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Sigmund Freud's grandson's painting's questionable value.

Someone must be bloody rich is all I can say.

PS that thing she's lying on - is that what they call a "Casting Couch"? :eek3:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/14/2244978.htm?section=justin

Freud nude sells for new world record at auction
Posted 45 minutes ago

Benefits Supervisor Sleeping, a nude by British artist Lucian Freud, has sold for more than $US34 million ($A36.4 million) in New York, becoming the most expensive work ever by a living artist.

The Christie's sale busted the record held by Hanging Heart, by American artist Jef Koons, which fetched $US23.4 million at Sotheby's in New York late last year.

The 1995 oil painting of a corpulent woman curled naked and sleeping on a sofa was touted ahead of time as the headliner for Christie's Post-War and Contemporary Art sales.

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Freud, the 85-year-old grandson of pioneering psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, was born in Berlin but his family fled Germany as the Nazis rose to power and he became a British citizen.
 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1957338/Francis-Bacon-'masterpiece'-sells-for-andpound43m.html

"famous Irish born British artist Francis Bacon , born - Dublin, Ireland - 28th of October, 1928 / Died - 28th of April, 1992."

A ‘masterpiece’ by Francis Bacon has sold for £43m at Sotheby’s New York, breaking the record for a work by the artist.

Triptych draws on Greek drama
Triptych, 1976, sold for $86.3m, beating the previous highest price for a Bacon work, the $52.7m (£27m) paid for Study For Innocent X.

The sale was part of the most lucrative night in Sotheby’s nearly 300-year history, as it took $362m (£186m) including commission.
 

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Just listening to ABC 's Kel Richards interviewing Rod Pattenden (I believe) - asking him about controversial painter, Adam Cullen. -(and his painting shown below).

"And how do you describe his work?"
"Well he is the best Adam Cullen out there. - unique style etc" :)

(I was reminded of that thought for the day , "Be yourself, everybody elase is taken" ) :2twocents

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/06/2325790.htm
Blake judge quits in protest over painting
Posted 7 hours 22 minutes ago
Updated 6 hours 58 minutes ago

Australia's top prize for religious art is again embroiled in controversy after its judges fell out over the inclusion of a work by controversial artist Adam Cullen.

Sydney academic Dr Christopher Allen has resigned from the Blake Art Prize judging panel in protest over Cullen's work being included on the shortlist.

The canvas shows Jesus Christ on the cross with the inscription "only women bleed".

The chairman of the Blake Art Prize, Reverend Rod Pattenden, says he and the other two judges - artist Lachlan Warner and religious scholar Kathleen McPhillips - respect Dr Allen's decision.. etc
 

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hi all,

it's hard, but it can be done.

i have a few friends that are artists, and one i'm thinking of in particular is an "unknown" and has no trouble exhibiting her work and she sells too. another guy i know does likewise. it helps to be an art teacher as well.

it's mostly the quick art, the art that shocks and confronts - even if it's not terribly well executed - that garners the attention.

as a "struggling artist" myself, i've long since given up the dream of making a living from my art and being the pragmatist, am learning the ropes as an eod trader.
 
i went to art school and made a lot of art I guess which just sits around the house. I have never sold any nor even attempted to sell. I made it all because I wanted to do it not because i wanted to make money from it.
 
Always loved the surrealist work of Salvador Dali

Plenty more here fimmwolf ;) You're right they are brilliant. And how else could we access them if it wasn't for the internet !! - HOW GOOD is the INTERNET !! :D

Tribute to Salvador Dali

Surrealism and Rene Magritte

'millions' more here:-
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Salvador+Dali&search_type=&aq=f

PS I'm thinking that that sculture I posted a couple back might be titled ... maybe
"Tarzan vs the anaconda, round 8".
 

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Art is subjective. Endless questions. Constantly Evolving. Wonderfully Provocative.

I have sold works, some in the thousands, however, I love oil paint and glazing. When the process of these layers is complete and it can take months to dry - I don't use accelerants. Then you deduct the materials, associated expenses, tax (If though a gallery you can be certain they will take 30 - 50% commission off the price immediately). I divide the money left by hours and it can work out at $12 - $18 per hour. So it is a hobby but I love it so much I will keep going.

I love work that the mainstream find pretty challenging visually. Robert Mapplethorpe is brilliant in Black and White photography – bizarre life but that was his stimulus and impetus. I saw an exhibition of his in New York Guggenheim Museum – Brilliant!!. The effect was interesting on my friends who came with me, one was in the US Army Rangers. He point blank refused to look at the work. I wonder if homophobia was the problem – probably coming from a macho career to fully exposed male nudes

Lindsay Norman a famous Australian etching artist was damned at his time when in this day and age it is tame.

I think to be an artist and find the creative spirit you tend to be a unique in your thinking and lifestyle. I find social standards of acceptance restrictive I am glad in Australia we have the ability to be ourselves.

2020 you may like Jeffrey Smart. He is in his 80’s now and I had the pleasure of seeing his latest exhibition. His work sells for the $600,000 range. The NSW Art Gallery has some of his work. He had to go abroad in his early years to be acknowledged, very sad.

Have a look at Chuck Close’s work again it is confronting but a master of paint.

You would appreciate Cherry Hood. A water colourist on a grand scale with subjective matter of street kids beautifully presented. She has had an enormous impact on high school art. The Art Expression winner of 2007 was a young girl emulating her work.

I can see why you question the value of Lucien Freud’s work, in the context of art history he was at the peak of his era. Larger models are fascinating to depict have a look at Jenny Saville. She does a lot of her own sittings.

To follow the development of an artist, through their exposure to personal experience, social pressure, ageing and challenging events develops their work to new levels.

I don’t particularly find Cullen’s work inspiring but that is his stye and I respect him for that.
 
.. I have sold works, some in the thousands, however, I love oil paint and glazing.
hi green
some in the $000's - wow brilliant .. !
Here are a couple of photos I took in Rijks (I think) a long time ago.

The Cheat, (note where he keeps his "spare ace of diamonds" lol

and The Skull (pregnant lady with skull on her lap).

Georges de La Tour I think.. :2twocents (although I had to google that lol)
 

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green
thousands of religious paintings in those European museums of course ... seen one seen em all ;) - although this one by Caravaggio was "different".

By contrast, when I was in the Army, one of the soldiers was an artist - I bought one of his paintings for $50 as I recall (refer attached) - took him about 1 hour to do lol - mixed up a bit of spackle, splashed it around with a paintscraper/spatula (with very deep relief) , painted it with a spray can held to one side so that the ridges and valleys became evident - and ended up with a scene like this ;) - he was bludy brilliant. :2twocents
 

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2020 glad to see your research.

Have a look at Artemisia Gentileschi a woman before her time. Taught by her father Orazio, raped by his best friend, married off and finally acknowledged by the English.

Her work is beautiful and not well known the aggression she takes in some paintings is reflective of what she was going through.

Not all past paintings are the same. They might seem the same on appearance though when you study pigment development, canvas, brushes, supportive mediums each artist is unique.

The Gentileschi's were linked to Caravaggio (he was a homosexual a common enough social acceptance at the time).
 
2020 glad to see your research.

Have a look at Artemisia Gentileschi a woman before her time. Taught by her father Orazio, raped by his best friend, married off and finally acknowledged by the English.

Her work is beautiful and not well known the aggression she takes in some paintings is reflective of what she was going through.
o boy - ... Maybe hang these two side by side on the wall of some barber shop, lol :eek:

"shave sir ?"

"you part your head - I mean your hair - on the left or right? sir"
 

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....

Kandinsky (meaningless colours)
Picasso
Temple of the Virgins

of these I suspect most doctors' waiting rooms would go for the Kandinsky ;)
 

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With apologies for bringing the debate into the present, I'd be interested in any comments about the primary school Principal who allowed Bill Henson to trawl her students for potential photographic subjects.

The parents were not asked for their permission.

Whilst I admire Henson's work, and have no problem with individual families participating in it, I think this is completely unacceptable. Almost borders on procurement on the part of the Principal who has surely breached her position of trust.
 
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