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I can hear the sound of one hand clapping.

Depends how you see the Union Jack.

I think it shouldn't be on the flag, but I've served under the Australian flag and was proud to.

gg
 
Political correctness seems to creep in everywhere.

Making Australia Day holiday to be celebrated on the day, looks like first step to push it back and maybe to oblivion.

One of the possibilities would probably be to include in Australian flag, little flag of every country that ever any migrant settled here, that would be real acknowledgment of Multiculturalism.

How silly is that? But politically correct, aj?
 

Not as silly as having the a small flag of the former rulers in the Australian flag. The umbilical cord should have been cut a long time ago. Australia is a big baby now.
 
Another suggestion to come out of Canberra

 

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I'll be waving a flag tomorrow.

:aus:

But looking forward to an update.
 
Here is our most Australian reason for the conflict on this day.

We should really celebrate Australia day on 1 January of each year but this is already a public holiday. In order for it to be a separate holiday it needed to be on another day.

Therefore it is 26 January!

cheers
Surly
 
I don't agree with that one surly, thant means a punter on the tools only gets 2 public holidays instead of 3,,,, not fair. Lets ask the CEO of the Commonwealth Bank to give back 15 million $$$ of his yearly salary then we are talking business..:

As for the flag, I don't care. Whatever we call ours is ours and we fly it. No matter if it's the current one or anything new.
 
Our flag is too much like NZ's and its time we had our own, Canada had the right approach.

When we changed the national anthem from God save the Queen, there was an uproar to change it back

but in time, I do think it will happen : )
 

Or, we could end up with a Gay Aboriginal Muslim Flag.

Leave our flag alone.

Our flag bears the stars that blaze at night
In our southern sky of blue
And that little old flag in the corner
That's part of our heritage too,
It's for the English, the Scots and the Irish
Who were sent to the end of the earth
The rogues and the schemers and dreamers
Who gave our Australia its birth.
And you who are shouting to change it
You don't seem to understand
It's the flag of our laws and language
Not the flag of a far away land
There are plenty of people who'll tell you
How when Europe was plunged into night
The little old flag in the corner
Was their symbol of freedom and light.
It don't mean we owe our allegiance
To a forgotten imperial dream
We've the stars to show where we're going
And the old flag to show where we've been
It's only an old piece of bunting
It's only an old coloured rag
But there are thousands who died for its honor
And fell in defence of our flag.
 
Tink said:
Our flag is too much like NZ's and its time we had our own, Canada had the right approach.

When we changed the national anthem from God save the Queen, there was an uproar to change it back

but in time, I do think it will happen : )
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And what's wrong with it being similar to New Zealand's flag? One if the problems with putting maple leaves, fern leaves or kangaroos on a flag is that it makes them too complicated. The design of a flag should be simple enough for any school kid to draw.
 
Why is it that every person receiving an award (about which they'd have had advance warning, despite professing total surprise) feels obliged to say how 'humbled' they feel?

Why humbled?
 
Julia said:
Why is it that every person receiving an award (about which they'd have had advance warning, despite professing total surprise) feels obliged to say how 'humbled' they feel?

Why humbled?
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They are not humbled. They relish the publicity and the opportunity to nag us for a year about their pet projects.
 
Why humbled? Ever received an award? It makes you feel humble.

Normally the ego is kept busy trying to maintain a separate 'self' with thoughts of appearance, achievement and relationship. When you get one of these needs recognized or fulfilled, your ego lets go its grip for a few seconds, making you feel humble. In this way, the more humble the recipient feels, the more attached they are to their fragile ego. We all do it though, to some degree.
 
I'm in two minds about the flag. It's the only one I've known but I'm sure we need to cement our true identity. I'm just not sure what we need to replace it with to encompass all the heritage and backgrounds of all who can call this diverse land home.

I'm probably at bit worn out from beach cricket , had to many VBs and a bit sunburnt. .....
This was my day
 

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I don't know about that.

I think it's merely a platitude mouthed by most people.

I would only believe that a minority are truly humbled by recognition; and these would only be people who genuinely do not seek it.

tr.v. hum·bled, hum·bling, hum·bles
1. To curtail or destroy the pride of; humiliate.
2. To cause to be meek or modest in spirit.
3. To give a lower condition or station to; abase. See Synonyms at degrade.

IOW those truly embarrassed by the attention
 
If the flag ever gets changed, let's make it RED with a BIG GREEN BORDER, a hairy rednosed wombats in one corner, a tree hugger in another corner, a lung fish in the bottom corner. lots of wind power farms and solar power cells in the middle and a filled in coal mine last.
That will keep all the GREENS AND LEFT WING SOCIALIST happy. Bugger the rest.

For Christ sake leave the bloody flag as it is. We fought two major world wars under that flag. Aussies lost their lives fighting for it.

Wiil a new flag will it make us any happier? Will it make us richer or poorer? Will it give us all a better way of life? Will it stop the prospects of terrorist attacks? Will it stop droughts, floods and fire. I don't think so!!!!!!!!
 
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Why humbled? Ever received an award? It makes you feel humble.
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I've only received a few awards, nothing like "Australian of the Year", but these small recognitions have made me feel anything but humble. Rather a sense of pride that my efforts have been recognised, and if anything my ego is enhanced.

Normally the ego is kept busy trying to maintain a separate 'self' with thoughts of appearance, achievement and relationship.
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A psychologically healthy person will have their ego integrated, not separate.
And surely someone with a reasonable level of "OK-ness" isn't constantly preoccupied by appearance, achievement and relationship.
Perhaps it's an age thing, e.g. younger people are more concerned with image.

Sorry, GB. That doesn't make any sense to me.

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I don't know about that.

I think it's merely a platitude mouthed by most people.
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Yes, I agree and it's why I raised it. It has become the accepted thing to say, however meaningless.

I would only believe that a minority are truly humbled by recognition; and these would only be people who genuinely do not seek it.
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Yes, agree. Hence the inappropriateness of the bleating about being humbled.
 

Having come from Ireland 28 years ago and assuming citizenship a few years later, I never feel comfortable about telling "original" Aussies what should be their flag. But just to make a point about the Union Jack in the corner, the cross in the centre that represents Ireland, represents Ireland before they became independent from the UK. When they were an English dominion. So, if you want to represent Ireland in the Australian flag, not saying that one should do so, the Union Jack is definitely not the symbol for it.
 
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