You might want to polish your stock related nous as the easy street franking bus is losing its wheels pops
You might want to polish your stock related nous as the easy street franking bus is losing its wheels popsWell carefull you don't look into it.
By the way have you made a stock related post yet? Or are you still just trolling?
After all you have been on the forum for over a year now, isn't it time you started contributing?
You might want to polish up on any financial nous, because you are going to need it, when you stop work, young fella.You might want to polish your stock related nous as the easy street franking bus is losing its wheels pops
Tony Abbott's curious statement on Hawke...
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To which someone replied:
"This is tasteless. A great former Prime Minister has passed and you've taken the opportunity to rewrite history for your own political positioning.
Also it's the 16th of May, not the 17th. Seems you've rewritten the future while you were at it."
I think Mr Abbott will pay dearly for that bit of attempted political millimeterage...
It's not the done thing to attempt to politicise statements on indulgence.Why? it is true. If anything I think Abbott is giving him credit.
https://thewest.com.au/politics/far...r-skoller-and-diehard-romantic-ng-b881202098z
From the article:
After replacing Labor leader Bill Hayden in February 1980, Hawke led a landslide victory in 1983 to overthrow a tired Malcolm Fraser government before he went on to become Australia’s longest-serving Labor prime minister.
In nine months, together with the Robin to his Batman in Treasurer Paul Keating, the Hawke government had floated the Australian dollar and went on to privatise the Commonwealth Bank, Qantas and deregulated the markets with an Accord between the ALP and Australian Council of Trade Unions. Throughout his time in The Lodge he created what we now know as Medicare, superannuation and enterprising bargaining agreements.
If he was nasty, he could have brought up the pilots dispute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Australian_pilots'_dispute
If Abbott had finesse and speaking skills, he would still be the Libs leader, I do think that it reads as a complimentary tribute.It's not the done thing to attempt to politicise statements on indulgence.
Maybe that wasn't his real motive but I reckon many will take the view that it was.
It looked pretty clumsy to me.
Sometimes I feel the same way mate.If Abbott had finesse and speaking skills, he would still be the Libs leader, I do think that it reads as a complimentary tribute.
Hawke had flaws that could be aired, if he wanted to be nasty. I just think Abbott is so on the nose, no matter what he said, it would be criticised.
Like I said, he never was a skilled speaker and I'm with you and actually don't care what he says.Sometimes I feel the same way mate.
I read a comment today about people being blind for expressing their opinion on here...
I seem to remember someone else taking offense to a comment about TLS shares once
Well... Abbott himself obviously wasn't happy with his tribute so he released another one.
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Hey I don't care what he says - personally I think he would've been better off with one of his 20 second silent nodding acts - but plenty of people thought it was tasteless and he's trying to win an election on two days time. He may have just done the country a favour
Nah - it's all good mate. Nothing wrong with defending him. I'm all for free speechLike I said, he never was a skilled speaker and I'm with you and actually don't care what he says.
Sorry if it appeared I was defending him, I wasn't, I was just making an observation.
Just got home late last night, so I'm not abreast of any sniping Abbott may have been doing.
Much was said during the 1960’s - 00’s about tolerance, respect, equality, diversity of opinions and so on.Sometimes I feel the same way mate.
I read a comment today about people being blind for expressing their opinion on here...
I think Abbott is way past defending, it was just my take on the text, as written.Nah - it's all good mate. Nothing wrong with defending him. I'm all for free speech
No argument there. On the mainstream point I seem to remember another former PM stating to win an election you need to get votes from the centre.Much was said during the 1960’s - 00’s about tolerance, respect, equality, diversity of opinions and so on.
In the past I used to wonder how the likes of Hitler ever got anywhere, it all seemed too bizarre that the masses would be sucked in by something like that. Everyone thinks for themselves, right?
Looking at where things have ended up in 2019 with essentially zero tolerance for diversity of thought it’s both educational and frightening.
Educational because so much history now makes sense.
Frightening because we’re heading down exactly the same track. Agree with the mainstream “or else....” and that sure isn’t a good development.
It is scary. Funny how progressive has become regressive.Much was said during the 1960’s - 00’s about tolerance, respect, equality, diversity of opinions and so on.
In the past I used to wonder how the likes of Hitler ever got anywhere, it all seemed too bizarre that the masses would be sucked in by something like that. Everyone thinks for themselves, right?
Looking at where things have ended up in 2019 with essentially zero tolerance for diversity of thought it’s both educational and frightening.
Educational because so much history now makes sense.
Frightening because we’re heading down exactly the same track. Agree with the mainstream “or else....” and that sure isn’t a good development.
Here is an article about the response to Abbott's post.Nah - it's all good mate. Nothing wrong with defending him. I'm all for free speech
True, Except Pauline but she missed the intelligence test in my opinionHere is an article about the response to Abbott's post.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/lib...his-tribute-to-bob-hawke-20190516-p51o90.html
From the article:
Former Hawke minister Susan Ryan rebuked Mr Abbott on ABC television, saying there was “nothing Liberal about Bob”.
“He was absolutely Labor through and through. He loved the Labor movement. He loved nothing more in his later years than getting together with union colleagues, singing Solidarity for Ever, knowing the verses. It came from the heart,” she said.
“The idea that he would advance and create new directions in terms of deregulation was not Labor being Liberal, it was just hugely intelligent understanding of the way the world was going and making decisions that would ultimately be best for all the people of Australia.”
To me that is similar to what Abbott said, a Labor heart and a Liberal head with his deregulation policy.
The thing with Hawke, he had a 75% popularity rating, which meant he had backing to do just about anything.
The majority of people, felt that he had Australia at heart and whatever he chose to do, they trusted it was for the best.
There are very few politicians anywhere, that gain that amount of public trust.
Re reading 'The Dark Valley'by historian Piers Brendon .The years between the two world wars.This explains very well how the Nazis came to power in Germany.The book has sections on Italy (el Duce rise) Britain,USA,Japan(rise of the military) and Russia.Each page has interesting and often amusing ancecdotes.Much was said during the 1960’s - 00’s about tolerance, respect, equality, diversity of opinions and so on.
In the past I used to wonder how the likes of Hitler ever got anywhere, it all seemed too bizarre that the masses would be sucked in by something like that. Everyone thinks for themselves, right?
Looking at where things have ended up in 2019 with essentially zero tolerance for diversity of thought it’s both educational and frightening.
Educational because so much history now makes sense.
Frightening because we’re heading down exactly the same track. Agree with the mainstream “or else....” and that sure isn’t a good development.
The data in your post would seem to suggest that a cap, not complete removal, would rectify the problem without the collateral damage which Labor's current proposal brings.
Well you can wing it or give it all due diligence you like and then you have a change in government and your bent over again.You might want to polish up on any financial nous, because you are going to need it, when you stop work, young fella.
I own my house and have enough to see me through, the pension in its current form, probably wont be there when you arrive.
We are probably drifting off thread, but if it's entertaining, please continue.
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