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Re: AHZ - Allied Healthcare Group

Case of supply an demand ...seller virtually dry up ... 8 to 1 buyer to seller
Lot of people on register must be long term holder so there isn't many shares available to trade.....

You want in you have to pay hefty premium...
 
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Didn't it list at $0.20 in March 2004? Bobbled above there for a bit too. Don't think there is any stock splits not included in the chart.

This is a Andrew Forrest back door listing of another biotech stock BioMD can't remember the name exactly ...
I bought in around the time they do the back door listing because of my interest in Coridon

I read a paper on it a few years back and I have it stuck on my desk and keep an eye on it and said if this thing ever listed I will buy in.... Found out Andrew Forest AHZ owned a chunk of this business and So I buy AHZ ...soon it has 60% control of Coridon .... Cardiocel stuff is a nice surprise and tracking really well and it could be the cash cow AHZ need to full filled its HVP vaccine .... The vaccine stuff will come out of the left field and would blow everyone away some day ...

Remind me a story of Texas instrument when its main money is semiconductor ...
It throw a bit of money into DSP research didn't expect much in return...bugger all money something like less than a few percent of their earning...

This DSP then came out of the left field became its leading earning power and they became the world largest DSP producer DSP still making them money today ...

No one pay attention to AHZ vaccine, it a long way to go etc and give them small chance of success -:) let the vaccine be TI DSP -:)
 
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You have to remember how tightly held this company is, its not easy to flush sellers out, most are in it for the long haul and not very interested in profit taking along the way.

I am now up over 100% on my parcels overall and would not consider selling at 0.15c

EDIT - missed ROE's post essentially saying the same thing above.
 
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In hindsight (it's a wonderful thing isn't it?) I should of probably resisted the temptation to sell the parcel I had earlier. It was always my intention to hold this stock for the long term, but I took a gamble thinking it would drop down a little like it did a few times earlier and I could pick some more stock on the way down. But these are the lessons you learn and if your profiting along the way, it can't be all bad! :xyxthumbs

I still managed to pick up some extra stock and largely thanks to the share offer parcel, my average price is a fair way off so I'm still sitting nicely in the green. But I think it's time to strap on the seat belt and see if I can pick up any scraps along the way. :)
 
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In hindsight (it's a wonderful thing isn't it?) I should of probably resisted the temptation to sell the parcel I had earlier. It was always my intention to hold this stock for the long term, but I took a gamble thinking it would drop down a little like it did a few times earlier and I could pick some more stock on the way down. But these are the lessons you learn and if your profiting along the way, it can't be all bad! :xyxthumbs

I still managed to pick up some extra stock and largely thanks to the share offer parcel, my average price is a fair way off so I'm still sitting nicely in the green. But I think it's time to strap on the seat belt and see if I can pick up any scraps along the way. :)

Gotta stick to your guns. Not a good idea to change your strategy based on short term price fluctuations if this is irrelevant to the reason you purchased the stock to begin with..... it can get messy purchasing a stock based on fundamentals then begin trying to trade in the short term based on some form of tech analysis or market sentiment.
 
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... but I took a gamble thinking it would drop down a little like it did a few times earlier and I could pick some more stock on the way down ...

Don't beat yourself up over it!

There are plenty of people will do that for you!

Cheers,
 
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Gotta stick to your guns. Not a good idea to change your strategy based on short term price fluctuations if this is irrelevant to the reason you purchased the stock to begin with..... it can get messy purchasing a stock based on fundamentals then begin trying to trade in the short term based on some form of tech analysis or market sentiment.

+1 Agree not blaming you for taking profit but you need to be consistent in your approach ...
you either invest for long term or if you want to trade....

don't trade out of your long term position maintain some sort of exposure to the upside ...
My approach to this is I buy another parcel and trade or buy double my position ...one to maintain
the exposure and 1 to trade in and out but never completely get out...

you not going to get them correct 100% but a consistent approach pays in the long run in trading or in long term investing and you less likely to make mistake...

... but I took a gamble thinking it would drop down a little like it did a few times earlier and I could pick some more stock on the way down ...
Lot of people on hotcopper selling out early this week thinking today it drop because people has 20% more shares
so don't think you are the only one ... market is unpredictable at its best :)

I try to help them with the logic about stock will drop today
http://www.hotcopper.com/post_threadview.asp?fid=307&tid=2090865&msgno=26872#26872
 
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In hindsight (it's a wonderful thing isn't it?) I should of probably resisted the temptation to sell the parcel I had earlier. It was always my intention to hold this stock for the long term, but I took a gamble thinking it would drop down a little like it did a few times earlier and I could pick some more stock on the way down. But these are the lessons you learn and if your profiting along the way, it can't be all bad! :xyxthumbs

I still managed to pick up some extra stock and largely thanks to the share offer parcel, my average price is a fair way off so I'm still sitting nicely in the green. But I think it's time to strap on the seat belt and see if I can pick up any scraps along the way. :)

I got out too. I'd been holding since 0.06 and always intended to get out around 0.12. I missed my out last week when it touched 0.12, and this week I doubled my cash after months of waiting. Stuck to my strategy. No regrets.
 
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This is a Andrew Forrest back door listing of another biotech stock BioMD can't remember the name exactly ...
Thanks ROE - didn't realise about the backdoor listing (which obviously isn't shown on any long-term charts). So I understand about your comment about the all-time highs now. Cheers. :)
 
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Please remain calm, stay in your seats and tighten your belts! 17c this morning and away.
 
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The rocket is just lifting off and the mass just about to spot the rocket fuel
With a nice Published article on AFR yesterday lift out ....
 
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Won biotech conference in Brisbane emerging company of the year last night
That will get a few people notice
 
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They just keep kicking goals don't they!

Are we watching the next major Aussie company taking off from its infancy? Whilst I am young and have never seen it happen from start to finish before - it certainly feels like it.
I'm eager to see sales out of Europe start so we can get a better idea of potential revenue growth going forward..
:dead: Happy Halloween
 
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I've learnt my lessons, I'm all stocked up and ready to ride whatever happens. :xyxthumbs Based on all the positive things I've been hearing over the weeks/months, I decided to double my initial long term position because while there might be a few bumps along the way, there is just too much upside to this company to want to miss out on. :)

As I understand the Quarterly report is due today? Will be interesting to see what effect that has on the price after the good news of winning the award last night. Already jumped 1c after holding steady yesterday. :xyxthumbs
 
Re: AHZ - Allied Healthcare Group

Case of supply an demand ...seller virtually dry up ... 8 to 1 buyer to seller
Lot of people on register must be long term holder so there isn't many shares available to trade.....

You want in you have to pay hefty premium...

Looks like the premium is becoming more affordable today :) hoping to lock in my profit and get back in around 0.11 within the next week. Buyer to seller ratio is nearing parity.
 
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Looks like the premium is becoming more affordable today :) hoping to lock in my profit and get back in around 0.11 within the next week. Buyer to seller ratio is nearing parity.

And what is your plan if the SP doesn't reach 0.11 and you don't get the chance to buy back in at that price? Do you raise this theoretical entry point, or do you forget about the company?

Or what if you buy back in at 0.11 and it goes down...0.10, 0.09, 0.07 etc? Where do you re-sell? and then where do you rebuy again?

Have you got a plan for both these scenarios? Beacause if your playing the pricing game you have to be prepared for this and MORE to occur.




Watching the exuberance of this companies SP is quite enjoyable. The posts on hotcopper are pretty hilarious - each week its either going to $1+ or heading down to single figures.

Best to turn off the market and check back monthly if you beleive in this one for the long term - the short term movements are too distracting.
 
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And what is your plan if the SP doesn't reach 0.11 and you don't get the chance to buy back in at that price? Do you raise this theoretical entry point, or do you forget about the company?

Or what if you buy back in at 0.11 and it goes down...0.10, 0.09, 0.07 etc? Where do you re-sell? and then where do you rebuy again?

Have you got a plan for both these scenarios? Beacause if your playing the pricing game you have to be prepared for this and MORE to occur.


Watching the exuberance of this companies SP is quite enjoyable. The posts on hotcopper are pretty hilarious - each week its either going to $1+ or heading down to single figures.

Best to turn off the market and check back monthly if you beleive in this one for the long term - the short term movements are too distracting.

Plan is to hold until it comes back otherwise I write it off as a loss. It's a part of my portfolio I can afford to lose, otherwise I wouldn't be playing with a high risk micro cap. For me re-sell will be 20% profit so, 0.132. Here is my stop/loss spreadsheet that I use http://ge.tt/9HmVW7x/v/0 - i'm sure others have far more advanced methods but most here are fairly coy for obvious reasons. This is the 6th time i've bought and sold AHZ, so far doing ok :)

Plan for the scenarios is accept complete loss and ride it in to the ground if it goes that way. The money i'm playing with is a small % of profit from other trades. I've never believed in AHZ in the long term like others around here. It's a company that is yet to make any real money, lots of promises for development, but so have all the other bio meds that have come and gone. I don't think this one is any different just because twiggy is backing it. The lastest release was great: our herpes vaccine didn't kill any healthy people. Whilst that is great, I would like to see much much more and don't have the faith that others do. I am happy to trade on the swings though.

This is not advice. Do you own research, I likely have no idea what i'm talking about.
 
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I am planning to hold tight with the roller coaster....one of these high stake stuff and you either get rich or lose a bit of money trying it's not pure fantasy this stock so the reward is there for the taking if things work out ....

I am well adapted with the Market volatility and price rise and fall is part off the mix :)
 
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Looks like the premium is becoming more affordable today :) hoping to lock in my profit and get back in around 0.11 within the next week. Buyer to seller ratio is nearing parity.

I mentioned in another thread that I had sold SDL partly because 12.5 cents looked like a good price for a while and I needed to unload some spekkies. I also sold AHZ the next day - it looked toppy and like SDL there was still too much hype.

It may or may not go back to 11 but today helped it on its way with a selling surge towards the end 8 times the selling to buying for the last 50 trades, nearly 4 times for the last 100 trades and nearly twice for the day.

In contrast to that, the buyer to seller has improved, but it is not all that relevant with the large quantities on each side and may change in the morning.

Cheers
Country Lad
 
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Plan is to hold until it comes back otherwise I write it off as a loss. It's a part of my portfolio I can afford to lose, otherwise I wouldn't be playing with a high risk micro cap. For me re-sell will be 20% profit so, 0.132. Here is my stop/loss spreadsheet that I use http://ge.tt/9HmVW7x/v/0 - i'm sure others have far more advanced methods but most here are fairly coy for obvious reasons. This is the 6th time i've bought and sold AHZ, so far doing ok :)

Plan for the scenarios is accept complete loss and ride it in to the ground if it goes that way. The money i'm playing with is a small % of profit from other trades. I've never believed in AHZ in the long term like others around here. It's a company that is yet to make any real money, lots of promises for development, but so have all the other bio meds that have come and gone. I don't think this one is any different just because twiggy is backing it. The lastest release was great: our herpes vaccine didn't kill any healthy people. Whilst that is great, I would like to see much much more and don't have the faith that others do. I am happy to trade on the swings though.

This is not advice. Do you own research, I likely have no idea what i'm talking about.

Your reply shows you have a good plan with regard to your strategy - I made the assumption you were fundamentally investing in the company. Swing trading it in this manner is fine..carry on!
 
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