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Did not see that coming. Well done to sco mo, he pulled a rabbit out of his arse on this one.
Billy and the old labor guard reached too far.

I'm actually shocked. Happy labor bit the dust. Not that happy that we may get another 'iron rule' liberal party. I hope the hardliner righties get assed from their seats.
 
sptrawler said:
The polling shows what the polsters want to happen.
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I think that’s plausibly one factor, at least some organisations could be producing “poll” results as a tool to influence the result.

Another thing though is that I do think rather a lot of people wanted to vote Labor, wanted to be rid of the Coalition, but when the crunch came just didn’t feel comfortable in doing so.

Labor’s stance could be summed up as “just trust me” on a big vision and if you don’t like it then vote for someone else.

Sorry Bill, but “just trust me” would be a shocking position from a government and is off the scale coming from the Opposition. It’s the exact opposite of accountability. No surprise then that many have taken Bill’s advice and voted for someone else.

Had it not been for that arrogance then I think quite a few who wanted to be rid of the Coalition would actually have voted Labor.

Just my thoughts.
 
Smurf1976 said:
I think that’s plausibly one factor, at least some organisations could be producing “poll” results as a tool to influence the result.

Another thing though is that I do think rather a lot of people wanted to vote Labor, wanted to be rid of the Coalition, but when the crunch came just didn’t feel comfortable in doing so.

Labor’s stance could be summed up as “just trust me” on a big vision and if you don’t like it then vote for someone else.

Sorry Bill, but “just trust me” would be a shocking position from a government and is off the scale coming from the Opposition. It’s the exact opposite of accountability.

Had it not been for that arrogance then I think quite a few who wanted to be rid of the Coalition would actually have voted Labor.

Just my thoughts.
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Especially with a personality rating that never moved up.
Trust me Im Bill, Kev and Julias knife merchant.
 
Bill pis$ed off pensioners, small business, investors, accountants, builders etc.

He ran has been rejects from the Gillard era. And they had an arrogance to them. (Hope they clear the decks).

Sco mo ran a one man race after a leader was knifed and still won. I don't even know what policies he ran with.
 
Well, it's the end of big ideas.

The country will retreat into a US like everyone for themselves and petty politics wins.

Shame.
 
If Labor thinks the people have rejected the concept of a grand vision then I disagree.

They’ve rejected the arrogant dismissal of legitimate concerns about the detail not the concept of a grand vision itself.

For the record my #1 vote didn’t go to either of the major parties.
 
All this shows is ScoMo should have been put in to replace Abbott years ago, as we said.
The problem was, the SMH and Labor wanted easy roll Turnbull in, well thank god they flucked him off in time.
Sorry Knobby but as Wayne and I said years ago, Turnbull should have been the Labor leader.
Now lets get on and sort $hit out.
 
Ferret said:
I was totally turned off Labor a month ago when Bowen said if you don't like our franking credits policy, then don't vote for us.
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Right at this moment on the ABC - Labor arguing the case for all sorts of minority groups and that Labor will stand up for them.

And yet during the campaign “they’re just a minority” was the argument used to justify hurting lower-middle income recipients of franking credits.

The party needs to make its mind up one way or the other. Either minorities matter or they don’t, what the specific issue is shouldn’t change that.
 
Smurf1976 said:
If Labor thinks the people have rejected the concept of a grand vision then I disagree.

They’ve rejected the arrogant dismissal of legitimate concerns about the detail not the concept of a grand vision itself.

For the record my #1 vote didn’t go to either of the major parties.
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For the record my #1 vote went for Libs in the reps and the senate, the greens and labor got bottom score on both.
So for Humids record, I havent voted Labor, since I voted for Bob Hawke the second time, saves you having to ask again.
 
I'll call bs on climate change being the number one issue as well. These polls seem rigged. High cost of living would have to be the number one.
 
How the hell Shorten could say he would take money of those who have put their money into super, because they dont pay tax.
Yet give the same money to people who get Government handouts, is stupid.
Then to justify it by saying we cant afford it, just expects everyone to be stupid.
The arrogance and dismissiveness of wage earners is appalling.
Thank god people arent stupid.IMO
 
That's a nice unexpected surprise and remove the rush to relocate and wind down my company and assets here.
Maybe Australian majority want to work for Australians, not any loud set of tribes/minority
Now let's get to work and be ready for the black clouds ahead
 
Clive Palmer looks like not getting into the Senate! Just shows you can't buy your way in. One Nation did much better. Greens also looking strong.
 
Some kind of evening, and into the bargain, the Swanees hung on against the Shinboners in the seat of Blundstone Arena.
What a shift in Australian politics:
- workers are voting for the Coalition, whilst
- silvertails are going with the Green Left - after all, their franking credits aren't at risk, and they can probably afford expensive electricity and plug-in cars
 
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