Best sentence in English for 2008 on ASF

[rederob]

2020
Stay on thread/topic or just don't post.
If you can't understand what you read, then don't regurgitate it with some twisted logic.
The Red Cross Blood Bank is funded by government. I repeat for unthinking people like you that would rather argue on ignorance that the Red Cross itself is not a quango.
Furthermore, if you were capable of comprehension you would have read that the Tunnel is a BOOT. The article in question discussed the extent that the Tunnel could be regarded as public asset. It does not say the Tunnel is a quango.

 

[2020hindsight]

2020
Stay on thread/topic or just don't post.
If you can't understand what you read, then don't regurgitate it with some twisted logic.
The Red Cross Blood Bank is funded by government. I repeat for unthinking people like you that would rather argue on ignorance that the Red Cross itself is not a quango.
Furthermore, if you were capable of comprehension you would have read that the Tunnel is a BOOT. The article in question discussed the extent that the Tunnel could be regarded as public asset. It does not say the Tunnel is a quango.

rob
I'm starting to think you're a bit dense m8 - as well as nasty - black is white etc ...
read the words - the words ..

Sydney Tunnel ... In effect, this ensures that bad business decisions will result, not in bankruptcy and ruin, but in a public bailout. The term 'quango', in its original sense, has never been more appropriate.
cheers 2020

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Thank God some petty left wing, quango inhabiting, humourless jobsworth wasn't there to prosecute him.




gg[/QUOTE]

Hello

Garpal
You have started an interesting thread and have caused some debate which is good.

I am not going to comment as to the quality of the sentence in question. But would like to know if you would of liked the sentence as much if it had referred to a right wing QUANGO.

As QUANGO is an acronym for quasi-autonomous national governmental organisation I have used capitals, as I believe this is the correct form for acronyms.
They became particular prominent in the UK during the Thatcher years jobs for the boys that sort of thing, so imagine a left wing one historically speaking might be a rare thing.

On a lighter note Sir Humphrey Appleby in the TV series Yes Minister once remarked it takes two to quango minister.
Quando Quango were a UK punk rock band... not too bad.

Thanks Speewha,

The sentence actually doesn't refer to a left wing quango, but to a petty left wing humourless jobsworth.

If it had referred to a petty right wing humourless jobsworth I would have thought it excellent English but would have been incredulous at wayneL using an oxymoron.

ps

btw 2020 if you are reading this, before you fly off with a reply, an oxymoron is not a moron with a disabled parking sticker.

gg

 

[rederob]

As I said 2020, stay on topic or off the thread.
You are as dumb as they come if you cannot get the gist of the links you posted.
A quango has 3 distinct features:
First it is funded through the public purse.
Second, it is not an arm of government.
And finally, it cannot act autonomously.
As the Tunnel satisfies only one of these conditions ipso facto it is not a quango.

I suggest in future if you intend to quote something, you do it in context.

Sydney Tunnel ... In effect, this ensures that bad business decisions will result, not in bankruptcy and ruin, but in a public bailout. The term 'quango', in its original sense, has never been more appropriate.

God blessed the average person with a brain that allowed them to see quite easily that your quoted remarks relate to "government business enterprises like water authorities...".

Now trundle off and find a good example for GG's thread, or don't bother returning.

 

[Speewha]

Hello

Garpal,

I have to concede the sentence structure dose actual read differently to my interpretation. However in the context of the whole sentence it would be a little unlikely in the normal course of events that a petty left wing humourless jobsworth would inhabit anything other than a left wing QUANGO.

I agree that this is an assumption on my part but one which I hope you will agree is reasonable considering the whole context of the thread that the sentence in question was posted to.

What I was trying to find out is, is it the what, and not so much the how of what was written that attracted you to it ? I am interested in this not from any political sense but have a semi professional interest in the written word.

Some research I have been doing is showing that people generally have little regard to how well something is written , but rate it more on if they like the message or not. Hard to believe I know but in the text message world maybe not surprising

Regards

 

[2020hindsight]

Thank God some petty left wing, quango inhabiting, humourless jobsworth wasn't there to prosecute him.

Thanks Speewha,

1. The sentence actually doesn't refer to a left wing quango, but to a petty left wing humourless jobsworth.

2. If it had referred to a petty right wing humourless jobsworth I would have thought it excellent English but would have been incredulous at wayneL using an oxymoron.

3. btw 2020 if you are reading this, before you fly off with a reply, an oxymoron is not a moron with a disabled parking sticker., gg

a confusing post there gg

1. this sentence to end all sentences now has to be modified i.e. delete the refernce to quango...

2. in saying that it’s an oxymoron, I hear you, sorta -

oxymoron = seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”

you are saying that its an oxymoron to refer to a

a. petty
b. right wing
c. humourless
d. jobsworth. (?)

I assume you are referring to the contraction “right wing” and “jobs-worth”. Long time since the boss earned his pay btw

btw also – “jobsworth” doesn’t even show up in dictionary.com. Nor incidentally in either Macquarie or Webster dictionaries. Perhaps you could explain the meaning if it differs from what I’ve assumed in the paragraph above.

3. the classic oxymoron is of course “military intelligence” – but we shouldn’t get onto McCain yet again

and btw gg,

a. thanks for taking my post in the spirit it was intended – i.e. a sparring match,
and
b. if you think I’m analysing your perfect sentence in some detail, you’re right - I believe it’s called the Socratic method – and I reckon your sentence is not as good as other sentences around here :1onecent
c. oxymoron, lol.

 

[2020hindsight]

Heck, if we want to talk about the English language as she is spoke in Aus

and the words and grammar etc associated therewith , ...

It took a left wing Prime Minister (Gough) to trigger the publication of the Macquarie Dictionary - until then we didn't even have an Aussie dictionary - sheesh.

 

[wayneL]

It took a left wing Prime Minister (Gough) to trigger the publication of the Macquarie Dictionary -

... and also irrevocably and permanently damaged the fabric of Australian culture and politics, from which she will never recover.

The worst PM in history.

God bless John Kerr.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

... and also irrevocably and permanently damaged the fabric of Australian culture and politics, from which she will never recover.

The worst PM in history.

God bless John Kerr.

You've got it in one Wayne, it will recover though once this god botherer gets turfed out.

Anybody spot any other sentences on ASF worthy of mention in the hall of fame?

gg

 

[2020hindsight]

Here's mine ;_
Lord Byron... from
INSCRIPTION ON THE MONUMENT OF A NEWFOUNDLAND DOG

But the poor dog, in life the firmest friend,
The first to welcome, foremost to defend,
Whose honest heart is still his master's own,
Who labors, fights, lives, breathes for him alone,
Unhonored falls, unnoticed all his worth,
Denied in heaven the soul he held on earth:

While man, vain insect! hopes to be forgiven,
And claims himself a sole exclusive heaven.
Oh man! thou feeble tenant of an hour,
Debased by slavery, or corrupt by power,
Who knows thee well must quit thee with disgust,
Degraded mass of animated dust!

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98641&highlight=newfoundland#post98641

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=193555&highlight=newfoundland#post193555

P.S. In the will which the poet executed in 1811, he desired to be buried in the vault with his dog, and Joe Murray his butler was to have the honour of making one of the party. When the poet was on his travels, a gentleman, to whom Murray showed the tomb, said, "Well, old boy, you will take your place here some twenty years hence." "I don't know that, sir," replied Joe; "if I was sure his lordship would come here I should like it well enough, but I should not like to lie alone with the dog".

 

[2020hindsight]

As the Tunnel satisfies only one of these conditions ipso facto it is not a quango.

I disagree and so does the State Govt (in all probability) if you read that post - especially as they make trafffic arrangements to suit - publicly posted or otherwise?
Let's just agree to disagree.
What's your favourite line/ sentence whatever.

 

[rederob]

I disagree and so does the State Govt (in all probability) if you read that post - especially as they make trafffic arrangements to suit - publicly posted or otherwise?
Let's just agree to disagree.
What's your favourite line/ sentence whatever.

You are quite the moron aren't you.
Apart from straying from the thread's intent with quotes from Lord Byron, you now draw your own conclusions from left field.
The Tunnel is a public asset in corporate hands for an agreed term. Your poor comprehension should not be an excuse to disagree with anything. If you don't want to understand what makes a body a quango, don't make presumptive statements about them.
You are truly the serial pest of ASF and I can fully understand why so many here have you on "ignore".

 

[noirua]

In their honeymoon period, most pollies are humourous etc.
Then again, having to sack his 2IC one month into the job might be a bit more of a challenge to portray as humourous.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/05/2295255.htm?section=justin

...and this deputy who has just resigned is a scallywag indeed and more it seems. xpriest with a question mark and more - where do they get them?

 

[wayneL]

...and this deputy who has just resigned is a scallywag indeed and more it seems. xpriest with a question mark and more - where do they get them?

Boris still has good English; and still remains humourous. Politics is interesting again.

One more boring, autocratic, quango creating, left wing misanthrope to be dispensed with at the polls and the future will then indeed look brighter for this country.

 

[Sean K]

misanthrope

Another word I have to look up.

Damn you Wayne!!!

 

[2020hindsight]

1. You are quite the moron aren't you.
1. Apart from straying from the thread's intent
2. with quotes from Lord Byron,
3. you now draw your own conclusions from left field.
4. The Tunnel is a public asset in corporate hands for an agreed term. Your poor comprehension should not be an excuse to disagree with anything. If you don't want to understand what makes a body a quango, don't make presumptive statements about them.
5. You are truly the serial pest of ASF and I can fully understand why so many here have you on "ignore".

rob you are really determined here aren't you. Personally I preferred the discussion with Garpal, who after all is the one I directed my first enquiry to, (except that you pipe up with a heap of acid), that the sentence under discussion was made less ambiguous by deletion of all reference to quangos. = hangovers (apparently), from Thatcherism days.

I guess in summary I could say that I consider that sentence pretty nonsensical – as well as a provocation (hey rederob, how well do you know gg?, lol)- and I have invited both you and gg to give me an example of a quango that fits the meaning. No luck on that score as yet.

You do realise I take it that this grew from a discussion of racially non-PC jokes on another thread? Personally, I imagine I am as one with that famous leftie Malcolm Fraser on the question of racial jokes under these circumstances.

1. What is the intent of this thread? The thread is a bit a “fun” by Garpal to post/highlight a blatantly tainted sentence – might as well call the thread “in quasi defence of non PC jokes – including racial jokes during leadups to the November US election”

Hey if the plan is to post tainted provocative political sentences (or racist jokes for that matter) – and then not permit people to discuss the ethics of so doing, or the merits thereof, then so be it. I suspect however that would be counter to ASF policy.
:topic So far I have been astounded at the fair and accurate contributions on ASF on a real variety of topics on different threads – where time (imo) has proved those posts right. Won’t bother mentioning the threads by name.

2. and 3. I guess I really enjoy those words of Byron – certainly I prefer them to that sentence. Of course I could counter with equally political ambiguous nonsensical sentences from “left field”, but I won’t bother (and I’m guessing only a very few others will go there). Incidentally, I probably vote Liberal twice as often as I vote Labor.

4. ok – quangos. Forget tunnels (forget that article) - You say that the "water authorities" are an ideal example of a quango. ok.

hey rob - wooooh there lol.
so are YOU ready to give an example of how that sentence makes sense (using an example of a quango)?

still waiting. - and for that matter why they are linked to left-wing? and/or what they have to do with the meaning of that sentence?

“there I was telling this joke and suddenly I was prosecuted by the Water Authority (or some other quango)”

Whilst you’re at it, maybe tell us what a “jobsworth” is.

5. ok – your opinion. you’re entitled to it. Having said that, going by the 40,000 plus hits on the poetry thread , I’d say that others enjoy a break from trading –or for some other masochistic reason, don’t have me on the ignore thread.

One thing I would appreciate is if YOU put me on YOUR ignore thread, rather than reduce questions I put to others (who answer civilly) to the level of your vitriol.

:topic: I personally force myself to concentrate on non-trading threads – to yield not to the temptatin of constantly changing my trading “bets” – and attract wasteful brokerage.

 

[2020hindsight]

You do realise I take it that this grew from a discussion of racially non-PC jokes on another thread?

In fairness to you, I'm guessing you weren't aware of that ...
because I have always found your posts in other threads to be pretty fair on such matters.

 

[2020hindsight]

His commas are well placed and he delivers his message with the minimum of fuss.

Ain't English a beaut language.

Thank God some petty left wing, quango inhabiting, humourless jobsworth wasn't there to prosecute him.

Any more examples?

gg,
yep - Ain't English a beaut language - plenty of opportunities to laugh as well.

Here's another version...

"So Bob Hawke answered “any boss who fires someone today is a bum”. Thank God some petty right wing, humourless wordsworth wasn't there to prosecute him." **

PS But then again neither left nor right wing would have done so let’s face it. in either case. Having said that, I concede (think I'm right here) that the Anti-Discrimination Act was brought in by Labor in NSW in 1977 under Wran.

PS ** could hypothetically add a heap more derogatory adjectives, lazy, overpaid, parasitic fatcat etc, but can't be bothered. I'm off for a run.

 

[rederob]

2020
You began with a Homer Simpson quote, later said you never had heard of a quango, then declared the RSL and was a quango, decided the thread was "arguably provocative", slipped in an off-topic quote about Boris, then incorrectly added the the Red Cross and Tunnel to your misguided list of quangos before inserting yet another of your off-topic You Tube videos, and then got lost in links that purportedly supported your position... and so your calamity continued.
Rather than enjoy Wayne's words for their worth and then find an ASF quote that titillated your seemingly insubstantial intellect you indulged in a specious quest for an explanation of meaning.

On topic - not the best sentence, but a favourite from one of the ASF's premier rampers:

I averaged down and sold out with no profit/loss.

 

[2020hindsight]

you said you never had heard of a quango,

Hey I concede I'm learning every day of my life. Heck Wayne didn't know what a quango was till he came to Aus.

:topic Here's one for you then.
Is the Opera House Trust a quango in your opinion?

PS I think the quango you all were alluding to all along was the Anti Discrimation Board. - Seems I have to be the first to answer my own question - due perhaps to some unsureness on your collective parts.