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ok, same story - found it on the website for Mt Palomar.
http://mr.caltech.edu/media/Press_Releases/PR13030.html

images available here :-

http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~nlaw/lucky_palomar/
http://www.astro.caltech.edu/palomar/AO/luckycam.html
 

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Here's a poem just posted. As I say there , I was lucky enough to hear an interview with Phillip Adams today . - brilliant man !
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=201409&highlight=adams#post201409


As I say in the poetry thread .. he makes / made a couple of points
a) the fact that an asteroid caused the death of the dinosaurs is the only reason man is here!!!
b) we are a fluke result of that incident !!
c) we should nonetheless marvel at the fact that we are alive; and
d) how could anyone be bored with this adventure called "life"
 

Interesting stuff wayne, I had previously thought the cyclic model supported the Big Bang - Big Crunch theory, but here there is no crunch, just successive Big Bangs. Personally, the concept of ignoring what happened before the Big Bang because time and matter only exist after the Big Bang never sat well with me.
Could this theory also support Branes ? theoretically

In a nutshell ... after trillions of years of expansion, matter disappears, protons and quarks decay and all that's left is radiation.
When the Universe is in this state it loses track of time.
The precursor to a new Big Bang.


Here is a another video of the project he mentioned by NASA.

L.I.S.A - 3 space craft organised in an equilateral triangle exactly 5 million km apart to search for gravitational waves.
This video uses text to speech and gets on your nerves though!

 
Then where did the big bang come from?

Carl Sagan on big bang theory , and the arguably unnecessary step of "god's intervention"
You can always ask "well then what happened before that?" The god hypothesis explains absolutely nothing; it gets us no closer to an answer. It's just a continuation of the same infinitely regressing line of questions
 
It`s time to grab Leela and K9 for another journey in the Tardis because come middle of next year (2008) we will be closer to understanding the Universe we live in.With operation of the multi billion euro Large Hadron Collider to take place there (apparently) will be many questions answered.


For all the people that want to know this is an event that will reveal the "origin of matter" by colliding protons at near speed of light, which as i understand will replicate the Big Bang.Exciting times hey `ol chap.Would you like a jelly baby?

The video below gives an overview of this massive project.The other parts can be found at youtube.

 
A good show started last week on the history channel called "The Universe" on Sunday nights. Missed it last night but the first program in the series was very interesting explaining how the big bang theory was arrived at through generations of collective knowledge. Einstien had the answer but did not acknowledge his own proof, that was done by a Catholic priest of all people.


It was a gripping episode even for non-science people like myself. I hope I remember to watch it next week. Highly recommended.
 
Mostly distant from the experience and formalities of another year end I felt drawn to look at the bigger picture again.The incredible amount of information coming in via image from thousands to billions of years ago keeps one `in touch` with the universal forces in constant motion.In comparison to the universe a single human life on this planet is insignificant.

When a supernova takes place, the "energy" is greater than all small mind imaginings combined.Briefly ...


O.k., no one does this (well at least no one i know) and it is as natural/normal as tidal movement via the gravitational pull from the moon here.I`m disappointed that life (if any) is so far away from us.It may seem incomprehensible but with the infinite chances `out there` it has to be happening.Why?? this planet will not exist forever and to think there is only one "live" planet is truly naive.

Anyway, this picture is from, comparatively speaking, a long time ago.(light years lol and thanks to Hubble).So open your mind to the forces in play if you will as from our observation the universe constantly changes.

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Earth to get a close shave with an asteroid tonight


http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1822
 
Earth to get a close shave with an asteroid tonight
sheesh -lol - under the table kids. .

tell you what spooly ...
if the bludy thing smashes through my window and breaks my Sidney Nolan, I'll be sorting it out with JC first thing I do up there. Then again, Sidney Nolan might be around to paint me a new one I guess. And Ned Kelly for a model for that matter.
 

That's where my painting went ya mongrel! I thought you had something tucked under your glider. BTW, your collage on the other thread was a corker, lol. Is that type of wizzbangery done with photoshop?
 
2020',
going offtopic for a moment, but see if you can dig up starstuff (20071118starstuff.mp3)... Think you might enjoy the opening story... Otherwise PM me if you can't find it...
Scuba
 
Scuba..
I went to starstuff - http://www.starstuff.com/ ? but not the article you mentioned .
any tips appreciated. Meanwhile , feel free to post a copy / link


Skint..
MGI Photosuite - got it with my first digital Sony camera


Spooly...
damned site better odds of a collision than winning lotto thats for sure
 
Great thread 20/20,

One thing I remember reading as a kid is the old black hole chestnut, what I never really understood was this;

If there are two spaceships, A and B, and spaceship A observes B disappearing into a black hole, apparently to the observers on spaceship A it will appear that spaceship B actually does enter the black hole and disappear.

However, to the unfortunate crew on spaceship B, time will be so distorted that they will be sitting around drumming their fingers waiting to enter the blackhole, but will never actually do so

So I guess it is all relevant to the observer, but are the crew aboard spaceship B actually still alive even though their companions aboard spaceship A saw them "disappear"? Or can the B crew members co-exist on two different "time planes"?

Bloody 'ell, think I need a drink after thinking about that! :alcohol:

jman
 
Scuba..
I went to starstuff - http://www.starstuff.com/ ? but not the article you mentioned .
any tips appreciated. Meanwhile , feel free to post a copy / link
ahh sorry - ABC radio - will get back

meanwhile here's bloke A heading for a black hole B


"black holes are mean cosmic cannibals
eating up prodigal suns
light rays refuse to escape from their surface,
much like my burnt raisin buns -
Einstein explained it quite simply -
teaspoonfuls weigh in the tons -
denser than rockcakes! can you imagine it !
crushed by a handful of crumbs"'

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=88164
 

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thanks scuba

Next to try to resolve jman's puzzle.


https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=165168&highlight=relativity#post165168

there have to be a stack of other great websites out there. - something for the weekend maybe.

For instance .... :-
http://casswww.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/GR.html
 
jman
None of these answer your question, lol -
the fact that they start talking about infinity has gotta be a worry yes?

maybe does this cartoon help? (Far Side)

fwiw, These two youtubes seem to follow on nicely from one to the other (just general stuff) ..

Black Holes

Universe: Black Holes: Creation & Consumption of Galaxies
 

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This thread reminds me of chartists - they all have the same data but interpret it differently and come out with different results.

Go to www.cosmologystatement.org

As for Dawkins, he is a fundamentalist, the Taliban of athiests. Michael Ruse a noted athiestic apologist stated that Dawkins' last book, the God Delusion makes you embarassed to be an athiest.

Unfortunately dawkins pushes his beliefs and never lets the truth get in the way of a good story.
 
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