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Anzac Day is certainly a more important day for me, and more embedded in the Australian psyche than Australia Day.

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Garpal Gumnut said:
Anzac Day is certainly a more important day for me, and more embedded in the Australian psyche than Australia Day.

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Hear hear. Nothing significant or special about a fleet of boats arriving at a land mass all those years ago. Although to me these days, public holidays have no sentimental, patriotic or celebratory value.

I feel patriotic remembering the sacrifices of our forefathers during the World Wars and patriotic when Lleyton or the Kangaroos or the athletes or the swimmers or any sportsman or sportswoman that steps up on the world stage or an inventor or an (honest) entrepreneur.

Maybe because these things are more honest and real.
 

Well said wizz, except for the tennis comment.

I believe professional tennis players are playing with small balls, and that's just the women, don't get me started on the men.

Lets keep showbizsportsciencesavinglivesangelsofmercyfrontpagedrama and other worthwhile achievements out of Anzac Day.

That's what Australia Day is for.

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Australia, as the multicultural society it is today, started when Cook strolled up the beach and claimed the land. Technically Cook was the first "boat person" to land on these shores and make demands on the resident population. Since then there have been plenty of other days that merit rememberance, Anzac day, Rememberance Day, and Federation day (when we stopped being independant states and formed a national federation). In my opinion, when Gough shook off the title "Commonwealth of Australia" for "Australia" on our currency is a day that also should be remembered. As should be the date we form a Republic.

In respect of the flag, it is our flag and we should fly it proudly whenever we want, not just on Australia Day.
 

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We should all be proud to be part of this wonderful nation or not be here. I value the new Aussie who in accented English tries to embrace our life-style and culture and says he is an "aussie".

And it doesn't matter we are not a republic and perhaps better we are not! I can't imagine what President Rudd could do to us if given the power.

You can all stop your bleating about the flag. The Union Jack gives us perspective as to our past whilst the wonderful Southern Cross shows we are a forward looking nation. I cannot imagine a flag that embraces the spirit of any country so well as ours.

Before any of you jump down my throat, I have a pretty good wog name and am first generation. Get rid of the flag, get rid of the Commonwealth, let minority groups get rid of our unique culture, we may as well be blanc mange.
 
I am very worried we will lose our Australian bent.



Overseas, people love 'us'.

Not Greeks, or Italians, or Labanese, or Indians.

Australians!!

Immigrants join us or be 'them'.

Even you Kiwis!!!

Yes, I'm a racisit.

If you want to be 'Australian', be Australian.

Now, define that...
 
Like your comments GG!
I am happy to celebrate by just being happy to live here, bbq, beer with friends and family. I dont begrudge anyone flying the flag, so long as they are respectful in doing so. Just simply let it fly for a few days around Australia day (dont care when that day is just so long as we have one).

I do get annoyed at people flying it for extended periods, letting it shred to ribbons. Seen one down the street from inlaws been flying all year and the only reason its still there is the fatlard is too lazy to remove it (its about 1/2 a flag and faded).

Hope you all have Happy Australia day.:aus:
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Anzac Day is certainly a more important day for me, and more embedded in the Australian psyche than Australia Day.

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Yes feel the same, but then have a very large respect for our military and its history.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The problem that most Australians have is that change is not inherent in their nature, or at least rapid change. They like things to evolve.

That is why the Republican Movement fell on their collective arses...
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I thought they failed because of the way the question was phrased? From memory (and I could very well be wrong) it was something like:

"would you like to be a republic with a president chosen by this particular method with these particular powers?"

rather than

"would you like to be a republic?"

with the question of how a president was elected, and what powers they would have being decided separately?

Also, I see the Opposition want us to participate in "affirmation ceremonies". WTF? Before they got booted out they tied school funding to the requirement for an Australian flag out the front of the school, introduced the anti-Muslim test (immi. test) and now they want this. Are they really that insecure about being Australian?
 

No Sid they failed because the Australian public didn't trust the model that was put forward. A model that would have consolidated power in and control by the present political class comrade.

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Garpal Gumnut said:
No Sid they failed because the Australian public didn't trust the model that was put forward. A model that would have consolidated power in and control by the present political class comrade.
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Sorry, isn't that what I said? If the questions was simply "Do you want a republic?" it probably would have passed.
 
Howard is a staunch monarchist, he wasnt going to let that pass
 
Sidamo said:
Sorry, isn't that what I said? If the questions was simply "Do you want a republic?" it probably would have passed.
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That question is a bit like saying " Do you want a r**t " to someone you have just met.

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This is exactly and precisely correct. Howard played it very, very cleverly - he knew that the republicans couldn't agree on the model (yet) so by taking this path he could be seen to give them their "chance" without any realistic prospect of success, and then shelve it for years. Like him or hate him, we can't deny that John Howard was a very clever politician.
 

You can't blame Johnny for everything.

Its like blaming Whitlam for all the welfare, broken homes and people called River with a double barreled second name and a drug habit.

Whitlam and Johnny are gone.

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This is complete and utter nonsense.

The union jack on our flag connotes nothing less than ownership, of our country by the UK. Which, constitutionally at least, is still the embarrassing reality. It is a relic of history that outlived its used by date generations ago. Perspective my ass. We can all learn about and understand the role of the UK in our history without having to see it every time we look at the flag.

By the way, I have nothing against the UK itself. Some of my ancestors came from there, it has been a great country through the ages and it obviously has an integral role in our history. But I very strongly believe it has no relevance to modern day Australia, and no longer deserves such a prominent place in our constitution or on our flag.

My personal opinion is that the current aboriginal flag would have been a brilliant national flag. It would be impossible to use it in reality given the cultural and political significance now attached to it, but as a symbol of our country that we can be proud of I think its great. If only someone would come up with a similarly awesome new design.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
You can't blame Johnny for everything.

Its like blaming Whitlam for all the welfare, broken homes and people called River with a double barreled second name and a drug habit.

Whitlam and Johnny are gone.

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Not blaming him for anything, except almost single-handedly derailing the republican movement in Australia, which he and his monarchist allies in his government clearly did, and did superbly.

And despite being a passionate republican, I don't hate him for it. I admire him for the way he did it. It was brilliant stuff.
 
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