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Australian Federal Election - 2019

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SirRumpole said:
Like it or not the electorate doesn't like rapid change and is becoming tired of class wars.
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Tomorrow is a normal unremarkable Monday for pretty much everyone except the few who are directly involved in politics.

People will get up, get dressed and go and do whatever they do on a Monday be that working as lawyer, driving a bus, tradies on building sites or self employed, trading shares or whatever.

Nobody's going to get up tomorrow morning, get dressed and then go and be an Aboriginal, lesbian or whatever. That someone happens to be Aboriginal or happens to be gay is incidental to most of what they'll do tomorrow but it's not the focus.

That's not to say that I or most people aren't sympathetic to the cause when it comes to past issues of discrimination against gays or injustices toward Aboriginals. In 2019 though, well a lot would be pondering what, exactly, is the ongoing issue there that hasn't already been fixed?

Economics and infrastructure, both taken in their broadest sense, would capture most of what's concerning the average person at the moment I think.
 
sptrawler said:
An Interesting article on Bloomberg, regarding the election results and demographics. It kind of backs up Rumpy's comment.
Labor seem to be attracting the yuppy left leaning intellectuals, at the expense of the blue collar middle class.
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I think it's the middle class more generally, white collar as well as blue, and that some of the more radical and highly publicised "Left" issues won't be helping Labor's cause even though they're not Labor policy as such.

By that I mean the sort of "Left" thinking that's typified by concepts and words like "mansplaining".

From what I've observed that sort of thing, the whole concept of gender wars and age wars, doesn't go down overly well with people of either gender or any age who have work to do and lives to live. Whilst Labor wasn't weighing into that specific example, it's definitely a "Left" thing and Labor is associated with the Left quite clearly and most certainly did have "age" as a key policy plank.

Most people just want to get on with their lives basically and are more worried about real problems than manufactured ones.

Labor seem to be competing more against what would be natural Greens policies than against the Coalition.
 
Toyota Lexcen said:
unions are irrelevant these days. The CFMEU can rally all they like in the CBD's, they represent probably 1 in 5 construction workers.

the towers we get built (if any get built). its an isolated sector
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Less deaths on site and a better quality build is what you would get.
Union sites people speak up about safety without fear of the arse
You would have to have rocks in your head to buy some of these apartments
 
wayneL said:
Further reducing our competitiveness. Cost of living and housing is the corollaric(sic) and more correct angle of attack imo.
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What a muppet statement get out of the stable and turn off Channel Rupert
 
Humid said:
Less deaths on site and a better quality build is what you would get.
Union sites people speak up about safety without fear of the arse
You would have to have rocks in your head to buy some of these apartments
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BS I've seen what went on Sydney.
 
Humid said:
Less deaths on site and a better quality build is what you would get.
Union sites people speak up about safety without fear of the arse
You would have to have rocks in your head to buy some of these apartments
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?

Somebody commented that unions are going to be militant now the coalition in.

When was last time a CBD site was open for 40hr week? People who work on those sites are greedy greedy people.

Best opportunity to significantly raise membership and they blow it year after year.

The union the quietest its ever been
 
Humid said:
Well I’ve worked in the industry and it’s chalk and cheese but enlighten me I don’t work in that $hithole
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Melbourne was as bad.
I'm not sticking my neck publicly on the block again.
 

There’s more than one union mate!
Not any greedier than the developers.
How many of these workers live anywhere near the city?
How many of you ever risked a 20k fine for not going to work
 
Humid said:
Less deaths on site and a better quality build is what you would get.
Union sites people speak up about safety without fear of the arse
You would have to have rocks in your head to buy some of these apartments
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Absolutely true major issues with the latest apartments right across Australia non union bogey construction company's I have absolutely no sympathy.

As for safety unions changed the deaths per site budgets (I have work such jobs) but people still buy the anti union BS decades later.
 


Clearly you don't understand the draconian laws that are against workers right to carry out industrial action.

Hence workers get fu(k over and clearly you have never been in the industry to understand.
 
Congrats to Sco Mo and Co.

Just one thing though... Don't use the C word in your victory speech

 
Humid said:
What a muppet statement get out of the stable and turn off Channel Rupert
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Your response convinces me I'm correct.

We already have the highest cost of business in the OECD. That needs to be reduced along with cost of living, thereby maging wages *relatively (if not actually) higher.

I acknowledge it's a complicated and almist insurmountable problem.
 
Dollars' up .78% .8% of late. Green day for ASX200 maybe ?
 
wayneL said:
Your response convinces me I'm correct.
We already have the highest cost of business in the OECD. That needs to be reduced along with cost of living, thereby maging wages *relatively (if not actually) higher.
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Another load of cobblers.
It's much easier to do business in Australia than in most countries in Europe, while starting a business is easier still. Our brothers across the ditch rank best amongst all high income nations.
 
"Ease" of doing business <> "cost" of doing business. When I have a moment Ill see if I can find the relevant figures.
 
Enough about Labor, they stuffed it.
Going forward, what are the sitting government do for this country that will improve things? More of the same very little more if the markets are any guide:
1/ Housing market is tanking
2/ Dollar is tanking
3/ Stock market wave B looks to be topping and has been a very choppy and anaemic rise compared to other world stock indices not even overtaking 2007 high.
Look below:
A very rare sight these days..... we make next to no value added goods. Whatever was left was killed almost entirely
by one term Tony. Why is it that other countries around the world have gone all out to protect their industries but these clowns have not?
We have gone from a nation that was self sufficient, and having so many diverse industries to relying digging up the dirt and sending it to China and housing. Housing has already turned the corner.
Putting all our eggs in the China basket is and will cost us dearly one day and even now as the trade wars have started to really heat up.
 
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