Aussie Stock Forums code of conduct

[tulip]

Just found an absoute diamond of a quote among an excellent thread that tech/a started.

"Ive mellowed over the years as I UNDERSTOOD that not everyone will choose that which Ive chosen."

I'm speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :goodnight

 

[money tree]

Perhaps that means that he gave up trying to change everyones religion, which begs the question.....why was he trying to do that?

so this is the mellow version of tech/a. wow.....

HAPPY BDAY JOE

 

[tulip]

tech/a has commented "For me trading is only a small % of my business dealings and if the market tanks Ill be more concerned about other things than my portfolio."

Let's assume the small percentage tech/a is talking about is say 5%
(is that reasonable?). I'm sure he mentioned making millions on the market. lets assume he made a paltry million last year. If this represents 5%, then the other 95% must be (2 divided by 5, carry the one ..... take away the hypotenuese and square the inverse ..... thinking out load here) $19 million, making his profit $20 million for last year.

We are priveleged to have him here. And before you go on about sarcasm Joe, I'm truly grateful that someone who is probably on the BRW Rich List takes the time to educate us poor mugs. I wouldn't mind some of his input regarding how to run a successful business.

 

[Joe Blow]

Tulip,

This thread is about the code of conduct, not tech/a or his other threads.

Now are you here to contribute in a positive way or are you here to play puerile personality games?

Give it up, or find somewhere else to play.

No more warnings.

 

[Joe Blow]

Draft of Aussie Stock Forums code of conduct:

1. Aussie Stock Forums was established and is built around the concepts of mutual respect and the free exchange of information and knowledge for the benefit of all.

2. All members will treat other members with the utmost respect at all times. This means insults, name calling, personal attacks and the abuse of other members in any way are strictly forbidden. Please, treat other members as you yourself would wish to be treated. Offenders will be warned once and then have their account suspended from Aussie Stock Forums for a period of time to be determind by the administrator.

3. Obscene language and the use of language that is sexist, racist, harassing or threatening is stricly forbidden and will not be tolerated.

4. Please do not ask for financial advice on Aussie Stock Forums. It is illegal for anyone other than a licensed financial advisor to give you financial advice. Aussie Stock Forums is intended soley for the open discussion of stockmarket related topics.

5. Please keep all threads ON TOPIC. If you feel like going off on a tangent, start another thread! Off topic posts may be deleted by the administrator or forum moderators.

6. You, and you alone, are responsible for the content of your posts. Any information that you post must be true or accurate to the best of your knowledge. If you are unsure of the accuracy of any information, your post should include the appropriate qualifications. Keep in mind that you may be liable for anything that you say that may be defamatory, threatening or that contravenes securities law.

7. Aussie Stock Forums must not be used for any illegal activity, including the breach of copyright or privacy legislation. It is forbidden for any member to post personal information about another member anywhere on Aussie Stock Forums.

8. You are forbidden to use Aussie Stock Forums for commercial activity of any kind without receiving prior permission from the administrator. This includes the use of affiliate referral codes.

9. Please be aware that it is impossible for Aussie Stock Forums to confirm the identities of it's members and that some members may misrepresent themselves, their holdings or their qualifications for the purposes of fraud and/or financial gain.

10. You grant Aussie Stock Forums a perpetual license to disseminate, republish, reprint or display, in any form, any content you post on Aussie Stock Forums without any obligation to notify you, assign credit or compensate you in any way.

11. If you believe a member has violated any of these codes of conduct, has breached the Aussie Stock Forums terms and conditions or has posted in violation of securities law, please contact the administrator of this site immediately at abuse@aussiestockforums.com

I welcome your comments and/or suggestions.

 

[doctorj]

I think these codes are a good start in forming a guide on what is and is not acceptable on these forums.

I do have to ask though, why is number 10 worded in such the way as it is, infact why do you believe it necessary at all? Reproducing someone's work without a reference is plagurism and to my knowledge, a breach of copyright law. Any post will remain the property of the author, irrespective of any condition to the contrary as long as the party seeking to reproduce the article without credit does not enter into a contract with the owner to the contrary.

 

[Joe Blow]

I think these codes are a good start in forming a guide on what is and is not acceptable on these forums.

I do have to ask though, why is number 10 worded in such the way as it is, infact why do you believe it necessary at all? Reproducing someone's work without a reference is plagurism and to my knowledge, a breach of copyright law. Any post will remain the property of the author, irrespective of any condition to the contrary as long as the party seeking to reproduce the article without credit does not enter into a contract with the owner to the contrary.

doctorj,

I do not have the contact details of any Aussie Stock Forums members because it is not required in the registration process, so it is not possible to notify or properly credit a member - particularly an inactive member - if their post is to be reproduced on another site via, say, an RSS feed (which is a form of syndication). See here for details on RSS feeds: https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_rss_syndication

You'll find a disclaimer of this sort on most forums.

 

[doctorj]

Do the RSS feeds reproduce the whole post or just the subject line? Do they produce the pseudonym the poster operates under? I'd argue that crediting the pseudonym is sufficient.

I doubt I have anything to say which is of value, but I was curious as to why you might have included it in the code when you were presumably writing it from scratch. That said, the idea that a condition of posting to this site being that it may be reproduced as your own, potentially for a profit is a little concerning. Not saying you would, but to me that is the purpose of such a clause.

At worst, I'm playing devil's advocate. I do think that in this case it's important the point is raised, as I very much doubt that the clause would be binding.

 

[Joe Blow]

Do the RSS feeds reproduce the whole post or just the subject line? Do they produce the pseudonym the poster operates under? I'd argue that crediting the pseudonym is sufficient.

I doubt I have anything to say which is of value, but I was curious as to why you might have included it in the code when you were presumably writing it from scratch. That said, the idea that a condition of posting to this site being that it may be reproduced as your own, potentially for a profit is a little concerning. Not saying you would, but to me that is the purpose of such a clause.

doctorj,

I haven't actually experimented with RSS feeds but I'm certain they would include the post title and username. I will look into it anyway.

Let me assure you that I would never allow a post here on Aussie Stock Forums to EVER be credited to me (unless it was mine), nor do I intend to publish "Aussie Stock Forums: The Complete Posts" for profit!

The disclaimer is just a way of saying the content of your post may be seen on other sites and you won't be notified or paid.

 

[doctorj]

If it credits the poster, you don't intend to represent the ideas as your own and you don't want to profit from it, the entire clause is pretty redundant =)

 

[Jett_Star]

dr j chill

such clauses are standard procedure in the public domain

 

[tulip]

What about people who come on and mis-represent themselves deliberately or by inference which leads to new members (of which we have all been at one stage or another) being seduced into an investment strategy or tips, that they don’t understand and that ultimately will cost them their investment capital or worse. Caveat Emptor doesn’t or morally shouldn’t apply in this case, and I’m not talking about physically paying for something here.

Your draft set of rules covers everybody from any sort of insult, but they do not cover those people new to the sharemarket from charlatans. I can stand up for myself, but can our newest members looking for advice? You will be legally covered but morally?

My suggestions are:

1) At your discretion suspend a member for a period of time, never ban them for life.
2) Suspend a poster if there are say 10 or more complaints, and publish the names (nics) of the complainents should a suspension take place. Most forums are controlled by a few (hmmm) to the frustration of the majority. This will ensure that those who could destroy the fabric of the forum are evicted (maybe I’m one of them) but also that vendettas (you need numbers) do not occur. Once again, do not suspend anyone for life.

No matter what happens the control is firmly in your hands but also influenced by your members.

 

[stockgod]

Lets have a sin bin, Where ppl get a ban with a count down clock next to there name. once its back to zero then they may post again.

 

[tech/a]

Tulip.
I wouldn't mind some of his input regarding how to run a successful business.

Happy to help.

(1)Dont under estimate your competition.
(2)Dont flame the competition.
(3)Dont mistake silence for weakness.
(4)If you have a code of conduct LIVE by it as it can work both for and against you.
(5)Business is Business.
(6)Get the NUMBERS right!
(6a)Get your staff right!
(7)Borrow only when you CAN not when you HAVE TO.
(8)Who's the smarter the expert or he with a degree or he who employs them!
(9)There are 2 biggies in life ,BIRTH and DEATH everything else fills in the time in between.
(10)Let your successes be your mouth piece.
(11)The more you give the more youll recieve.
(12)He with the biggest mouth has the smallest wallet.
(13)Dont worry about how to recognise a professional he'll tell you.
(14)Respect is earnt and cannot be demanded.
(15)DO IT.
(16)Dont be afraid to stand alone-------its the best company you can get!
(17)Winners keep their winners losers keep their losers.
(18)Make a habit of finding successful people and picking their brains.(regardless of their type of success)


tech

 

[tulip]

(1)Dont under estimate your competition.
Fair enuff
(2)Dont flame the competition.
Huh?
(3)Dont mistake silence for weakness.
Huh?
(4)If you have a code of conduct LIVE by it as it can work both for and against you.
Huh?
(5)Business is Business.
Huh?
(6)Get the NUMBERS right!
OK
(6a)Get your staff right!
OK
(7)Borrow only when you CAN not when you HAVE TO.
It all depends what the funds will be used for.
(8)Who's the smarter the expert or he with a degree or he who employs them!
How do you monitor and set performance targets for a qualified staff member unless you have some understanding of their area of expertise.
(9)There are 2 biggies in life ,BIRTH and DEATH everything else fills in the time in between.
OK
(10)Let your successes be your mouth piece.
Not if your in marketing, which we all are.
(11)The more you give the more youll recieve.
Yup
(12)He with the biggest mouth has the smallest wallet.
Greg Norman would probably disagree with that statement!
(13)Dont worry about how to recognise a professional he'll tell you.
Get that chip off your shoulder pal!
(14)Respect is earnt and cannot be demanded.
Grade 1 stuff
(15)DO IT.
Think Nike beat you to the punch
(16)Dont be afraid to stand alone-------its the best company you can get!
Bit like your sex life eh?
(17)Winners keep their winners losers keep their losers.
OK
(18)Make a habit of finding successful people and picking their brains.(regardless of their type of success)
Not quite there old chum. You need to have a broad understanding of the subject matter to get value from successful people.

You appear to dislike professionals, and believe that by using and manipulating and picking their brains you can have the benefit of the education they have, just by throwing money at them. In addition to their qualifications, they have life experiences that you don’t (as you have life experiences that they don’t). Ask yourself, could the reverse happen and these professional be as successful in your business (which is fireign to them) as you are in your business simply by hiring someone with your qualifications.

 

[tech/a]

As I thought your question was tounge in cheek!
As is your reply.

Moving on.

 

[tulip]

Out of your depth I'd suggest.

 

[tech/a]

Yup clearly no match for me.
Your postings preceed you.
Now where is that shrinks phone number.
He'll love the Problem with professionals issue!

 

[doctorj]

You both need to build a bridge.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this crap. It's time to start showing some level of maturity.

 

[stockgod]

number 19, if you dont know what you are talking about surround your self with ppl who know what you are talking about. A good accountant and lawyer will make you millions if you use them in the right way.