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Actually I can empathise with Mel Greig & Michael Christian too - it's just a tragedy from many angles. IMO it's unlikely that the nurse concerned ended her life due solely to the hoax call, but it certainly seems to have been a contributing factor. I'm sure the radio duo never dreamed that there could be consequences so dire to one of their pranks, and it will no doubt stay with them for the rest of their lives. To be fair to them, they were simply doing what seems to have become common practice for that industry, and their station in particular - and that's what I think needs a shake-up. It's a cop-out to say the they're simply catering to the type of humour the listening audience is tuning into - the typical "prank-call" generally relies on belittling or humiliating it's target - even the so-called harmless prank calls usually leave someone embarrassed and shamefaced. It's cheap humour in my opinion - just like a stand-up comedian who gets his laughs by belittling others - I find the clever ones far funnier than the cruel.
 
"Then to discover that, not only had this happened, but that the call had been pre-recorded and the decision to transmit approved by your station's management, was truly appalling."
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The buck stops with management, no judgement there at all, probably the problem behind previous bad taste and intrusive "pranks"
 
I agree with P Fitzsimons opinion
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/a-tragedy-but-who-is-at-fault-20121208-2b29q.html

As a student of human nature I find it very difficult to believe that the poor woman was not bullied/ridiculed by her boss despite whatever PR they put out after the event. Just look at his body language during interviews.
Does anybody really think she would have committed suicide if she had proper support from her employers/workmates?:2twocents
 
Amber Petty, a 2DayFM breakfast presenter for more than four years, said humiliating stunts were "very much a part of the culture" at the station.

"It's not all commercial radio, it's that company (2DayFM)," she said.

"They just want you to be talked about - they don't care whether it's good or bad."

Another former Austereo breakfast presenter said she was encouraged by her then program director to make listeners cry and would be paid $50 when she did.

She said prank calls had long been part of the fabric of commercial radio.
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http://www.news.com.au/world/radio-...y-to-face-public/story-fndir2ev-1226533223652

Oh yeah. All starting to come out in the dirty washing now.....

IMO "the fabric of commercial radio" needs to be dry-cleaned and hung out to dry. Where are the REAL regs governing behaviour of these shock jocks? Ah, of course. Self-regulation is the cheapest option gummint could come up with. :rolleyes:
 
The more I think about it, it's not the presenters who are to blame, the prank was pre recorded and it was up to management to ok it's airing which they did.

People in charge of the station were responsible for this going to air.

Toxic is the only word to describe the culture at that place and the management should go along with that grub Sandilands, I doubt the 2 presenters who did this would ever go on air again, this will follow them for the rest of their careers.

On the point of illegality, isnt there a law somewhere that says it's illegal to impersonate ?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120303131144AAInuhZ
 
MrBurns said:
The more I think about it, it's not the presenters who are to blame, the prank was pre recorded and it was up to management to ok it's airing which they did.

People in charge of the station were responsible for this going to air.

Toxic is the only word to describe the culture at that place and the management should go along with that grub Sandilands, I doubt the 2 presenters who did this would ever go on air again, this will follow them for the rest of their careers.

On the point of illegality, isnt there a law somewhere that says it's illegal to impersonate ?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120303131144AAInuhZ
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Should be regarded as delving into private and personal affairs and a lot of press is generated by stalking from what I see.

Such laws exist in some statutes but cross border issues will be the problem
 
I thought there was a law that they werent allowed to replay anything on radio, unless they ask you first, has to be with your permission, I could be wrong.
 
waza1960 said:
I agree with P Fitzsimons opinion
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/a-tragedy-but-who-is-at-fault-20121208-2b29q.html

As a student of human nature I find it very difficult to believe that the poor woman was not bullied/ridiculed by her boss despite whatever PR they put out after the event. Just look at his body language during interviews.
Does anybody really think she would have committed suicide if she had proper support from her employers/workmates?:2twocents
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The Peter FitzSimons article is a pretty good analysis I think.

As to whether she was bullied at work, I didn't get that impression myself but it's of course a possibility. It's also possible the nurse may have had personal issues that we are not aware of. The other nurse involved has not taken a similar course of action so to say the prank phone call resulted in this woman's death is taking things way too far IMO.
 
Tink said:
I thought there was a law that they werent allowed to replay anything on radio, unless they ask you first, has to be with your permission, I could be wrong.
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''A licensee must not broadcast the words of an identifiable person unless:

a) That person has been informed in advance or a reasonable person would be aware that the words may be broadcast.

b) In the case of words which have been recorded without the knowledge of that person, that person has subsequently, but prior to the broadcast, expressed consent to the broadcast of their words.''
 
Miss Hale said:
The Peter FitzSimons article is a pretty good analysis I think.

As to whether she was bullied at work, I didn't get that impression myself but it's of course a possibility. It's also possible the nurse may have had personal issues that we are not aware of. The other nurse involved has not taken a similar course of action so to say the prank phone call resulted in this woman's death is taking things way too far IMO.
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Not totally but possibly tipped her over the edge. Doesn't say much for mental health or support within the hospital. She'd been working there for four years and would be reasonably expierenced with her job. Her work mates and staff would know her personally. Poor girl they probably gave her curry. Human nature unfortunately.
I just wonder had they pranked on the 1st of April would that have been exceptable and got the radio station off the hook?
I dont think the panksters would be feeling too good about themselves either. Pranks will always be around it's just unfortunate that the wrong person answered the phone. That's where i think management of the radio station are at fault. Know who your pranking. You wouldn't prank someone you knew that was unstable would you now?
 
MrBurns said:
On the point of illegality, isnt there a law somewhere that says it's illegal to impersonate ?
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I don't know about impersonation (and I wouldn't trust Yahoo Answers to tell me what colour the sky is with any real certainty) but the NSW Listening Devices Act makes it pretty clear you can't record someone without their knowledge. I've never understood how they get around this rule. There must be something I'm missing, because radio prank calls are dime a dozen.

5 Prohibition on use of listening devices

(1) A person shall not use, or cause to be used, a listening device:

(a) to record or listen to a private conversation to which the person is not a party, or

(b) to record a private conversation to which the person is a party.

...

listening device means any instrument, apparatus, equipment or device capable of being used to record or listen to a private conversation simultaneously with its taking place.
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I admire the Australian **** headedness at times, its why you win at sport so much. Great to have the confidence but unfortunately like a young bull its can all blow up in your face. Bad winners and bad losers come to mind. Very little humility.
TBH, the press here is crap beyond belief. For such a rich and prosperous nation much of the press is pure gutter tabloid and that has crossed into the main stream TV and Radio. Today tonight and a current affair crap are good examples of this.
 
DocK said:
IMO it's unlikely that the nurse concerned ended her life due solely to the hoax call, but it certainly seems to have been a contributing factor.
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+1
Highly unlikely (but still probable), that this person ended her life because of this one incident.

Contributing factor, yes. Single factor, probably not.

1) I'm sure that the hospital would have given her a bollocking over this incident, despite what they are saying.
2) 'Devoted mother' wouldn't do this to her kids/family. More behind the scenes than is been reported.
 
bellenuit said:
Sounded right the first time. Your correction changes it to what you didn't mean to say, although I would change "probable" to "possible".
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Double :eek::eek: LOL.

Anyways, as l said before, there is definitely more to this story than we are lead to believe.
 

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