Are wine buffs wankers?

[poverty]

As the manager of a bottleshop in a very low socio-economic area I would have to agree that goon wins hands down. The only question that baffles the experts, do you want the sunnyvale, the coolabah or the golden oak??

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

As the manager of a bottleshop in a very low socio-economic area I would have to agree that goon wins hands down. The only question that baffles the experts, do you want the sunnyvale, the coolabah or the golden oak??

At last an expert, not a buff.

Perhaps we should run a blind tasting, or a tasting, blind.

gg

 

[trainspotter]

It could be contrived from povertys epiphany that the bias for goon is based upon their economic status.

I have proffered my services to no avail. I will sit quietly in the corner and sulk with my 2005 Jackamans Langmeil Cab Sav.

 

[nulla nulla]

My Barwang 2007 Shiraz was a little raw on opening but opened up nicely with a little breathing time. Only problem is....the bottle is now empty.

 

[trainspotter]

My Barwang 2007 Shiraz was a little raw on opening but opened up nicely with a little breathing time. Only problem is....the bottle is now empty.

Go for another and decant it brother! SMOOOOOOOOOOOTH as silk ! Don't forget to use an aerator when you pour.

 

[Julia]

As the manager of a bottleshop in a very low socio-economic area I would have to agree that goon wins hands down. The only question that baffles the experts, do you want the sunnyvale, the coolabah or the golden oak??

Poverty, what's your view about the suggestion there should be a floor price for alcohol such as is about to be introduced in the Northern Territory where I understand cask wine has been removed from retail shelves and clean skins will retail at more than $9 per bottle?

We are told the reason for this addition to the nanny state dictates is because many alcoholics choose cask wine on the basis that it's the cheapest % alcohol by volume available.
In reality, if cheap wine is not available, they will quite likely switch to metho or something similar.

Yet another example of a blanket rule for everyone to make some inconsequential gesture toward controlling the behaviour of addicts.

I know there are many people on low incomes who are able to enjoy a glass of cask wine (without being in the slightest at risk of quaffing the lot) because it's pretty cheap, but if it were - as has been suggested - to triple in price, their budget wouldn't allow it.

Interested in what you think the effect of such an extension of the nanny state to the whole country would be in terms of your sales.

 

[poverty]

Poverty, what's your view about the suggestion there should be a floor price for alcohol such as is about to be introduced in the Northern Territory where I understand cask wine has been removed from retail shelves and clean skins will retail at more than $9 per bottle?

Julia this proposal is quite amazing in that it's essentially aimed at the poor, or at least at those who like to keep their drinking budget low, while the wine-buffs and beer-drinking aussie heros supposedly won't be affected.

We are told the reason for this addition to the nanny state dictates is because many alcoholics choose cask wine on the basis that it's the cheapest % alcohol by volume available.
In reality, if cheap wine is not available, they will quite likely switch to metho or something similar.

I certainly agree that many alcoholics do choose cask wine and it can be quite destructive, but it's also enjoyed by many who drink in moderation. Pensioners seem particularly fond of the stuff so I can't imagine the floor-price being much a vote winner in those circles.

Ironally a floor tax will have the opposite effect of the alcopops tax and even things back out quite a bit, instead of the goon-bag the teenagers will go back to a slab of cruisers or a bottle of spirits + a 2L coke because the price differential will no longer be as large.

I know there are many people on low incomes who are able to enjoy a glass of cask wine (without being in the slightest at risk of quaffing the lot) because it's pretty cheap, but if it were - as has been suggested - to triple in price, their budget wouldn't allow it.

Interested in what you think the effect of such an extension of the nanny state to the whole country would be in terms of your sales.

This is pure guesswork but here goes:

-Sales would likely fall a bit but not by much. Problem drinkers would still drink but they might have to give up some non-essentials such as toilet paper and food. Most sales lost would be responsible drinkers who simply decide it's no longer worth the expense and drink a lot less. Beer and Spirits sales would go back up, especially cheap beer as it would presumably be right at the floor price, good news for FGL holders A cask-drinker would have 2 choices, either tradeup their tastes and swallow the extra cost of drinking (and have the option of switching to beer) or reduce their intake.

-Gross Profit might improve as the products with great bang-for-your-back for the customer are removed a lot would inadvertantly end up buying poor-value products like premixed 6packs for $20+, a lot of my customers come into the store with the last $10 or $20 they have in the whole world, they've already determined they're going to drink that money before they even see the prices.

-Theft would increase. Some people really don't like to go without. With alcohol taxes indexed to CPI and increasing twice a year as it is, drinking is getting more and more expensive as it is for the average welfare recipient. You just can't drink like a king on the dole like you could 10 years ago and it's only going to get harder, but these people have grown up doing it, the welfare state has enabled them, but now it's threatening to take it all away?? Poor blighters don't even realise it's happening either.

- I really need a new job.

 

[trainspotter]

Oyster Bay Sauvignon Blanc is taking a hit for the team again. Chilled to perfection out of a very large DAMPIERRE cristal d'arques ..... Magnifique' !

 

[nulla nulla]

Tonights choice is a Penfolds Bin 389 Cabernet Shiraz 1998. Accompanying a dinner of Rib Eye Roast (from Woolworths 1.4kgs) cooked on the weber for 45 minutes then allowed to rest for 10 minutes under foil and cloth (well done on the outside but tending to rare in the middle). Very tasty.

Passed a personal milestone today on the market and good reason to kick back and enjoy life a little.

 

[springhill]

Langmeil 'Hanging Snakes' 2008 Shiraz.

95% Shiraz, 5% Viognier.

Still a little young, but very easy drinking.

For those that love a sweet white, i'd suggest the Langmeil 'Live Wire' Riesling, magnifico!

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Tonights choice is a Penfolds Bin 389 Cabernet Shiraz 1998. Accompanying a dinner of Rib Eye Roast (from Woolworths 1.4kgs) cooked on the weber for 45 minutes then allowed to rest for 10 minutes under foil and cloth (well done on the outside but tending to rare in the middle). Very tasty.

Passed a personal milestone today on the market and good reason to kick back and enjoy life a little.

I am so pleased for you nulla, passing your milestone.

Did you have a smoke afterward, with your mate Lex Ettz, that well known vigneron

I always have a smoke with pie and peas and goon.

I am tucking in to a Morris Dry Red 4l Cask. It is a smooth, well rounded dry red with generous fruit flavour and length. A more than acceptable cask wine.

And I'll still be going for $11.99 when you are on to your 5th bottle of PB389CS1998.

gg

 

[nulla nulla]

I am so pleased for you nulla, passing your milestone.

Did you have a smoke afterward, with your mate Lex Ettz, that well known vigneron

Nah mate, gave up smoking over 25 years ago.

I always have a smoke with pie and peas and goon.

I am tucking in to a Morris Dry Red 4l Cask. It is a smooth, well rounded dry red with generous fruit flavour and length. A more than acceptable cask wine.

And I'll still be going for $11.99 when you are on to your 5th bottle of PB389CS1998.

gg

After tonights bottle, I only have one left, which I will try to hide away for another 2-3 years. I don't mind the Morris Dry Red but it doesn't seem to improve with time. Yeah I know, you just get a fresh one.

 

[nulla nulla]

Tonights drop with roast chicken (on the weber) is a bottle of Wynns Coonawarra Estate "Micheal" Shiraz 2003 (decanted and allowed to breath for 40 minutes). Succulent is the only way to describe it and I have two more on the wine rack.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Tonights drop with roast chicken (on the weber) is a bottle of Wynns Coonawarra Estate "Micheal" Shiraz 2003 (decanted and allowed to breath for 40 minutes). Succulent is the only way to describe it and I have two more on the wine rack.

At Casa Gumnut we have a full complement of family for spaghetti bolognese and are tucking in to a Coolabah Lambrusco Red, and at $9 a cask is good value.

It is juicy, ripe , a hint of plums and blackberries with a structured palate.

I tried to let it breathe for a few minutes but I got short of breath and took the initiative.

gg

 

[trainspotter]

At Casa Gumnut we have a full complement of family for spaghetti bolognese and are tucking in to a Coolabah Lambrusco Red, and at $9 a cask is good value.

It is juicy, ripe , a hint of plums and blackberries with a structured palate.

I tried to let it breathe for a few minutes but I got short of breath and took the initiative.

gg

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ! Only us wine buffs can do that !!!!!! Cardboard Chateau dont count ! LOLOL ...... enjoy GG. I am sure the next day it wont tatse the same !

 

[simplewealthguy]

I love a cheeky cab sav or shiraz to mull over and appreciate over a hearty winter meal. . . . i also love a cheap and nasty chardy to guzzle with a few mates and laugh until i fall over. Makes me a part time wanker i think.
PS i do more guzzling than mulling.

 

[nulla nulla]

Yesterdays drop was a James Hardy Cabernet Savignon 2001, Fathers day lunch with beef wellington, scalloped potatoes and greens.

 

[nulla nulla]

Tonights choice is a Penfolds Bin 389 Cabernet Shiraz 1998. Accompanying a dinner of Rib Eye Roast (from Woolworths 1.4kgs) cooked on the weber for 45 minutes then allowed to rest for 10 minutes under foil and cloth (well done on the outside but tending to rare in the middle). Very tasty.

Passed a personal milestone today on the market and good reason to kick back and enjoy life a little.

After the ups and downs of the market since the linked post (Early July 2011), it is pleasing to be able to say that another (positive) milestone was passed today. Even more so when you consider the comparitive level of the xao. Quiet celebration with a $8.50 bottle of Penfolds Koonunga Hill Shiraz 1997 to wash down a feed at the local Thai Restaurant.

 

[nulla nulla]

8th of July 2011, 7 October 2011 and 02 December 2011. Milestones reached and passed.

Celebrations tonight will be Roast Leg of Lamb (was on special at Woolworths, gotta get my maximum value out of that stock) roast veg and greens, washing it all down with a Wynns Coonawarra Estate "John Riddoch" Cabernet Savignon 1998.

 

[sptrawler]

8th of July 2011, 7 October 2011 and 02 December 2011. Milestones reached and passed.

Celebrations tonight will be Roast Leg of Lamb (was on special at Woolworths, gotta get my maximum value out of that stock) roast veg and greens, washing it all down with a Wynns Coonawarra Estate "John Riddoch" Cabernet Savignon 1998.

I rushed down to Woolies, wine 25% off, problem was it now came in at the same price as choice 1. Talk about disappointed I mumbled under my breath all the way home.