Beijing Olympic Games 2008

[2020hindsight]

Re: Olympic Games

wys
Libby Lenton/Trickett reminds me of Alisa Camplin a bit ...
These stamps from 2002 Winter Olympics..

No need to explain why Steven Bradbury is smiling btw lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_at_the_Winter_Olympics

http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2...ss-beijing-2008/2008/03/21/1205602631481.html

Libby Lenton won't go to GamesMarch 21, 2008 - 12:04PM

There will however be a swimmer on the team and racing in China in the Australian swim suit who looks suspiciously like Lenton, only competing under the name Libby Trickett.

..... Lenton has made the decision to use her married name in competition from this event on, and was even ceremonially presented with an Australian swimming cap bearing the name Trickett.

"It will be very different. I've never even heard my name announced as Lisbeth Trickett yet, so it will be exciting for me," she said today.

 

[wayneL]

Re: Olympic Games

Well give a cheer for the poor old medal starved Brits:

1st gold medal in the pool for 48 years.

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Olympic Games

Well give a cheer for the poor old medal starved Brits:

1st gold medal in the pool for 48 years.

what about those cheeks of hers - either she's real excited, or she spilled the rouge jar
PS good on her

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Olympic Games

The eights are on !!! - repechage !! cmon tomkins et al

(ok doh - probably a rerun because they were interviewed immediately after and they weren't puffing lol -
still we're in - the finals on Sunday !!

rep·e·chage n. A trial heat, especially in rowing, allowing competitors who have already lost a heat another chance to qualify for the semifinals. A second chance

a second chance !!
If only life had one of them lol

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Olympic Games

As someone just said ...
If Phelps was a country he'd currently be coming 6th - but that is sure to improve

puts things into perspective I guess.

PS told you you'd be missed Thorpey lol.

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Olympic Games

gold medal winners to be on a set of stamps

....

 

[Julia]

Re: Olympic Games

Cost of staging the Olympic Games to China is currently estimated at about $US65 billion.

Can't help thinking of all the other ways this huge amount of money could have been spent rather than a sports fest of such transitory nature.

 

[trading_rookie]

Bolt's parents are Dutch as in from the Netherlands, not Dutch as in Afrikaans. Even if he was a 'sour' African I doubt he'd have any interest in how they're doing in the Olympics since he'd made it clear during a Socceroo's v Hellas game that any Australian-Greeks supporting Hellas were traitors...don't think he'd want to come across as being hypocritical.

In any event, Bolt is an idiot.

 

[Duckman#72]

Re: Olympic Games

well Andrew baby - watch and learn what real heroes can do - and ps - please don't try to take any of their credit away from them, you miserable duplicitous worm.

2020, did you actually read his Herald Sun article?

A lot of his comments make sense. Of course, the extrapolation of sportspersons per head of population wore thin, but other comments he makes are quite sensible. For example - has our obession with sport been completely healthy for our country? Do we admire Aboriginal success on the sporting field so quickly because it hides all the social failures off the field?

Nowhere in that article did Bolt try and play down the achievements of Australian Athletes. The whole point of his argument was that.... the rest of the world are less impressed with Australia's sporting results than we would like to think. And he is possibly right.

Now please don't send me messages saying I too am an Un-Australian, miserable duplicitious worm. I enjoy sport and love watching the Olympics, but I am realistic enought to know that our gold medals impress us more than it does other countries.

I know that Bolt is one of the few journos that has the temerity to challenge Emperor Rudd, but at least keep an open mind to his comments.

Duckman

 

[Wysiwyg]

Do we admire Aboriginal success on the sporting field so quickly because it hides all the social failures off the field?

My first thought is not hide, but show others that it is possible to develop their natural abilities and succeed in sport.Wasted talent is awful.

Thought invoking question but tying sport to social failures is divisive by intent.

 

[banjosmyth]

Re: Olympic Games

Hi Jersey

I'll have a passing look at the Olympics but I don't want to peak too soon.

The biggest sporting event in the world will be here before we know it. It still looks like Geelong will be too strong but Hawks and Bulldogs will make their presence felt.

Duckman

Sorry mate

But have you not heard of the man called 'Buddy Love'

Come finals time The hawks will shine!

Go Buddy!

 

[2020hindsight]

2020, did you actually read his Herald Sun article?

A lot of his comments make sense. Of course, the extrapolation of sportspersons per head of population wore thin, but other comments he makes are quite sensible. For example - has our obession with sport been completely healthy for our country? Do we admire Aboriginal success on the sporting field so quickly because it hides all the social failures off the field?
..........

Now please don't send me messages saying I too am an Un-Australian, miserable duplicitious worm.
........
I know that Bolt is one of the few journos that has the temerity to challenge Emperor Rudd, but at least keep an open mind to his comments.

Duck,

"Now please don't send me messages saying I too am an Un-Australian"
hell no.
Question I have to ask myself is can I be bothered talking about Bolt lol - especially get out of bed on a cold morning to make this post. Whatever, here goes....

background to my post was that I read some of his article on this – spending on sport - (I rarely get to the end of any of his articles btw) and then heard him on a Sydney ABC talkback putting forward the same ideas (I was driving at the time).

So here we are on the eve of the Olympics, and Bolt is pouring cold water on the importance of sport, and in effect on the achievements of kids who have been training for 4 years, and about to face their final moment of truth. Sure he spins it up with a sudden concern for aborigines etc. Not bad for someone who fought the Sorry statement - probably fighting against the next logical extension, namely Twiggy's proposal to get them some real employment sheesh etc. - but I digress.

To be honest I was amazed at how many rang in – about 50-50 for and against. A few pointed out that sport and Australia are synonymous, that kids who get up at 4am every day don’t deserve this criticism from couch potatoes who can't play tiddlewinks very well, that it leads to a healthy lifestyle, cuts down medical expenses in later life, a fraction of the money (or rather better value) that was wasted in Johnny Howard’s $121 million during pre-election WorkChoices propaganda including 98,000 mousepads, etc

The bit that really got me was when he said “of course you can pro-rata Australia’s population (for this exercise)!". That particular tone in his voice (if you've seen him speak, you'll know it).

Now , I don’t know if you watch Barrie Cassidy’s "Insiders" (it’s my Sunday religion – except when city2surf is on), but just the previous weekend he had been on the show, and lol – with the same look of outraged innocence had claimed “of course you can’t pro-rata Australia’s carbon footprint". Fortunately Malcolm Farr "pointed out the weakness in his argument to him" - i.e. gave him measure for measure so that his normal yelling over others didn't work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Farr
Malcolm ..served as President of the Federal Parliamentary Press Gallery until 2005

As you say (mildly expressed) “his comments on pro-rata wore thin” - implying we should limit ourselves to the same trivial expenditure that an Indian or Chinese or African might spend or whatever. (The same Indian etc who he happily preaches should be entitled to as little as 1/25th the carbon emissions we make per head).

As I was driving along, I was absolutely splitting my sides.

I guess we could talk about his opinion on the Stolen Generation (denial) , on GW (denial), on the original Iraq War (strongly in favour), on the ABC (accuses them of left wing bias – along with SMH, THE Age, etc) yet lol – the ABC invite him to spoil their Insiders show every now and again with his rude interjections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bolt

Bolt frequently accuses the ABC, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and some other newspapers of strong left-wing bias.[2]

:topic Off topic , but here’s an example of his run-ins with the courts due to his “journalistic style”.. ..

PS "Duplicitous" may not have been the righ word
try "misleading" and "disingenuous" maybe.

In 2002, Magistrate Jelena Popovic was awarded $246,000 damages for defamation after suing Bolt and the publishers of the Herald Sun over a 13 December 2000 column in which he claimed she had "hugged two drug traffickers she let walk free". Popovic contended she had in fact shaken their hands to congratulate them on having completed a rehabilitation program.

The jury found that the article was not true, that it was not a faithful and accurate record of judicial proceedings and that it was not fair comment on a matter of public interest. It found that the column had, however, been reasonable and not malicious.[6] Bolt emerged from the Supreme Court after the jury verdict, insisting his column had been accurate and that the mixed verdict was a victory for free speech.

His statement outside the court was harshly criticised by Supreme Court judge Bernard Bongiorno, who later overturned the jury’s decision, ruling that Bolt had not acted reasonably because he did not seek a response from Ms Popovic before writing the article and, in evidence given during the trial, showed he did not care whether or not the article was defamatory. Justice Bongiorno included $25,000 punitive damages in his award against Bolt and the newspaper for both the "misleading" and "disingenuous" comments he had made outside court and the newspaper’s reporting of the jury’s decision. The Court of Appeal later reversed the $25,000 punitive damages, though it upheld the defamation finding, describing Bolt’s conduct as "at worst, dishonest and misleading and at best, grossly careless."

 

[2020hindsight]

another stamp coming up
what a ripper.

 

[Duckman#72]

Duck,


The bit that really got me was when he said “of course you can pro-rata Australia’s population (for this exercise)!". That particular tone in his voice (if you've seen him speak, you'll know it).

As you say (mildly expressed) “his comments on pro-rata wore thin” - implying we should limit ourselves to the same trivial expenditure that an Indian or Chinese or African might spend or whatever. (The same Indian etc who he happily preaches should be entitled to as little as 1/25th the carbon emissions we make per head).

Hi 2020

Can we expect the same attack from you on Aussie Sports Minister Kate Ellis for her comments on funding for Australian sport?

It wasn't far off Bolt's comments. But I suppose if it comes from Labour. To put it in sporting parlance - you can handle a left jab but not the right hook.

She said that was unlikely to be substantial increases to the funding of sport and added......We also need to be mindful of the size of our economy, the size of our population versus the competing nations we are up against".

This from our Sports Minister!!! What about the timing 2020? She had hardly stepped off the plan from Bejing!! All those Aussie athletes she has now offended. Talk about pouring cold water over the importance of sport!!

What is clearly evident form the British is that funding and concerted sporting programs gets you medals.

Another thing and it may have already been discussed. What is the go with the dias this year? Silver and Bronze are on the same level. Is this the new politically corect way of doing things? Have the last few Olympics been like that? Even the flags have only two levels. Gold and the rest.


Duckman

 

[Julia]

All you sports fans are completely entitled to your views, and I'm glad you're enjoying the current spectacle, but it's unreasonable not to accept that there is a substantial portion of the population who would prefer to see some of the huge spending on sport go to e.g. education, health, infrastructure.

 

[Duckman#72]

All you sports fans are completely entitled to your views, and I'm glad you're enjoying the current spectacle, but it's unreasonable not to accept that there is a substantial portion of the population who would prefer to see some of the huge spending on sport go to e.g. education, health, infrastructure.

Hi Julia

I agree entirely. There needs to be a happy medium. At what cost are we placing on medals? I love sport and I like us to continue succeeding on the world stage but we need to be careful that we don't end up chasing success to the detriment of other more important aspects(arguable I know) of our society.

Duckman

 

[2020hindsight]

Can we expect the same attack from you on Aussie Sports Minister Kate Ellis for her comments on funding for Australian sport?

It wasn't far off Bolt's comments. But I suppose if it comes from Labour. To put it in sporting parlance - you can handle a left jab but not the right hook.

She said that was unlikely to be substantial increases to the funding of sport and added......We also need to be mindful of the size of our economy, the size of our population versus the competing nations we are up against".

This from our Sports Minister!!! What about the timing 2020? She had hardly stepped off the plan from Bejing!!

duck
Hey if she said the same things that he did with the same timing, (see below) , then she can bag it as well lol. (for mine).

I haven't heard her comments (and you haven't posted them) - and right now (for a week or two) I'm working with dial-up connection. I'm guessing , since John Coates proposed extra expenditure, then she was responding to media eager to get her response. In these uncertain financial, racial, and climatic times, it is obviously unlikely it will be increased. (sure, no argument).

And I'm guessing she had returned from Beijing, i.e. after the euphoria had caught hold (as against immediately before it started, when the athletes were in an excited state of expectation).

PS Am I pro-left or pro-right? I vote either. Certainly I prefer the way the Aborigines are treated under Labor, as well as the climate, and the investment in scientists and education generally for Australia's future; and who knows, maybe if you or any of us travel, we'll find Aussie has a much improved image abroard as well.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Sport is the great leveler in my experience.
If you think ya **** don`t stink, well you soon find out that it does.

 

[Duckman#72]

duck
Hey if she said the same things that he did with the same timing, (see below) , then she can bag it as well lol. (for mine).

I haven't heard her comments (and you haven't posted them) - and right now (for a week or two) I'm working with dial-up connection. I'm guessing , since John Coates proposed extra expenditure, then she was responding to media eager to get her response. In these uncertain financial, racial, and climatic times, it is obviously unlikely it will be increased. (sure, no argument).

Excellent 2020!! I'll look forward to reading your bagging!!!

As for the quote...sorry, in post #34 I left out the " in front of the... (We also blah etc)

2020 have you got any idea on the podium levels. Are Silver and Bronze just treated the same now?

Duckman

 

[2020hindsight]

..have you got any idea on the podium levels. Are Silver and Bronze just treated the same now?

No but it's an excellent point
not sure if political correctness is involved. Maybe just that the shorter people who had won gold could step up two steps, but not 3

Heck, took me a couple of days to get used to them finishing the swimming at the wrong end of the pool (i.e. instead of the right hand end).

Just to be different praps?
Same reason we drive on the left, and the yanks on the right?

They say they're considering having the swimming in Ireland in 2024, and they'll probably swim across the pool - again, just to be different

PS no need to have all those heats - I mean you could have 30 lanes - just that the 1500m is 75 "lengths / widths whatever" of the pool.

PS back to the podium and the same level for second and third flags - as someone once said, if it's between a stuff-up and a conspiracy, the best option is to go with the stuff-up.