Are sure you're not missing the point Belli? Self funded retirees take the pressure off the pension system, just as the privately health insured (probably next on Labor's hit list) take the pressure off the public health system.
Labor/Greens are too blinded by ideology and class envy to comprehend this. The Liberals aren't a whole lot better, capping super balance limits under Kelly O'Dwyer.
All self funded retirees ask for is a fair go, and that the goalposts aren't moved after decades of retirement saving. Which is about the first sensible thing I've heard Z.Steggall say.
Your partial quote was misleading.From my understanding general superannuation was established to support people in retirement but not to replace the Age Pension. From Paul Keating's July 1991 speech after he resigned as Treasurer:
Another ill informed comment from the ranks of those who do not understand the social security system!What are the Labor policy's that favor people aged between 20-40?
160B to welfare every year. Save billions from that easy.
Go down to Centrelink and take a look at all the people getting a handout all the while people go to work to pay for their DSP, housing, medication, free transport.
Massive rort.
This is the tired and testing mantra of imbeciles.Because they won't go and get a job.
What are the policy's that favor 20-40yr old?
If that's the quality of your comments then I will leave you to your ignorance.thats not trying to get a job writing an application.
go to sites like gumtree, airtasker, facebook buy & swap sites there are jobs advertised all the time.
the long term bludgers are moved to the disability pension, they live a very comfortable life.
I was thinking,have I ever voted on self interest.I think that I am being honest when I say no.Franking credits come down the list.Before that come the environment,climate change and decent government.Decent government?If the coalition get in again the National Party will be in charge of the MDB again....more rorting dishonesty etc and pork barrelling their parasitic recipients.My member in Mayo,Centre Alliance candidate Rebekhah Sharkie,says they will block franking credit reforms.Well she would say that , Mayo has the oldest population profile in Australia.The proposed reforms that favour younger people are well over due.I hope that they vote in droves.
If that's the quality of your comments then I will leave you to your ignorance.
I agree with this. I grew up in a dole bludger town and the mentality was that they were entitled to government money and did not have to work. That mentality had a huge negative effect on the region for 30+ years. And even today I still know guys in their 40s living in their mums garage happily waking at 1pm and playing xbox.thats not trying to get a job writing an application.
go to sites like gumtree, airtasker, facebook buy & swap sites there are jobs advertised all the time.
the long term bludgers are moved to the disability pension, they live a very comfortable life.
Agreed with your whole post.Both parties really represent the extremes of society now. The Libs under Menzies tried to represent the middle class but have now moved further to the Right, Hawke/Keating did a good job of pragmatic government but Shorten seems to have moved further Left. Personally I would prefer a slightly Left of Centre government as I believe totally free markets and open slather for business to be an ideological failure.
Because they won't go and get a job.
What are the policy's that favor 20-40yr old?
You certainly seem to be taking a balanced view in terms of acknowledging that there are problems with the Labor proposal etc.There are two simple solutions.
First, allow self funded retirees to earn a total income at least equal to the pension, before recouping imputation credits.
Second, and the proposal I sent to Bill Shorten, was for retirees that ordinarily do not pay tax, have their imputation credits treated as income and be taxed according to the prevailing tax regime. This effectively means that up to $18200 in imputation credits would not currently be taxed, and allow those on marginal self funded retirement incomes to continue to live modestly without a tax payer funded pension.
Add me to your list, and I too know several. Well described Smurf, I never really thought about whether I was on any statistical radar, and as such probably largely ignored.Those in this situation tend to be "off the record" almost completely. Not in employment, not on any form of welfare, not drawing on superannuation, paying a bit of tax but not a lot. They largely don't exist from a statistical perspective, they're not captured in anything which records employment, unemployment, pensioners or those living on superannuation since they're doing none of those. As such they're easily overlooked but personally I know a few so it's a real thing most certainly.
I'll be politically incorrect and straight to the point and say that for anyone employed on the basis of physical strength or appearance, and there are huge numbers of both, well then the superannuation preservation age (60) is unrealistic and the Age Pension age (67) is silly to the point of farce.
Count me in just past 50 do i i real want to carry on in it, learning another trendy it language . i think i am past 20 so far in my career, and be always too expensive vs a Bangalore programmerAre you saying that half of ASF members are ####ing ugly and weak as piss?
Count me in just past 50 do i i real want to carry on in it, learning another trendy it language . i think i am past 20 so far in my career, and be always too expensive vs a Bangalore programmer
So i saved and saved and now i am in pre retirement and obviously do not get a cent from the government, as per all my life here since my arrival as a fully educated and trained migrants..but i am now an enemy in the eyes of Labor, how dare i succeed instead of begging and blaming...
Real lineralism please, leave me alone, make people responsible once educated
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