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Averaging Down for the win?

There is no "hedge". The exchange has the worst tech of any large exchange in the world. When you get these really fast sweeps an order can take 5 - 10 seconds to get to market. By that time the damage was done. There was no volume to trade into as some smart ar$e hits it with a 1000 lot and instantly its 100 points lower.

Thanks for the explanation.
 
Though I have no idea how you would do that without a large backing..... ;)

This!! Yesty was a prime example, alot of the trades I took my entries were slightly off either too soon and got pushed out or too late and got the shake out and I had to close them cause I can't afford the extra risk let alone adding to that risk by doubling down and yet if I had've been able to the trades would've yielded the target of ~100 ticks.
One day I do hope to be able to do it though!
 
Here is a little live account I've been using to do a bit of a stress testing for the last 3 weeks. My other trading has been my main focus so haven't had that much time to spend on this. Usually after asia is finished I jump on it for a bit so I can test some stuff through some more extreme volatility than is typical of asia and find it a good way to blow off some steam. I'm usually just trying to get into a position rather than worry too much about decent entries.

On your real account you obviously wouldn't be wanting to experience these type of drawdowns. I fully expected this account to go bust and it definitely would if I kept doing it this way long term. the account has reached a point now that am not comfortable letting it go bust because I am poor, so will trade it more sensibly.

But you can see if position sizes were reduced and a daily stop implemented how it can create quite a nice equity curve.

Note that when the daily stop is implemented some of them down movements would stay down and not bounce straight back up so fast, but still...

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You seem like you obviously have some talent Hav, why not keep plugging away at this live account and take your stats to Propex in hopes of getting funded?

I just realized we now have Cav, Pav, and Hav...:eek:
 
Last update. Finished exactly 5 weeks on this averaging exercise today

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That spot around trade 210 was a lot dodgier than it looks on the equity curve and led me to think about things and make some changes

Now I add a lot less (more linear, less martingale!) and add less times before i call it quits
I have shifted my time frame out a little. Instead of going for moves on a 1-5 minute chart I'm using the 1 min chart to go for moves on the 5-15 minute charts, this has also spaced out a lot where I will add which reduces the risk, helps me let the good trades run a bit longer and allows me to look for an opportunity to average up as well as down

This exercise has improved my trading a lot, made me just concentrate on coming up with an idea and contingency plan and then just concentrate on buying and selling in the right places. Previously I was just coming up with a half hearted idea, the stop was the contingency plan so the trading ideas didn't need to be as well thought out

My trading has changed a lot from the start of the exercise to the end, in terms of my stats in the future I imagine my win percentage will come down a fair bit, winning trade amount will increase and my profit to risk should increase. I will not consider increasing my position size until my daily stop comes down to 2%

In case anyone is wondering, no I wouldn't have posted my equity curve if I had blown up instead!
 
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