Australia vs. India - Why India WILL WIN

[agro]

Re: Australia vs India - Why India WILL WIN

Your kidding aren't you

After all the carry on there is no way the Idians would have thrown that match. And why bother?

ok i'll withdraw my comments..

well india got smashed under a 'too good to be true' situation
(crowd, fireworks, band) following controversy

but it's a bit suss that pointing and thandulker/ganguli (sp) were omitted...

 

[2020hindsight]

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agro, you reminded me of that song the kids sing ...
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=254268&highlight=ganguly#post254268

Apparently the Indians have sent Ganguly etc home and brought on the short game specialists. (think I'm right - just quoting the missus who knows these things). This song to farewell him from our shores with thanks .

"Bring Ganguly gooly gooly gooly back back
we're in goo we're in goo,,
Bring ..." etc

and this ABC article from two - oops three weeks ago (gee time flies - 10 and a half months to Xmas )
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/11/2136878.htm

Ganguly admits unlikely admiration of Aust spirit
Posted Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:47pm AEDT
Updated Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:52pm AEDT
Indian batsman Sourav Ganguly says he disagrees with former Australian players who say the current team was disrespectful to the spirit of the game during the second Test in Sydney.

A number of former Australian players and sporting figures have criticised the way in which the world champions played the game, also including calls for Ricky Ponting to be sacked.

But the former Indian captain has told ESPN the Australians' behaviour was brought out by a desperation to win, and he would have acted in the same way.

"Whatever has happened on the field it didn't look pretty good from outside," he said.

"But I also quietly admired how desperate they were to win."

 

[2020hindsight]

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Good article by Dileep Premachandran

The behaviour on both sides has been appalling and immature. The Indian side could do with being less emotional and more rational, but an Australian team labelled "morons" by one of Bradman's Invincibles also needs to take a long, hard look at itself. Saying no to inflammatory ghosted columns might be a good place to start

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2152094.htm

Creating a villain

In another age, Andrew Symonds might have been a Viv Richards-like icon in India. Crowds there troop in for matches with the Kurt Cobain mantra, 'Here we are now, entertain us', on their lips, and few do that better in one-day cricket than Symonds, who shares the same Caribbean heritage as the man they called The King. Sadly though, Symonds took one wrong turn and ended up India's Most Hated instead.

Being part of the media, I'm not sure how much of the blame should go to The Daily Telegraph where Symonds writes his column, but an article titled We Won't Take a Backward Step certainly wasn't the right way to go about endearing himself to a billion Indians. Bang in the middle of a heated one-day series last October, Symonds mouthed off about the country and its celebration of an unexpected win in the inaugural T20 World Cup.

"When we got here, it was just everywhere," he wrote. "Our blokes thought it was over the top. Some of the things their players have been given and the way they are treated, it's like they are rock stars and princes. The Indian government gave them a heap of money. Yuvraj Singh got a Porsche. Blokes are getting houses and blocks of land."

As usual things don't happen in isolation... Just like jokes, the ultimate farces also seem to need timing

A bit of perspective first. Five months earlier, Symonds had played his part as Australia won a third consecutive World Cup in the Caribbean. India, one of those expected to challenge them, bombed out against Bangladesh in the first round, having been coached by Greg Chappell, an Australian legend

No-hopers when they went to South Africa, MS Dhoni and his men beat England, South Africa, Australia and Pakistan to win the title. It may not have been the 50-over trophy, but it was still something to savour for a nation starved of success. Symonds' comments were akin to telling a curvaceous woman that she really shouldn't wear that dress, and they sparked a furore.

Perhaps he was motivated by envy. Perhaps he forgot to engage his brain. Whatever it was, the anger of the crowds was palpable. Some say that the targeting of Symonds with monkey chants was proof of inherent racism. They neglected to mention the adulation that followed the likes of Adam Gilchrist and Matthew Hayden around the country. The reason Symonds was bagged had very little to do with his ancestry and everything to do with the manner in which he had disparaged a young nation still trying to find its niche in the world.

Perhaps 30 years ago, young men like Harbhajan Singh and Sreesanth, the two named as stirrers by the Australian media, might have taken such slurs lying down. Now, emboldened by an economy that's on the long march to prosperity and inspired by a generation of legends like Sachin Tendulkar and Anil Kumble, they're not afraid to look anyone in the eye. They crossed the thin white line a few times, but many teams that have played Australia would tell you the same thing about cricketers that wear the baggy green. Exhibit number one would be Graeme Smith's account of the relentless sledging he received in his debut series.

The perception that the Indian board pushed the ICC into a corner in the aftermath of Sydney is also only half-right. The BCCI, primarily obsessed with filling its bottomless coffers, was forced to do so by senior players incensed at the manner in which Harbhajan, a known hothead, had been wound up. Tendulkar was adamant that no racist slur was used and that it was a case of paying Symonds back in his own currency.

The behaviour on both sides has been appalling and immature. The Indian side could do with being less emotional and more rational, but an Australian team labelled "morons" by one of Bradman's Invincibles also needs to take a long, hard look at itself. Saying no to inflammatory ghosted columns might be a good place to start.

 

[Bushman]

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20/20 cricket is a farce. The game i watched last night was the worst game of cricket I have ever seen. Why do people enjoy this muck?

India were 4/20 odd after 5 overs. Apart from Sehwag's run out, all were extraordinarily poor cricket shots. Yet the Channel 9 commentators were lauding Australia's excellent bowling. Reckon I would have had chance with my slow mediums as they all tried to hit the cover off the ball on a slow pitch.

Test cricket is 100 times more gratifying. 20/20 games are usually over within the first 5 overs. Bollocks!

And yes I realise I don't have to watch...

 

[nomore4s]

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20/20 cricket is a farce. The game i watched last night was the worst game of cricket I have ever seen. Why do people enjoy this muck?

India were 4/20 odd after 5 overs. Apart from Sehwag's run out, all were extraordinarily poor cricket shots. Yet the Channel 9 commentators were lauding Australia's excellent bowling. Reckon I would have had chance with my slow mediums as they all tried to hit the cover off the ball on a slow pitch.

Test cricket is 100 times more gratifying. 20/20 games are usually over within the first 5 overs. Bollocks!

And yes I realise I don't have to watch...

lol, I agree to a certain extent, too much luck involved imo, a bit hit or miss if you like, I haven't seen many 20/20 games that were actually really exciting to watch.

I think they should extend the 20/20 format to 2 innings of 20 overs for each team, this might make things more interesting. Last night for instance, instead of India just throwing wickets away in the chase for quick runs they would have tried to make a few more "sedate" runs to give themselves a chance in the 2nd dig, also Aust innings would have been alot more interesting.
It would extend games like last night out so spectators get thier moneys worth, would have felt ripped off last night if I was there.

 

[agro]

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20/20 cricket is a farce. The game i watched last night was the worst game of cricket I have ever seen. Why do people enjoy this muck?

India were 4/20 odd after 5 overs. Apart from Sehwag's run out, all were extraordinarily poor cricket shots. Yet the Channel 9 commentators were lauding Australia's excellent bowling. Reckon I would have had chance with my slow mediums as they all tried to hit the cover off the ball on a slow pitch.

Test cricket is 100 times more gratifying. 20/20 games are usually over within the first 5 overs. Bollocks!

And yes I realise I don't have to watch...

i prefer 20/20 personally..

it's much faster and usually in the time period of a soccer or football match and exciting

i just find test matches very dull, unless your lying on the couch like a potato with a beer on a hot day

 

[2020hindsight]

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I think they should extend the 20/20 format to 2 innings of 20 overs for each team, this might make things more interesting.

..It would extend games like last night out so spectators get thier moneys worth, would have felt ripped off last night if I was there.

100% agree nomores - except perhaps two innings of 15? whatever. But at least two bats each.

btw When Gilie retires, they'll probably call it "nomore 6s" lol

IMO More fitting for the available time for pressure living 21st centurians than the 5 day tests from some bygone days of the East India Company on the green with the servants peddling the windvanes above their heads

I'm with agro - I like the idea / principle of the faster game -
Also more like a game of baseball for fast action !

Speaking of which , basball manages to get 7 innings in.
at least they could have two in 15/15/15/15 = i.e. 30/30? (you'd think)
"and at the bottom of the second we have the underdogs on top" etc.


PS my boys all played baseball (me too) - it was fun. fast and furious - plenty of action. But my mate's kids played cricket - he used to read the SMH paper cover to cover three times while the kids stood around in the sun for "n" hours every Saturday morning

 

[2020hindsight]

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and a disaster last night ( as you say) because the team batting first was out so early (12 overs whatever) - and we only needed 11 to catch em
half a game !
12/11 whatever - the spectators were robbed.

PS I enjoyed Gillie's comments with the mike.
"oops I'm out- as soon as he'd hit it "

 

[Bushman]

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IMO More fitting for the available time for pressure living 21st centurians than the 5 day tests from some bygone days of the East India Company on the green with the servants peddling the windvanes above their heads

Each to their own as with everything in life.

Test cricket will always be the pure form of the game for me. But life is fast paced these days and concentration spans are shorter so 20/20 will be here to stay.

Two innings of 15 overs is a great idea. Cuts down the slogging and improves the skill level.

Just get rid off the variety show entertainment. Stick to dunking a drunk fan in a vat of water.

 

[2020hindsight]

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Each to their own as with everything in life. Test cricket will always be the pure form of the game for me.

fair enough mate
I guess I enjoy tests as well - but noway can anyone reasonably sitdown for 5 days to watch it. - unless they summarise the highlights in 30 mins per day I guess.

 

[Kauri]

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originally test matches were played until one team won... then it became a set time... then we had one day cricket..... then we had 20/20... next what will it be 5/5 ???
NOT Cheering
..................Kauri

 

[copper_hot]

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You guys following the one dayers?

india got robbed first two games in brissy, pity...

 

[doctorj]

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You guys following the one dayers?

india got robbed first two games in brissy, pity...

Yea pity

Would have loved to see the Sri Lankans bat. Personally, I think India were lucky to escape the first two games without a loss.

 

[Santob]

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originally test matches were played until one team won... then it became a set time... then we had one day cricket..... then we had 20/20... next what will it be 5/5 ???
NOT Cheering
..................Kauri

Judging by the result of the single T20 match, the answer is obvious - the game takes too long.

 

[nioka]

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You guys following the one dayers?

india got robbed first two games in brissy, pity...

The only thing they were robbed of was match practice. I rather think it was a case of saved by the rain. I do agree though that they are a good team and do have a chance, more so now that they avoided a defeat in their first match by being saved by the rain.

 

[Aussiejeff]

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Tomorrows game could also be in doubt...

Forecast in Sydney is for overcast, with morning and evening showers. After the 140mm or drenching that has fallen in Sydney the past couple of days, I'd say the ground might be a tad "squidgy".

Looks like it could be "Bad Weather" 3 vs "Cricketers" 0 !!

Better make the next series all indoors at the Melbourne Tennis Centre with the roof closed! LOL


AJ

 

[tech/a]

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Ah

Sunny Adelaide.
Never a problem here.
We even send it over the Melbourne like everything else.
Backwaters great for staying un noticed.