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ASF spelling and grammar lessons

I found these amusing anyway
http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Ideas/Fun/Wordplay.htm#FunnyMistakes

 
In the same vein ..


 
Lol, these days you can even get help translating into "Ali G"

 
Nice poem 2020.
This morning I had a "dogs eye"...."meat pie" ...
was that a Ruby one then?

today I buried my mobile dog to get a bit of peace

The logic is Ruby => Ruby Murray => curry, so "having a Ruby" means eating a curry. He also wrote that his girlfriend was "chatting to me on the dog". The logic is dog => dog and bone => phone, so "chatting on the dog" means talking on the telephone.

Often wondered where "rabbitting" originated
"She has been rabbiting on for ages" means "she has been talking for ages" (rabbit => rabbit and pork => talk)
 
before introducing spoonerisms - here is that famous tongue-twister poem which tempts fate in this matter

The Pheasant Plucker
German/American Tongue Twisters

The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick.
(This is the World's Hardest Tongue Twister, according the Guiness Book of World Records.)

Bush Tongue Twisters
Kaliber lager - Billy Connoly (tongue twister)
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism
"I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy"
gee some of these could be called spoonerisms, or a simple plays on words (by any of several other names) .

Still, a good way to introduce some humour into a speech at say a wedding or something

 
This one from Monty Python. (purely as an example of a spoonerism)
(personally I used to find the Two Ronnies laboured it a bit)
 
Found an old book on the use of capitals - or "The Use of Capitals" or whatever :-

1. The first word of a sentence or quote
He said, "Here it is."

2. Proper names or adjectives made from them.
America, American books
The Pacific Ocean

3. Namse of months and days of the week, but not seasons.

4. Academic degrees and titles.
Mr. A. G. Wilson, Bachelor of Arts
The Earl of Kildare

5. Important positions (depending on the importance).
He had just been promoted to the position of colonel.
He rose to the position of Managing Director.

6. Important words in the offcial titles of organisations
The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research

7. Important words in the titles of books etc
At the Sign of the Dollar

8. The first and last words in the salutation of a letter, and the first word of the complimentary close.
Dear Sir,
Mr dear Sir,
Yours faithfully.

Just that I never realised all this - in fact I usually ignore em
 
Oops, a second opinion (which differs) ...
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/592/01/

A Little Help with Capitals
This handout lists some guidelines for capitalization. If you have a question about whether a specific word should be capitalized that doesn't fit under one of these rules, try checking a dictionary to see if the word is capitalized there.

Use capital letters in the following ways:

11. The first words of a sentence
When he tells a joke, he sometimes forgets the punch line.

12. The pronoun "I"
The last time I visited Atlanta was several years ago.

13. Proper nouns (the names of specific people, places, organizations, and sometimes things)
Worrill Fabrication Company
Golden Gate Bridge
Supreme Court
Livingston, Missouri
Atlantic Ocean
Mothers Against Drunk Driving

14. Family relationships (when used as proper names)
I sent a thank-you note to Aunt Abigail, but not to my other aunts.
Here is a present I bought for Mother.
Did you buy a present for your mother?

15. The names of God, specific deities, religious figures, and holy books
God the Father
the Virgin Mary
the Bible
the Greek gods
Moses
Shiva
Buddha
Zeus
Exception: Do not capitalize the non-specific use of the word "god."

The word "polytheistic" means the worship of more than one god.

16. Titles preceding names, but not titles that follow names
She worked as the assistant to Mayor Hanolovi.
I was able to interview Miriam Moss, mayor of Littonville.

17. Directions that are names (North, South, East, and West when used as sections of the country, but not as compass directions)
The Patels have moved to the Southwest.
Jim's house is two miles north of Otterbein.

18. The days of the week, the months of the year, and holidays (but not the seasons used generally)
Halloween
October
Friday
winter
spring
fall

Exception: Seasons are capitalized when used in a title.
The Fall 1999 semester

19. The names of countries, nationalities, and specific languages
Costa Rica
Spanish
French
English

20. The first word in a sentence that is a direct quote
Emerson once said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

21. The major words in the titles of books, articles, and songs (but not short prepositions or the articles "the," "a," or "an," if they are not the first word of the title)
One of Jerry's favorite books is The Catcher in the Rye.

22. Members of national, political, racial, social, civic, and athletic groups
Green Bay Packers
African-Americans
Anti-Semitic
Democrats
Friends of the Wilderness
Chinese

23. Periods and events (but not century numbers)
Victorian Era
Great Depression
Constitutional Convention
sixteenth century

24. Trademarks
Pepsi
Honda
IBM
Microsoft Word

25. Words and abbreviations of specific names (but not names of things that came from specific things but are now general types)
Freudian
NBC
pasteurize
UN
french fries
italics
 
btw, I also reckon this well known sentence is wrong ..
"More dentists recommend Colgate than any other toothpaste".

To me it doesn't meet "parallel construction" requirements. Well I think that's the reason, lol - but can't find it exactly expressed as such.

Like
in the same way you shouldn't say

"I have finished writing the report, and it will be sent to you tomorrow"; and/or
"Character is what we are, but we gain our reputation through the opinion of others"; and/or
"Such a proposal makes not only economies, but also suggests new methods";

you should say

" I have finished writing the report, and will send it to you tomorrow"; and/or
"Character is what we are, but reputation is what we gain through the opinion of others"; and/or
"Such a proposal not only makes economies, but also suggests new methods";
(or "Such a proposal makes not only economies, but also new methods").

......

I just reckon that
"More dentists recommend Colgate than any other toothpaste."
arguably means that

"More dentists than toothpaste recommend Colgate."

and should instead be :-
"More dentists recommend Colgate than recommend any other toothpaste."
But I've yet to find anyone else who agrees with me.


PS one last example
"In the Country of the Blind, he who can see is King; in the Country of the Dumb, that person is the ruler who can speak."
is (apparently) wrong (??)

hence presumably should be changed to more parallel construction ... (sheesh pedantry this one)
"In the Country of the Blind, he who can see is King; in the Country of the Dumb, he who can speak is ruler."
or
"In the Country of the Blind, that person who can see is King; in the Country of the Dumb, that person is the ruler who can speak." etc
 
Frankly I'm not sure. "More" than what number of dentists? The implication is that "Gee, a real whole lot of dentists.........." or is it greater than 50% or less than 2% but given that more than?

I have nothing against which to base "more."
 

I would actually agree with you, 2020, but I think the "correct" version sounds clumsy and a bit silly. If we remember that the primary purpose of language is to communicate, and specifically in this instance that it's an advertisement, then I guess the original simply does it better.
 
thanks for the support Julia
knew we'd agree one day

I mean , for mine it's like saying

"More horticulturalist reports recommend Hereford than any other bulldust."
 
thanks for the support Julia
knew we'd agree one day

I mean , for mine it's like saying

"More horticulturist reports recommend Hereford than any other bull dust."

Bush, Blair and Howard agreeing to war in Iraq did not make it "right".

How is the original wording in the Colgate advertisement grammatically wrong?

It is certainly wrong to say "More horticulturist reports recommend Hereford than any other bulldust" because bulldust is not manure (and horticulturists is the collective term for the profession).
But if you meant "bulldust" to be construed as manure, the sentence is good.
Grammar does not exist in isolation of "meaning".
"Will you vote for Howard or Rudd?"
This has the same grammatical connotation as the original Colgate advertisement, so we don't repeat the question, do we.

"More footballers wear Nike than any other boot."
Seems ok?

"More dentists recommend Colgate than go to church."
Now we are cooking with gas!
Are we saying more dentists are recommending Colgate than are recommending church going?
Or are we saying that there are more dentists that recommend Colgate than there are dentists that go to church?
As a "stand alone" sentence the statement is ambiguous.
However, in the context of a more purposeful sense there would be no need to change the sentence.
For example, if we are reporting census data on dentists and have just provided numbers for Colgate users and, separately, numbers for churchgoers then the sense of the sentence is self evident.
 
How is the original wording in the Colgate advertisement grammatically wrong?

However, in the context of a more purposeful sense there would be no need to change the sentence.

I don't think 2020 was actually saying the original sentence was wrong, Rob, just that perhaps the precise meaning would be better conveyed by his adjusted version.

I could see what he meant and said so. That's all.
Then I added the reason why I thought it was better in its original form.

Now I shall spend the rest of the afternoon worrying about how many dentists go to church.
 
Julia
I agreed with your preference.

2020
If you don't want to indulge in disambiguation then you are welcome to con whom ever.
 
2020
If you don't want to indulge in disambiguation then you are welcome to con whom ever.

Rob,
1. please explain lol

2. how about
"more stock report writers recommend the directors of XYZ than any other churchgoers"

(ps and please don't suggest I go to church to find out if it's
a) the writers or
b) the directors who go there as well )

PS If it's the writers ( which I believe it is no question)
then why isn't the Colgate sentence also wrong -

unless, as you infer, we needn't be exact or perfect - (or entertain arguably unnecessary disambiguation) - because "most people would sort of understand".
 
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