicts an earlier posts where you advised that you don't answer the phone when you are trading.

 

[nulla nulla]

Interesting pricing structure for a 'non professional' that abusers their students for not thinking for themselves as opposed to strictly following a system, what the heck are you teaching ... guidelines like hand drawn trend-lines ? I assume paying this much (actually ... that much ... is extreme ... they are hoping perhaps for a mechanical system ... which in a lot of places could be purchased at 1/40 of the cost ... even then if purely mechanical, most, I mean most, traders would have difficultly following it, even with 3 - 6 month hand holding period).

Why should you have someone try it out, to tell you what YOU already know !

Oh Golly Goodness, to prove it to others you might also want or like as clients!
sillybilly.




HUNDREDS OF MEMBERS!!!
PAYING UP TO 40K EACH!
So you're already a multi millionaire then?

Offensive jerk?
Think you might want to be careful with those insults Bill.
[It sounds unproffessional]
And there's a lot more of us than you.
Australia wide, & you might just bump into somebody that remembers you & your mouth, especially if they've lost money at hands of wealth 'spruikers'

Vicki

I don't care and would LOVE to meet any of you who abused and spread lies and inuendo. LOVE love love it! Can't wait!!

Don't be silly yourself Vicki. My course costs $5,000 (check). The extra personal coaching is a product that I was asked to make so someone could buy it with a proper invoice. Not sure how it made it onto the "featured" items on my shopping cart. It's been removed now.

Most of my courses were sold for $1,800, about 1/4 at $5k and I've sold about half a dozen personal coaching gigs.

"I" need to be careful of the insults? I'm being massacred here by fools and babies and *I* have to be careful? I don't think so. If anything it's you guys who need to be careful. Destroying a person's reputation and causing real business harm is illegal and a low act which many of you seem to be reveling in so that really does say more about you guys than it does about me.

I'm an honest guy with honest and real results selling a real product to real people who really appreciate it. My conscience is crystal clear.

For the record I don't actually want any more clients. Is that what you guys think? I want more clients? I wouldn't even have most of you as members...I'm just here to defend myself not to get more clients.

That's the last thing I want. Too many other things going on to "need" to do anything. I don't and have never "needed" to sell any courses to anyone. I was forced (by constant suggestion) to get what I do on tape and made into a product that people have loved incidentally. But I'm guessing that you guys would never believe a real testimonial without wanting to see proof of their trading as well...lol

Hundreds paying $5k each plus six paying $40k each generates $740k a year.

Not bad for a person that learnt all about trading options in one year of trading them started teaching others the secrets of his success.
The reality would be that you (and anyone else reading this thread) would have learnt more about how to trade and manage your trading from reading the posts to this thread over the last 24 hours.

 

[tech/a]

This is the most amazing example of "Self Assassination" I have ever seen.

I guarantee you that if you Google Bill Stacy this thread will keep rearing its ugly head for years to come.

From a business point of view ---sheer Lunacy.
Look back on others who have screamed innocence.

Shappell Corby
Lindy Chamberlain
Bill Clinton

Vicki
I congratulate you--Job Done.

 

[mazzatelli]

Correct. I'm not in this to make money buying something for 95c and selling it for 96c. I need a decent move. Not massive. Just decent enough so all those things have little effect on the bottom line. A "decent" move will happen several times a day but in my experience most people will rarely catch more than 3 or 4 of them a week. Any one of which could supply more than enough profit to live on.

I don't agree that you are profiting from a decent sized move. You're overcoming slippage and brokerage by investing the entire "bank".

If analyzed on a per contract basis, the spot moved ~10-15c, with the option +5.5c
That is only $55 gain per contract. The brokerage fee by itself is $155.75 [assuming bulk charge]. You'd need to trade at least 3 contracts just to cover brokerage. Risk $2.7k to make $0 [90c/contract] before incremental gains.

If the option were to go only 5c against you [and assuming one can offset at that level] thats a total loss of:
([$50 x 22] + 155.75) = ~$1,255

That's ~6.3% loss on a 20k "bank".
No thanks.

 

[OneDayWealth]

Well again, double that 20k bank, verify it, then hand the Mod. a bank cheque for 20k made out to the Royal Childrens Hospital!

people may hold you in a higher regard then, & if they dont, so what, you've publically donated to worthy cause.


Go'n 2 bed

If I can be assured that I will be treated with respect I might be open to something like that. Who'll put up the cash though?

 

[wayneL]

This is the most amazing example of "Self Assassination" I have ever seen.

I guarantee you that if you Google Bill Stacy this thread will keep rearing its ugly head for years to come.

From a business point of view ---sheer Lunacy.

I wonder if Bill will wake up this morning and realise what he's done?

<edit> Nope

 

[OneDayWealth]

Now this is incontrovertible evidence that you are deluding yourself.

So far we have established:

You promote the least efficient instrument for daytrading.
You do not fully understand the instrument you trade.
Have zero understanding of alternative instruments.
Are not prepared to offer real time proof of success.
Have great difficulty understanding simple concepts.
Use logical fallacy to attempt to defend yourself.
Do not understand money/cash management.
That you believe this is doing your reputation any good.

And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure I could find more going back trough this thread.

Your choice dude, but I'm reminded of the old adage - When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

I'm not in a hole. If anything they will come and see how I defended myself against nameless stone throwers. You are worng on your points above by the way. I stand tall.

This contradicts an earlier posts where you advised that you don't answer the phone when you are trading.

No it doesn't. If I'm coaching someone I'm not trading myself.

Hundreds paying $5k each plus six paying $40k each generates $740k a year.

Not bad for a person that learnt all about trading options in one year of trading them started teaching others the secrets of his success.
The reality would be that you (and anyone else reading this thread) would have learnt more about how to trade and manage your trading from reading the posts to this thread over the last 24 hours.

You're so smart. That's over a 3 year period and what's your problem with that? Don't like people selling products? Don't like people making money? There are countries that you can go and live in that will cater to your politics.

This is the most amazing example of "Self Assassination" I have ever seen.

I guarantee you that if you Google Bill Stacy this thread will keep rearing its ugly head for years to come.

From a business point of view ---sheer Lunacy.
Look back on others who have screamed innocence.

Shappell Corby
Lindy Chamberlain
Bill Clinton

Vicki
I congratulate you--Job Done.

I think it's an excellent thread and I hope it stays up high! It shows how I was attacked by mjorons and I stood and defended myself. It will also show how you are all nameless gutless babies with nothing better to do than tear down people who dare to go out and do something different. Typically Australian. Good onya.

I don't agree that you are profiting from a decent sized move. You're overcoming slippage and brokerage by investing the entire "bank".

If analyzed on a per contract basis, the spot moved ~10-15c, with the option +5.5c
That is only $55 gain per contract. The brokerage fee by itself is $155.75 [assuming bulk charge]. You'd need to trade at least 3 contracts just to cover brokerage. Risk $2.7k to make $0 [90c/contract] before incremental gains.

If the option were to go only 5c against you [and assuming one can offset at that level] thats a total loss of:
([$50 x 22] + 155.75) = ~$1,255

That's ~6.3% loss on a 20k "bank".
No thanks.

You don't understand.

Why don't you all sign your names? Too scared?

 

[OneDayWealth]

I wonder if Bill will wake up this morning and realise what he's done?

<edit> Nope

I'm proud of this thread. You guys should all be ashamed of yourselves!

 

[wayneL]

I rest my case.

 

[prawn_86]

wow, Bill musn't have got much sleep last night.

Amusing start to a monday morning for me however

 

[OneDayWealth]

I rest my case.

I wish you would but somehow I doubt it...lol.

What's your full name Wayne?

 

[Wysiwyg]

This is the most amazing example of "Self Assassination" I have ever seen.

I guarantee you that if you Google Bill Stacy this thread will keep rearing its ugly head for years to come.

From a business point of view ---sheer Lunacy.

Could be aiming for the sympathetic types as (hopefully) all the gullible types are now enlightened.

 

[OneDayWealth]

wow, Bill musn't have got much sleep last night.

Amusing start to a monday morning for me however

I slept like very well actually. As I do every night.

By the way, what's your full name?

 

[satanoperca]

Hi Bill,

Think of the wonderful business opportunity that lays in front of you on this forum. All you have to do is provide some live trades, something that will keep the wolves at bay and prove that you system/trading plan works and is profitable. If you were able to do this then I'm sure you would have hundreds of ASF members lining up at your door to get into your courses.

By trying to defend yourself and then get caught up in spit for spat communication has not done your professional identity well. So get on with it and show everyone the money, some live trades.

It really is that simple or just continue playing with the wolves (some of them have well and truly proved their credentials) as they will eventually eat you no matter how good you are.

Cheers

Have a great day trading