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Hmmm WOW/CCL does look quite good though - I was considering it this morning....CCL hasn't fallen...and you'd think any push on costs by WOW will be negative for CCL. Tough choice. This is almost a fundamental pairs trade rather than statistical so I am trading carefully. It's an area I am interested in expanding into...
Personally I would argue it's still statistical. The back tests don't know when the reporting periods are, and the fact that they are still giving good results means the pair is statistically well-behaved even if the signals are generated from the earnings reports. In fact, the big wins in the back tests are usually the ones generated out of these signals.
That said, I'm not a pure statistical pair trader so I add my own filters that works for me, some technical, and some fundamentals.
Hmmm WOW/CCL does look quite good though - I was considering it this morning....CCL hasn't fallen...and you'd think any push on costs by WOW will be negative for CCL. Tough choice. This is almost a fundamental pairs trade rather than statistical so I am trading carefully. It's an area I am interested in expanding into...
Closed mine at market close today, 1.5% for 3 days of hold, let it come again!
The trade to take was short WES on WOW's report... that was a good low risk trade on open.
And since M/A is hot these days, I think something worth watching for is IIN/TPM, I've never seen price of TPM trading above IIN, so now even 1:1 script offer now means a 14% premium.
I hope you are all over this
I exited my directional IIN position before ex-div 3 days ago...
The market was pulling back, and many ex-div stocks fell a lot more than the dividend itself. But I was prepared to re-establish a position this morning... why couldn't they make the annonucement mid-day?!
I hope you are all over this
I exited my directional IIN position before ex-div 3 days ago...
The market was pulling back, and many ex-div stocks fell a lot more than the dividend itself. But I was prepared to re-establish a position this morning... why couldn't they make the annonucement mid-day?!
And it's back....3.87% on offer for full reversion at the close.
But looking at TPM was doing I probably didn't miss out a lot
So TPM pays 300M premium over the 1.1B IIN was valued at yesterday using debt and the market thinks - lets add another Billion of market cap to TPM. Seems the market just loves PE arbitrage at the moment.
Have had a decent start back to pairs after the reporting season break...but a bit of a below the belt punch was felt this morning when I saw that ABP has gone into a halt due to a non-renounceable offer. Certainly throws a spanner in the works for my ABP pair. Lucky I have started back with a small size so the effect won't be significant to me.
This is the second A-REIT to raise funds, with SCP doing so also. That combined with the FDC/NVN merger shows that corporate activity is alive and well in this sector - this tells me to keep individual position sizes modest and dont go mavericking around!
This is the second A-REIT to raise funds, with SCP doing so also. That combined with the FDC/NVN merger shows that corporate activity is alive and well in this sector - this tells me to keep individual position sizes modest and dont go mavericking around!
I have ABP long as well but I found that rights issue don't isn't normally that damaging. You can potentially pre-short your entitlement if it open above the TERP and trade your way out of it. Or apply for additional entitlements if available (and price being favourable). The REITs aren't rocketing at the moment, so a 2 down days while ABP is halted might actually work in your favour as well.
Third, GPT had one too (it was a SPP and their board came up with a super stingy scaleback strategy).
Great, looks like we are all in this
How's everyone going today? ABP fell more than expected, I bought in some more at 2.86 hoping to recoup some losses, now considering ABP/anything at market close maybe.
On the bright side, closed all my FDC/NVN after a nice fall on NVN, don't think I will wait for the convergence this time.
How's everyone going today? ABP fell more than expected, I bought in some more at 2.86 hoping to recoup some losses, now considering ABP/anything at market close maybe.
On the bright side, closed all my FDC/NVN after a nice fall on NVN, don't think I will wait for the convergence this time.
I am doing quite well with my pairs so far..but as I said earlier...very small sizes while I rebuild my confidence.
Well that changed quickly. Now >-5%Yes, ABP has fallen a bit more - and the offer doesnt really help a whole lot as its 1-12. Im still down on that trade but I have it with CHC which has co-operated so the loss is <1% currently.
Ended up closing the next day (yesterday) after you guys. It's blown out again! Purely looking at it from a optimistic perception would have you mouth watering with 5%+ again on offer...but the fact that this is trending lower and lower is concerning. I haven't heard anything that is jeopardising the deal - but I have certainly been out-of-sync with AREITS for a good few months now so treading cautiously here.Haha... I did the same thing. It blew out to >5% at one stage. I covered them in parts and made like $200
Well that changed quickly. Now >-5%
Ended up closing the next day (yesterday) after you guys. It's blown out again! Purely looking at it from a optimistic perception would have you mouth watering with 5%+ again on offer...but the fact that this is trending lower and lower is concerning. I haven't heard anything that is jeopardising the deal - but I have certainly been out-of-sync with AREITS for a good few months now so treading cautiously here.
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I got out of my ABP/IOF trade earlier Friday morning with minimum damage... although I do have a pair shorting CHC and it seems to be on one of those runs which has the ASKs retreating at great speed.
Nice chart. Thanks. It's almost working the other way... that the rise in NVN is holding FDC high. FDC is now outperforming the major REITs since my last update.
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I have FDC short against another REIT, but in theory I may be should have shorted NVN (sort of gives you 2 trades in 1). I am of the opinion that no one is starting a takeover war for NVN at current prices. It is now trading at 37% above NTA and 5% yield. If you look at the usual suspects like GPT, MGR, SGP etc, their price/NTA are all lower (1.19, 1.21, 1.29), so any script based deal would be dilutive. Then again, someone was willing to pay $9 for TOL and several $B for a default toll road in Indiana. So you can never underestimate what silly aciton that cheap money can produce.
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