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luutzu said:
They're moving away not because they want to move towards imperialism. They're just getting away from a sinking ship that's about to be invaded. Who can blame them really. You got to put food on the table, get your family out of harms way. You've been warned.

Oil might have, I'm guessing, 50 years left, tops.

'til then, the war machines need to grind on... if not to control the flow of oil and the money that dominates it, then it will at least ensure the war machines have fuel to run on.
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Absolutely I would be doing the same, I did it tougher than most I think, and I would be scrambling to get away.
But I would realise that where I go to, will eventually be bogged down with similar people, it just seems everyone is climbing onto the available lifeboat, eventually all the lifeboats sink from overloading.
 
sptrawler said:
Absolutely I would be doing the same, I did it tougher than most I think, and I would be scrambling to get away.
But I would realise that where I go to, will eventually be bogged down with similar people, it just seems everyone is climbing onto the available lifeboat, eventually all the lifeboats sink from overloading.
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Maybe they believe that once they got on a life boat and survived, they'll do great things, save the world, warn people, build a more peaceful world etc. to save all our skins?

Well, maybe. After welfare, freebies and maybe one generation. The second and third one will start to hate foreigners too. :D
 
luutzu said:
Maybe they believe that once they got on a life boat and survived, they'll do great things, save the world, warn people, build a more peaceful world etc. to save all our skins?

Well, maybe. After welfare, freebies and maybe one generation. The second and third one will start to hate foreigners too. :D
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Maybe the lifeboat, will become just like what they were fleeing from.
That is the more likely outcome.
Sad really
 
sptrawler said:
Maybe the lifeboat, will become just like what they were fleeing from.
That is the more likely outcome.
Sad really
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Not if they can help it.

Obviously there are a few, and a few is too many, exception. But imagine if you're fleeing from war, famine, dictators, typical a-holes... and not die but are given a second chance in life.

Most normal people would take that opportunity and make the most of it.

That and if you've been in those places... you're not going to complain about working two jobs, labouring like dogs, being exploited.. if it mean your kids can study, and live, in peace; you get to have some saving to send back home.

Not saying people should be exploited or work like dogs... you know what I mean.

That and if you look at where the money all goes, why a country decay and collapse... it's never because the poor have too much. And it's never because new immigrants who cannot speak the language somehow managed to get politicians to give them all the money.

Any money to the needy is very generous. But on the scale of things, it'd be like Turnbull holding a wad of cash and give the homeless guy $5. It's generous, but it's not going to mean he'll head back to Canberra, broke the national Treasury to end homelessness.
 
luutzu said:
Not if they can help it.

Obviously there are a few, and a few is too many, exception. But imagine if you're fleeing from war, famine, dictators, typical a-holes... and not die but are given a second chance in life.

Most normal people would take that opportunity and make the most of it.

That and if you've been in those places... you're not going to complain about working two jobs, labouring like dogs, being exploited.. if it mean your kids can study, and live, in peace; you get to have some saving to send back home.

Not saying people should be exploited or work like dogs... you know what I mean.

That and if you look at where the money all goes, why a country decay and collapse... it's never because the poor have too much. And it's never because new immigrants who cannot speak the language somehow managed to get politicians to give them all the money.

Any money to the needy is very generous. But on the scale of things, it'd be like Turnbull holding a wad of cash and give the homeless guy $5. It's generous, but it's not going to mean he'll head back to Canberra, broke the national Treasury to end homelessness.
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If that was all true, Melbourne wouldn't have the issues with the Somalia's.
I don't live there but even in Perth, we are having issues with African gangs, they caused a soccer club to lock tjemsethem in the clubrooms.
I know you must have an immigration assistance company running, but maybe you need to screen better. Lol
 
sptrawler said:
If that was all true, Melbourne wouldn't have the issues with the Somalia's.
I don't live there but even in Perth, we are having issues with African gangs, they caused a soccer club to lock tjemsethem in the clubrooms.
I know you must have an immigration assistance company running, but maybe you need to screen better. Lol
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I don't know if we have Afrikan gang problems any worse than other ethnic gangs, but I used to enjoy safely going to the Moorooka based Eritrean food kitchens a few years back until I moved to the Goldie.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/welcome-to-brisbanes-little-africa-20090420-absf.html
 
We have this problem because they just don't fit in with our society and culture, they have been dumped here by our idiot politicians and left to fend for themselves so when they are rejected here they rebel.
 
sptrawler said:
If that was all true, Melbourne wouldn't have the issues with the Somalia's.
I don't live there but even in Perth, we are having issues with African gangs, they caused a soccer club to lock tjemsethem in the clubrooms.
I know you must have an immigration assistance company running, but maybe you need to screen better. Lol
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Close but no cigars. Man, if you were to help welfare recipients and other parasites and also want to make money, working with new arrivals from poor countries ain't it.

Got to help capitalists. Those are the fat parasites with all the money :D

I don't have the figures but from experience, parents of new immigrants/refugees would also be trying to get away from gangs and other undesirables "among them". They're probably a whole lot tougher on the gangsters and drug pushers in their community than our Whitest of patriots. Something about giving the whole race a bad name and potentially recruiting their kids into it.

About ten years ago us kids thought to help our parents with a larger home. Bigger land for the bonsai and stuff.

I told my folks to go to Cabramatta. You can get a 1,800m2 block for around $550K. Flat, level, two or three blocks from the station. Right next to the shopping centres etc. etc.

Mum said wtf are you nuts. I spent my whole life trying to get us away from those druggos and you're telling me to go back down there again?

Yea, she can swear when she's upset enough. :D

Lucky for Dad who look into it. Was offering to buy a block but the agent said it's been listing for ages and no one's buying. So wait another week when it's off the market and might get a discount. There were two of them so what are the chances.

Anyway, Council pick both of it up and similar blocks nearby now goes for $1.6 to $1.8M.

Just to show you how old folks can be, and how after a couple decades, pieces of crap real estate will be extremely overpriced pieces of slightly more dense real estate.
 
ALAN Jones and his team have been ordered to pay a record $3.7 million in compensation for defaming a Queensland family by claiming they were responsible for 12 deaths in the 2011 Lockyer Valley floods.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...y/news-story/8996b512025f21501b5b391a80c9d81a

Needed one reason for a celebratory beer and this was it
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sptrawler said:
Would it be fair to say, the shock jock, got a shock. $3.7m has got to hurt.
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The Toowoomba mob aren't exactly beige people themselves. They operate quarries and "recycling" dumps. Recently they built a private airport (Wellcamp), did a sweet deal with Qantas, etc just in time for a mining turn down
 
Tisme said:
The Toowoomba mob aren't exactly beige people themselves. They operate quarries and "recycling" dumps. Recently they built a private airport (Wellcamp), did a sweet deal with Qantas, etc just in time for a mining turn down
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Maybe that just makes them smart business people ?
 
SirRumpole said:
Maybe that just makes them smart business people ?
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Well it does beggar the question why they would be concerned with the ramblings of nutter, especially as it's been an ongoing war for some time and they have managed to build and consolidate an empire in the face of it.

It's been my observation that once companies started focusing on hurt feelings they are either in strife or lost the zeal for growth and survival.

Meanwhile Jones gets publicity, will probably appeal and his supporters (LNP) turn the screws on the Walkers.
 
Tisme said:
Well it does beggar the question why they would be concerned with the ramblings of nutter, especially as it's been an ongoing war for some time and they have managed to build and consolidate an empire in the face of it.
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Jones is a dangerous nutter because he has a public audience and there needs to be at least a few grains of truth in what he says otherwise he could get away with accusing anyone of anything he likes.

He overstepped the mark and needed to be bought back in line with public expectations of allegations supported by evidence, of which he had none.
 
That's good news noirua, I hope it leads to a building of trust and a united Country, a lot of energy and productivity is lost in the pursuit of false goals.
 

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