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noco said:
Julian Assange believes there is more than one way ti skin a cat.

I wish him success and I am sure there are a lot of Australians who think alike.
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Can he really elude his present situation so easily? Anyone with some understanding in this area?
I surely wouldn't be voting for him for any position of responsibility in Australia, the Senate very much included.
 
Julia said:
Can he really elude his present situation so easily? Anyone with some understanding in this area?
I surely wouldn't be voting for him for any position of responsibility in Australia, the Senate very much included.
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I would say he is a damned side more intelligent and smarter than 90% who are currnetly holding a senate ticket.

He appears to have planned his escape from the UK with precision and has a lot of backers in Australia.

Don't underestimate Julian Assage's capability
 
Assange is a career fugitive, his future lies in deep interviews, writing books and running and hiding.
 
Macquack said:
I have something to agree with you noco.:xyxthumbs
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I would say he is a damned side more intelligent and smarter than 90% who are currently holding a senate ticket.
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Naturally, I strongly object to the cat-skinning reference. Yikes and :eek:
But in every other regard, I totally agree.
This is one of those extremely rare occasions where I come close to regretting that I'm not a Victorian.:2twocents
 
Macquack said:
I have something to agree with you noco.:xyxthumbs
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Julian has lost the plot. He is too full of his own self importance. However promising and refreshing he was when he burst onto the scene, he now believes he is above the law. And apparently he has started talking in the 3rd person when referring to himself.

Duckman
 
noco said:
I would say he is a damned side more intelligent and smarter than 90% who are currnetly holding a senate ticket.
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That is probably not hard.

He appears to have planned his escape from the UK with precision and has a lot of backers in Australia.

Don't underestimate Julian Assage's capability
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I don't underestimate either his intelligence or his ingenuity. I question his fundamental motives. Duckman's post below appropriately describes these.

Duckman#72 said:
Julian has lost the plot. He is too full of his own self importance. However promising and refreshing he was when he burst onto the scene, he now believes he is above the law. And apparently he has started talking in the 3rd person when referring to himself.

Duckman
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noco said:
The marriage between the Greens and the Labor Party has ended in divorce as of today.
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They are probably afraid of some of the poll results painting them with the same brush. I can't see them voting with the opposition on the floor though.

Cheers
Country Lad
 
noco said:
The marriage between the Greens and the Labor Party has ended in divorce as of today.
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Can you elaborate on this? In "The World Today" I heard Christine Milne lamenting Labor's lack of green values or something but then she went on to say the Greens would continue to support the government in supply etc. There must be something I've missed.
 
Thanks, Burnsie. I don't see that anything will actually change and agree with Country Lad that it's a gesture by Milne in an attempt to distance the Greens from the current polls on Labor.

Ms Milne does make some good points, eg
"We risk farmers being driven from their land by mining companies, without any resistance from the Parliament."

She has questioned how Ms Gillard and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott can voice support for Australia becoming a "food bowl", but at the same time support coal seam gas mining projects on agricultural land.
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Julia said:
Thanks, Burnsie. I don't see that anything will actually change and agree with Country Lad that it's a gesture by Milne in an attempt to distance the Greens from the current polls on Labor.

Ms Milne does make some good points, eg
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Yes Julia you're right, she is no longer aligned with Labor but wont de stabilise the Govt :D it's true now a day doesnt go by without things getting worse for Gillard.
Labor Govt's so often end in high drama.
 
Julia said:
Thanks, Burnsie. I don't see that anything will actually change and agree with Country Lad that it's a gesture by Milne in an attempt to distance the Greens from the current polls on Labor.

Ms Milne does make some good points, eg
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That's what I thought. If they continue to support the government on no confidence and supply bills then this is just maintaining the status quo, unless I missed something.
 
McLovin said:
That's what I thought. If they continue to support the government on no confidence and supply bills then this is just maintaining the status quo, unless I missed something.
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No she said quite clearly that while she rejects Labor she wont support Abbott.
 
Seems that Greet Wilders made it to our shores.

Protesters call Dutch MP Geert Wilders a racist as he calls for end to mass migration from Islamic countries

PROTESTERS have pushed people to the ground as they tried to stop a Melbourne speech by controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders.

A group of about 40 protesters blocked the gate leading into the Somerton function centre and were seen physically stopping people from entering, even pushing some people to the ground, as they chanted.

A large number of police, including mounted police, were on scene but have made no attempts to move them on.

Mr Wilders is due to give a speech at the venue as the first part of his Australian tour.

The right-wing MP wants a ban on Islamic immigration and says the religion is incompatible with freedom, but he insists he's not trying to incite violence or insult people during his Australian visit.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/protesters-call-dutch-mp-geert-wilders-a-racist-as-he-calls-for-end-to-mass-migration-from-islamic-countries/story-e6frf7kx-1226581059821
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DB008 said:
Seems that Greet Wilders made it to our shores.
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Once again the misused term "racist" is rolled out by the ignorant to brand someone as a race hater when he is expressing a view about a religion. Since when are race and religion synonymous terms?

While most religions are poisonous, faith based nonsense they are not equal in terms of their threat to modern society. Islam has become the most dangerous religious dogma confronting civil society and rightly regarded as a threat.

As for Wilders, whatever his other political views may be, I find common ground with him on the issue of Islamism and its ultimate aims. When Wilders says things like "Islam is a fascist ideology and the prophet Mohammed a pedophile and murderer" and "Islam is totalitarianism ... Islam and freedom are incompatible," it my sound overly confrontational and intolerant but it's also inconveniently true. It's naive in the extreme to think of Islam as just another benign religious creed. Far from it.
 
DB008 said:
Seems that Greet Wilders made it to our shores.
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Saw this on the news. If protesters want to protest - fine, but blocking the entrance and pushing people to the ground is not on.

Anybody else see the item on "7.30" last night? It left me gobsmacked. Protester saying what Gilders is saying is hate speech not free speech. Hello? Have you seen what some muslims leaders have said about infidels needing to be beheaded? Have you heard what they have said they will do to Wilders? Has Wilders ever said he wants to kill muslims? I don't believe he has. Others were making placards saying 'Australia welcomes muslims not racists', OK so what about muslims that are racists? Never heard Gilders say anything racist in any case. Then they went on and on about how secretive the Q Society is who are hosting Gilders visit despite the fact that they had someone on the show prepared to talk about the society and be named and identified, yet they had an unidentified muslim (voice disguised, silouette) making accusations against the society? Now who is being secretive? :rolleyes:

I don't know all Wilders views on everything but from what I have heard him say so far I can't find anything to disagree with him on as yet.
 

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